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Druid,

I vaguely remember Sargel18 and those photos he took at that spot in New Jersey. Lots of orbs and stuff in the photos, right?  I wish I remembered seeing the dragon photo of his, but I donít. That would have been cool!  Very often I find that there is a TON of different, often conflicting, energy going on in a particular ìhot spot."

So you can have negative stuff hanging out there as well as good stuff, and it can be complicated sorting through it all. But basically any healing you can do on the ley lines, drumming to clear out the negative critters, or prayer, invocation, and the like, will gradually shift the orientation of those areas more towards loving ìgood" energies. And then you can begin to sift through whatís left and learn about the different energies/entities remaining. Dragons DO have a way of always being in the center of the action, though!

Lala,

Iím so glad that youíve been able to discover entity clearing/spirit release therapy, because when you get to the point where youíre experiencing severe psychic attack like you described having, you REALLY need to do that type of work ASAP.  Because severe psychic attack will tend to warp your mind and energy and emotions to such an extent that you really arenít functional anymore, and then if you go to doctors, they put you on meds and it just gets worse.  If youíve never found it, please try to find Remarkable Healings by Shakuntala Modi.  Sheís a psychiatrist who discovered that spirit attachments are the cure not just for mental illness but also all forms of physical disease. And sheís right!  I used her techniques (adapted them and adding in some pranic/color healing and shamanic healing) to heal myself of a serious heart condition and return to a life of no pain and no illness.  And the same techniques will cure anything from lower level stuff like fatigue, depression, lack of focus, to major psychosis and schizophrenia. 

Key thing, though ñ the patient has to give their CONSCIOUS PERMISSION to receive healing. Very important point!  Many people NEED their illness, believe it or not, and will subconsciously fight you if you just try to wave your magic wand and cure them. Iíve learned that the hard way! 

Lono,

What a beautiful dragon! 

Years ago when I was first learning how to shamanically journey and talk to the dragons, I remember expressing fascination with how so many of them can fly.  The next night I was gifted with the most lovely dream that wasnít a dream.  I was flying on the back of a pink dragon!  Yes, a pink dragon!  Beautiful, loving energy was being conveyed by this dragon, and it was a rosy pink, and I just held on as we flew over a lovely natural landscape in the dream. It was one of those rare, breathtaking moments where your heart just lifts in this ecstatic way, and you never forget the experience. Your flying dragon made me think of that!

About the tattoo ñ just remember to keep it energetically clean and to also do other things to strengthen your aura, and you should be fine.  Tattoos are more of a problem for people who have tons of them ñ I hope you donít have lots!

Zenden,

Yes, Michael the archangel who is the KICK BUTT spiritual warrior angel (I work with him a lot,) is often pictured with the dragon. And I think rather than to ascribe a sinister interpretation to that (with David Icke and his view of ALL reptilians as being bad,) I see it as how the angelic kingdom (which is non-physical) is teaming up with the healing, transformative, and grounding energies of dragons here on Earth to give humans tools for their own spiritual illumination and healing.  So by combining energies from the upper worlds ñ the angelic realms ñ and the lower realms (the deeper, grounded Earth energies) I think we have powerful tools for our well-being.

I hadnít thought about Filgramathea sounding Celtic, but youíre right, it does! Very possible that there are connections with the Grail and the Arthurian legends and deeper ancient stuff.  I know an amazing Irishman who is a Celtic shaman, and itís fascinating to see how the Native American shamanic traditions and the Celtic traditions dovetail and how they each have this intimate, exhaustive knowledge of the different dimensional realities and the denizens therein. They make clear distinctions between the negative ETís, the demons, and other negative species vs. beings who MIGHT choose to help you if you treat them with loving respect ñ like the dragons, the Earth devas/elementals, and so forth. 

These shamans seem to carry the only real ìmap" that corresponds with the diverse, wild stuff Iíve experienced.  Itís like they carry a road map thatís very important and that needs to be revisited. And itís not something they share with many people who donít practice shamanic healing. So Iíve been blessed to learn a lot from these guys and their years of work in the ìfieldí as healers while also comparing that with my own, independently determined, research and experiences.

If it makes sense and has validity, it should all fit together somehow, shouldnít it? So it's good to put these pieces together as best we can to try to find coherent pictures of reality.

And I will have to take some time to look over the link youíve included, thanks for posting it!

SiriArc wrote:

An Aspect Of The Dragon Magick  Is The Ability To Phase Shift Through Dimensions / Densities / Times.......

SiriArc wrote:

>2nd one depicts a Red And Green Dragon Atop, And Entwining, A Gemmed Chalice [Title: ëChalice Of Dragonsë] - The Green One Holds ITís Hand Over The Red Ones Heart. [Personal Interpretation]:

The Physical (Chalice) Contains The Soul / Empathy

And Is The Means to Heal Ancient Energies, Both Future And Past, Simultaneously.

I think you're onto something here, SiriArc.

Dragon magic is real.  You can work with the dragons in creative partnership to manifest many different things.  My problem is that sometimes in the conventional Borders bookstore types of magic books is that they make it sound like you should just dial up all these different entities - elementals, dragons, etc. - and demand that they bring you a boyfriend or whatever. And I've known WAY too many dimestore witches (both male and female) who never reach the idea that magic is part of the SPIRITUAL path.

We're all meant to be creating our reality, day in and day out, with the tools that live within our hearts and minds.  And in doing this, we can collaborate with many amazing intelligences and energies from different parts of creation. Power prayer or white magic should be as natural to us as breathing.

But in the short term, people get into the idea of selfish gain. Hey, there's nothing wrong with using magic to manifest money, a good relationship, health, etc.  Because we're actually doing this all the time through our thoughts and intentions. A magical ritual just "formalizes" the process and makes it more real to the conscious mind. That's it's only purpose.

But wouldn't it be nice to engage in magical creation on behalf of larger, bolder projects? Using our creative energies to manifest peace, loving vibrations, and vitality for all?  I think that's the "Great work" that we're all supposed to be engaged in.

So unfortunately when people talk about dragon magic it too often gets into the D&D roleplaying approach which, like you said in talking about your friend's sword and sorcery books, is all about killing or conquering and just getting what you want. Yes, dragons will work with you on that. (Black dragon in particular is a fine fellow for helping you with that.  He's good at helping you crush your enemies. Of course, he's demonic and evil, but oh well, those little details! smile

I've collaborated with three different dragons on many projects but haven't been so engaged with them in recent years.  My red dragon guide is a great partner in healing, in creative discovery, and yes, in manifesting cash. But I don't like to "use" him in that way because I try to come at magical and spiritual practice from the viewpoint of mutual respect instead of "usury."

The shamanic and indigenous peoples stress the importance of equality, balance, barter, and mutual respect.

You make allies by sharing something of YOURS to receive something of THEIRS.

I never work with my red dragon ally on anything unless I first ask him what I can do for HIM to make the partnership correct for him. Often, he asks for simple things. Do you know that dragons ALL love music?  Play some music and try meditating on dragon, and you'll feel the dragon energy come through clearly and strongly.  My dragon loves certain types of jazz music, so I will often play that for him for long periods, and that is all he asks for!  I also do things like make offerings out on the land of sacred herbs or crystals that have been charged with loving intent, or sometimes will do healing to clear out negativity from a particular area, that type of thing.

The power of PARTNERSHIP is incredibly important in all matters metaphysical and magical.

We've gotten away from giving in this culture. We expect our spiritual teachers to give, give, give, and to somehow not have physical needs for shelter, clothing, or tax payments! smile  And no, buying a spiritual teacher's book isn't enough, because if you're like David Icke publishing this series of massive books at a huge expense and then paying loads to get them into national distribution, you're not even going to be earning a dollar a book.  So people have this ill-conceived notion about how metaphysical types are making a lot of money from books. Unless they have another, separate business (like running a foundation or doing workshops or selling audio and video, which can sometimes provide, like $2 an item profit vs. $1,) there really is no money happening in their lives.

I mention this because I've struggled myself with the monetary issues around trying to bring spiritual ideas out in books, etc, and the equation just never adds up for me financinally.  Also, I have had to examine these things within me -  times when I have caught myself expecting to get something for nothing, which happens when you study "magic" as it's currently become taught in books and so forth.  No! 

GIVE FIRST.

GET LATER.

Tithing is all about giving something from the heart so that you open up your aura to receive.  But if both sides of the equation aren't engaged, and energy isn't flowing back to you, it doesn't work, and there will always be energy drain happening somewhere.  I look at people like Icke and Stuart Wilde and also many others out there, and people get angry when they charge hundreds or thousands of dollars for a workshop. But they don't take into account the thousands of dollars the person spent GETTING to the event, reserving room in their schedule when they could have been doing other things, and also the massive costs for renting a space, hiring staff to handle managing things, etc. 

Unless you're Wayne Dyer, who earns at least $25,000 per speaking engagement (but who also splits a huge percentage of that with his speaker's bureau who acts as his "agent,") ...and who makes a bunch of speeches a year at these rates.....you're not making any money as a public spiritual person. Period.

So there is a REASON why most of the "real" teachers work underground, few people know about them, and they don't share their info with many people. 

Okay, pardon the rant at the end!  I just don't like it when people get into studying magic and start conjuring up dragons or whatever to "do their bidding," which is the black magic path, and they don't understand the older way of mutual exchange, which always ensures the best results for all parties.  There really is a difference!

That said, go talk with the dragons! Play some joyful music and invite them over!  Seriously, as long as you put up a shield where you set a vibrational barrier of love, nothing bad will enter in.  And dragons are cool and they are creatures of love and fun.

I'm sending everyone who reads this thread big, happy, loving dragon hugs smile

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

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Here's the page where you will find the dragon picture took by Sargel18.
http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com/endor2.html

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LipstickMystic wrote:

About the tattoo – just remember to keep it energetically clean and to also do other things to strengthen your aura, and you should be fine.  Tattoos are more of a problem for people who have tons of them – I hope you don’t have lots!

I have just the one, and don't plan on getting any more!  When I got this tattoo, it wasn't like, "Cool, I think I'll get a tattoo."  It was more like a sacrament, if that makes sense.  At the time, I didn't know the fairy realms were real, or that dragons really existed, or that there were negative beings out to get me.   I thought the dragon in captivity had something to do with me that I couldn't see.  It probably does in some aspect, but I think it may have been a call for help.  For some reason, I felt that getting this tattoo would help free the dragon.  Maybe it did, or maybe that's just wishful thinking.  But it was my intention.

PS-- I've since found out that iron is the enemy of the elementals.  Perhaps this is why this dragon was kept in an iron collar.  I also got the feeling that whoever had captured him was stealing his power to use for their own nefarious purposes.

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This may be old news but fits the topic at hand.

http://en.epochtimes.com/news/5-8-7/31030.html

Also, not intended to start a debate over authenticity.

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here u go Lono--"In all the Celtic folklore when they talk about 'fairies,' which are obviously other density beings very similar to our modern 'Gray alien,' ....but the important part here, as we know dragons are from a 3.5 -4.0 density, with the elven, and fairies....."these fairy/aliens insist that no iron come near them in any way. It was also said that bringing iron into contact with someone thought to be a 'changeling' would prove whether or not they were because if they were, they would disappear instantly."  ur instincts are right-on.

"Also, the instructions for the building of the Temple of Solomon included restrictions on the use of iron in either the preparation of the materials or the putting together of the building itself, even down to the rejection of the use of iron nails in any part." hmmmmm so iron interfers with?  powers?  intuition, the forces of ?

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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Lipstick Mystic wrote:

My problem is that sometimes in the conventional Borders bookstore types of magic books is that they make it sound like you should just dial up all these different entities - elementals, dragons, etc. - and demand that they bring you a boyfriend or whatever. And I've known WAY too many dimestore witches (both male and female) who never reach the idea that magic is part of the SPIRITUAL path.

Oh, that is the old fashioned way, now they are selling occult-use radionics machines that literally dial up spirits and so forth, they have the instructions on e-bay and the like. -lala

I happened to come across a book about negative entities by Samuel Sagan who does that ISIS technique clearing; this was before I got cleared, it is one of the things that led me to seek clearing, most of the people I knew thought that I should go to a therapist and get anti-depressants or therapy. I've had lots of therapy in my life and have been a therapist (stopped because of how drugged everyone was by psychiatry) so I knew that was not the answer. Now I am totally into studying about psychic hygiene and the like. I think if one is clear the perceptual information that you can get to discern between toxic reptile energy and positive life-enhancing dragon energy will be available, it's a matter of getting that clarity and maintaining it. -lala

don't judge a book by its name

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Iron can be magnetized. That's the key I think.
No iron in the Temple because it repels etheric beings and their organic lifeforce.

Think about how iron is ubiquitous in cities today, and how fairies and elementals have been somewhat 'deported' away from cities.

The Temple is supposed to be in the holy shape of the archetype of Man, God's dwelling place, just like the Ark was in between Atlantis and post-atlantis era.

It's a different type of elementals we find around iron: a type that is akin to magnetism, and machines... ahrimanic kind. And it also gives its iron force to michael in his fight against the Sulfur dragon. In our blood, iron fights fear that comes with alchemic sulfur processes, that come with warmth of summer and metabolic animalistic urges coming upward from the body. the iron of Michael in the blood is like cometary showers killing the dragon which brings fear in the blood. Iron can be the vestor of the EGO, the 'I'. Blood is a very special fluid. Carries the Ego. Mars was linked to Adam, made of red earth, his blood made of iron, since then capable of becoming an independant Ego. Eve being created from a rib of Adam, means that she is made of the same substance filled with iron blood capable of carrying the Ego.

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Sorry, I wrote 'comets', but I meant meteors. Made of iron.

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The Great Work’s Magick

IS And IS Genuine From ONE Source:

The Blue Print For Change,

The Codes, Keys And Master Numbers

YOU / WE Entered The Set With

[They Are Triggered By Myriad ‘Sources’

Myriad Syncs]


Held In The True Heart

The True Mind

Timed And Activated By The ONES Who Know

The ONES Who Care



Spelled ‘phonetically’ but Sync doesn’t care:

F  i  l g  r a m a  t  h e a
6 9 3 7 9 1 4  1  2 8 5 1  =  56  =  11   

Note:

5 With-In

6 With-Out


http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/730511335.jpg


[Personal Interpretation]:

5  =  So Phi A ( 32 ) =  WE ( 55 )


6  =  The Dual Aspects Of:       

Orion
Pleiades   
Sirius


Merged In The Sphinx / Earth / Singularity

To:

Transmute > Transform > Transcend


*   ***   *******           *******   ***   *


The reference above in # 14 (5)
[Yesterday 04:10:54]   =   14 (5)

Turned out to be:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Riftwar_Saga


Something in Tomas’s appearance caused the old elven spellweavers to be fearful, though they would not speak of it.

Tomas had by this time grown to a figure of stunning power, made so by his armour, once worn by one of the Valheru – a dragon lord – the legendary first people of Midkemia, masters of all. Little was known about them save that they were cruel and powerful and had kept the eledhel and moredhel as slaves.

Queen Aglaranna, her son, Calin, and Tathar, her senior advisor, feared that Tomas was being consumed by the power of Ashen-Shugar, the ancient Valheru whose armour he wore; they feared an attempt at a return of Valheru domination.

Tomas underwent a great change, bringing the forces of the Valheru and the human into balance. In a titanic inner battle, the human was nearly overcome, but at the end he mastered the raging inside him that was once the Dragon Lord and at last discovered peace within his soul. He became Prince-Consort to Aglaranna

And As Refresh:


http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/anonymous-yin-yang-dragons-5000591.jpg



Dragons

A Form to Facilitate a Function

A Window of Awareness

All that counts is What Is Inside

WE have Many Friends In Many Forms

~~~~~~~   ~~~   ~

The emphasis was the Yin Yang Symbol:

Through one Window: Balanced Duality

Through another: Duality Bounded (Trapped), Spinning ‘endlessly’ - Gone insane - Constantly feeding revenge, pain and suffering.......

[A number of years back, PBS had a presentation about: The Tibetan Book Of The Dead:

In one part it depicted an after death Spirit discovering Itself to be trapped because It couldn’t Re-Member Who It Really Was / Is.......

After going ballistic for ‘awhile’, It is forced to reincarnate

Reincarcerate

As Its only ‘option’ in this box.......]

See Also:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=3431


Love Comes To End This Distortion:


‘Pinch’ the Center of the Symbol and Pull it Upward through Dimensions and Densities into a Cone.......

Note:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2139


And more Dragon Feed -Back / Concepts Here:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4048

Leading to Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Gate_Cycle

11   23   11

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http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/Dragon.jpg

11   23   11

26 (edited by zenden 2007-02-03 13:22:21)

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from     http://www.thothweb.com/content-527.html  an interview with RJ Stewart--Fairy/faery expert/shaman.  check out the parts on the "old ways", and how some of the powerful spirits stayed manifested in the land.  sounds like invested in the land.  gave up moving on, to 'protect' the land, the ppl on it, and its meanings. some kind of ? personal sacrifice.  dissolving to intend nurturing, giving up some further journey? to stay intended with the land.  the idea of sacrificing for the greater good of the whole, like a duty that must be done.  very noble. looks like ultimately, FOR LIBERATION.  also mentions the EXCHANGE, just like Lipstick said.  all about dragons from this POV, the elemental side of things.  always 'protecting' this earth.  the "soul" of the rocks, plains, etc. backs up the above from SiriArc.  no back-up needed.  just thot i'd show it.  again, all sources merging anf breaking thru--onward.  always giving  the opportunity for greater understanding... voluntary sacrifice  "i dissolve in order to nurture"=STO.  the self helping others, sacrificing.  and thats been so distorted thru the ages.

"In your book, The Power Within the Land, you state the Sacred Kings and Priestess Queens have merged with, and are the land itself. What do you mean by merging?

R. J. Stewart: This idea was important both culturally and in esoteric magic. What I was taught and now know is certain people, today as well as in the ancient megalithic past, chose to undergo some kind of voluntary sacrifice. In a small way, we do this everyday. You let go of something. Bigger versions of this occur when people decide to dedicate themselves to a particular kind of work because it benefits others. The ultimate of this involves a sacrificial death. Christianity has wrongly stated it is the only sacrificial religion, and that Jesus' sacrifice replaces all others. This is simply not true. Christianity was a mystery cult like many others at the time, and of course it had to have a sacrificial death and resurrection because nobody would have joined if it didn't. After all, things destroyed do indeed regenerate and are reborn. This is a fact of our planetary existence. The mystery is what happens between the death and the rebirth. There are certain beings, certain people, who choose to remain in a state where their consciousness is absorbed into the land. The old Sacred Kings worked with only one land, locality and tribe. They would go into the land and there they would commune certain deep insights, powers and energies to others, not from some spirit dimension, as in channeling, but from within the body of the land."

i think ur right on the iron druid.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

27 (edited by zenden 2007-02-03 13:18:47)

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from      http://www.librarising.com/cosmology/cosmos101.html  reptilian queens.  those from cappella sound like theyre the ones anton parks talks of.  just fascinating and this is from a compilation of sources.

CAPPELLA -- Formerly an independent race of bluish-skinned Reptiloids, the Cappellans are a female dominated warrior society who were drawn under Draconian domination after the Greys approached them a few centuries ago claiming to be fleeing from Draco overlords, and asking the Cappellans' assistance and cooperation. In reality the deceitful Greys were working fully under the Dracos direction, and used their collaboration with the Cappellans to betray and conquer them. In recent times the female Cappellans -- who are naturally taller than the males -- rebelled and liberated themselves from the Greys and Dracos. They have since joined the Federated worlds in their efforts to blockade the Sol system from Draconian interventionists (source: "Tau", a Canadian contactee).

BELLATRIX ORION -- The home of a genetically engineered race [the Skril?]. These are very nasty and mean Reptiloids with genetically assimilated insectoid features, and heavily cyber-enhanced. Bellatrix also harbors many of the 'original' egg-laying Reptilian 'queen-breeders', who assimilate the various genetic resources that are acquired from different worlds in order to enhance their race, or to develop various other genetically conglomerate sub-races, each of which serve different purposes within the empire or the Draconian 'Hive'. The security levels surrounding these 'queens' are some of the most intense in the galaxy (source: Ray Keller, and others).

i have read her name is (there may be more than one)  Ashoka Ashkanazi  from an Asara/Asura line, which is brahmic indian, and of hindu origin later.  and they do have a major caste system.  inherited?  same thinking and societal structure?  maybe.  and they have had female ruler (s).  theyre big into female ashuras/goddesses.  there is a big pleroma out there.  wish i could find that abraham link.  this is interrelated somehow.  the orion war scenarios are in here.  the egyptians were totally into orion.  it leads back there, from there.  the whole HIVE mind thing can be easily seen.  thats why trying to hive everybody again, then they'll really have us.

check the last sentence from thr above link.

some good research has been done here, on this sorta new website, but kind of a weird slant i noticed.  i just wanted to show the queen rep material.  it is HARD to get.  not ur everyday subject matter.

Q: (L) Well, then how did mankind come to be here?
A: Combination of factors. Numerous souls desired physical existence then was altered by three forces including principally Lizards through Grays, Nephalim and Orion union.
Q: (L) Tell us again who are the Nephilim?
A: Enforcers. Slaves of Orion. From Planet 3C, or 3rd star, 3rd planet.
Q: (L) You said the other night that the Nephilim came from some area around the constellation Scorpio, is that correct?
A: Originally seeded there but you were too.
Q: (L) We were originally seeded somewhere else? Where? Orion? What is the name of that planet?
A: D'Ankhiar. Ankh is ancient symbolism of this planet. Is female symbol. Stands for mother planet. [Which suggests that this is the source of all human mitochondrial DNA.]

the ankh--very interesting.  the sign/symbol of eternity.  the womb and the vesica pices entryway. 

back to dragons, and less on reptoids.  except for maybe some more research into the Ciakar.  will have to see if relates.  winged mighty creatures both of these species.  BOTH very very VERY OLD.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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Siria Arc:

Those same two glyphs big and small (Imix) except with a dot rather than the two lines are my birth glyph from the Dreamspell. That supposedly make me red magnetic dragon and a vessel for the comsic energies to pour through. However, as stated in previous posts I had a weird experience of the not-earth kind using these glyphs, and also dreamspell gives specific meditations for the glyphs and sometimes they are " I am a cosmic activation portal, enter me" Wish I would not have done that one to tell you the truth - lol lala

Zenden,
I have met RJ Stewart, been in rituals with him and produced a cable access show with him as a guest on it. He is a cool guy and a holder of ancient lore and so forth, Scottish, and he is also a scholar and an intellectual authority on this lore. Cool, but one of the phases I have just gotten to in my own spiritual journeying is the difference between experiencing stuff as teachings that go through the mind, and experienceing energy that goes through and into the body, the etheric body and the astral body. I did RJ's initiation of inner convocation of priests and priestesses, and I had a fairy cord made during that that was quite powerful in terms of connecting with inner earth beings. However, one of the things that I have come to is that I don't know what my true soul resonance is, or wants to be. Maybe it is not inner earth, maybe it is not cosmic Mayan, I  have whipped through so many strange paranormal experiences in the last year, that I am hesitating to connect with anything until I know for sure that is where my evolution is wanting to head toward. For instance, maybe some people are cosmic and not earth people and the frequencies of inner earth beings are not going to jive with them, also how do I know that all these beings are "good" in terms of where my soul wants to head, or maybe energies that my soul wants to be free of.


about that:

The old Sacred Kings worked with only one land, locality and tribe. They would go into the land and there they would commune certain deep insights, powers and energies to others, not from some spirit dimension, as in channeling, but from within the body of the land."

Yes, in the Arthurian mysteries "the king and the land were one" and sworn to protect the land, spiriutal stewards of the land -  that is  the lineage of Pendragon, but it is also a very patriarchal lineage. The king mated with the priestess who represented the land and all that to ensure the continued bounty of the godess, but is this the ultimate sacred feminine energy that could manifest in the field of earth's potential, I wonder. The Scottish and Celtic  kings, warlords, and feudal chieftans a lot of times owned their (often several) wives and concubines and servants and so forth, just like all dynastic, fuedal cultures. I am hoping that there is something better coming down the pike in terms of the sacred feminine energies making a cosmic comeback. And not matriarchy, or feminist theory, either, I think that we have so little of ways of thinking or being that are not of these old constructs, that we don't know what that is going to look like or what form that it is coming in. I think that ancient cultures and their connection to the land is a positive aspect of those cultures, but  for me personally, I don't think that that bus is stopping here again: different bus, different stop, different route, different passengers.


I've recently gotten the idea (from other things on this site, for instance, that I do not want to be connected to the Akashic records, an etheric database that possibly I don't need to be in, maybe it was invented by beings I don't want to be linked to anymore) These ideas are way-out, but the times are now way-out.

Druid,
the thing about iron and repelling etheric beings is: do we want to attract etheric beings? The so-called "higher" realms are above the etheric realm, are they not, for instance the angelic and archengelic realms, the ethers are more about fourth dimension - human gods, godesses, fairies, elementals, dragons, creatures and so forth - yes? Do we have to, as spiritual beings, share  psychic space with fourth dimensional beings, or is it a choice? If we raise our vibration enough to where we are in a different place, will we be in a different world? Is 4-D part of the artificial, semi-conscious-of- itself web of the matrix, or is it independent and outside of it?

This thread has much food for thought and exploration, thank you all so much, funny how the metaphysical and the alien thing just can't help but overlap - lala

don't judge a book by its name

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lala wrote:

the thing about iron and repelling etheric beings is: do we want to attract etheric beings? The so-called "higher" realms are above the etheric realm, are they not, for instance the angelic and archengelic realms, the ethers are more about fourth dimension - human gods, godesses, fairies, elementals, dragons, creatures and so forth - yes? Do we have to, as spiritual beings, share  psychic space with fourth dimensional beings, or is it a choice? If we raise our vibration enough to where we are in a different place, will we be in a different world? Is 4-D part of the artificial, semi-conscious-of- itself web of the matrix, or is it independent and outside of it?

I think the question is not whether or not we have to live with elementals in the elemental world. They are everywhere, taking care of the ethers that keeps nature alive and flowing, but also in machines and computers (those are stuck in a downward spiral)... We have to learn to collaborate with them again. We lost this hability and now nature is in a grave danger if we do not learn to collaborate with nature again. It implies collaboration with elementals. But our source of freedom comes not from elementals themselves, it comes form angelic hierarchies, for us the closest hierarchy is our own personal guardian angel. When we connect ourselves to the angelic guide, we don't have to worry about being fooled by elementals (they are mostly trickters, not morally deviant - their immoral behavior is an automatic reflection of our own immorality, they can only steal part of our free will and spirit and then appear to act on their own - but they are always under guidance of angels - be they rightful or fallen angels).

Collaboration with elementals has nothing to do with magical practices or wicca sorcery or invocations, or ceremonial magick, or anything like that. we should avoid these ways, they spoil our spiritual development because they belong to ancient times where the relationship with the world was different. Today we must learn to encounter them in full presence of mind, in daylight clarity of mind.

Unfortunately, most elementals have fallen in the clutches of Lucifer and Ahriman. One wise individual can redeem many elementals and show them their true spiritual path, which is to fulfill their rightful function in Nature, but it takes only a few black magicians to pollute a whole area of the gobe by attracting fallen elementals and fallen devas. Many of them harrass people living near underground bases, which connect to higher densities in the inner earth, where fallen elementals and fallen devas dwell most of the time.

More important that the etheric-life world to our ability to collaborate effectively and rightly with the elemental world, are higher angelic realms. We need the illumination that angels brings into our Ego to have the strenght and wisdom and LOVE necessary to collaborate correctly with elementals. Elementals do not possess the same wisdom as high angels. Elementals are somewhat under the spell of the laws of creation, they are bound up to their work. If we open up our higher selves to angelic intuition and inspiration, we can make the right imaginations by which we can collaborate again with elementals and bring happiness and joy in the world, health to man and nature.

But the signs of the times are clear : elementals are rebelling against man and they will certainly destroy its babelic construction in some near future, because our civiliastion is not in synch with the wisdom of nature, it hurts nature. We have to learn who to rebuild civilisation anew in accordance to the wise laws of nature.

Elementals can teach us to be in harmony with nature, but only angels illuminate Love into us, when man sacrifices his whole being to Christ in repentance (the paradox is that one finds his true self when he sacrifices his egoism to Christ). One that is not connected to his angel and higher angelic hierarchies is blind in his relationship to Nature because he does not see the finality of the grand design in its globality: which is to become spiritual creators ourselves, throgh the power of the Ego, which is a drop of the Blood of Christ.

In this great destruction facing civilisation, angels will come to help those who are noble and worthy, who 'deserve' to be saved. But this is not the same as the fanciful and popular notion of 'Rapture'. We all know this Rapture is a trap that will come, brought by fallen elementals, courtesy of fallen angels and higher density archons.

Re: Real Dragons vs. Reptilian Humanoids

zenden wrote:

CAPPELLA -- Formerly an independent race of bluish-skinned Reptiloids, the Cappellans are a female dominated warrior society who were drawn under Draconian domination after the Greys approached them a few centuries ago claiming to be fleeing from Draco overlords, and asking the Cappellans' assistance and cooperation. In reality the deceitful Greys were working fully under the Dracos direction, and used their collaboration with the Cappellans to betray and conquer them. In recent times the female Cappellans -- who are naturally taller than the males -- rebelled and liberated themselves from the Greys and Dracos. They have since joined the Federated worlds in their efforts to blockade the Sol system from Draconian interventionists (source: "Tau", a Canadian contactee).

There is a book in portuguese “Os Exilados de Capela ”  "The Exiled ones of the Chapel",
Translated link
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfis … ilados.htm

The download link http://www.espiritismogi.com.br/livros/ … capela.zip

It is about suckers that could not reincarnate in there home planet because they fail their
evolution too much, so they incarnate into a primitive planet(Earth) to suffer and regenerate...

Bye, Pictus

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