South-east Asian tsunami kills thousands (Page 2 of 8)

I saw a story that specifically mentioned all the dead human bodies...AND animals everywhere.   Cows, stuff like that.    This is the first I've heard of a lack of dead animals.   While I totally know for a fact that animals are able to sense earthquakes / weather anomalies before they happen, (I've seen animals do this and there are personal stories about this phenomenon over on the Goro forum....)  I do however question this story.   "Can't find any dead animals" as the article states simply can't be true......

(on a sidenote, there are some incredible stories on the goro forum like i mentioned about people's animals wigging out during the time of the earthquake over in the indian ocean.  most of the stories centered around Canada.  intriguing....)

I doubt very much that anyone on this forum is surprised or shocked by the following article excerpted from www.prisonplanet.com

Foreknowledge of A Natural Disaster
Washington was aware that a deadly Tidal Wave was building up in the Indian Ocean

Michel Chossudovsky | December 29 2004

The US Military and the State Department were given advanced warning. America's Navy base on the island of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean was notified.

Why were fishermen in India, Sri Lanka and Thailand not provided with the same warnings as the US Navy and the US State Department?

Why did the US State Department remain mum on the existence of an impending catastrophe?

With a modern communications system, why did the information not get out? By email, telephone, fax, satellite TV... ?

It could have saved the lives of more than 80,000 people. And the death toll is rising.

The earthquake was a Magnitude 9.0 on the Richter scale, among the highest in recorded history. US authorities had initially recorded 8.0 on the Richter scale.

As confirmed by several reports, US scientists in Hawaii, had advanced knowledge regarding an impending catastrophe, but failed to contact their Asian counterparts.

Charles McCreery of the Pacific Warning Center in Hawaii confirmed that his team tried desperately to get in touch with his counterparts in Asia. According to McCreery, director of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's center in Honolulu, the team did its utmost to contact the countries. (The NOAA in Hawaii's Report at http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2004/s2357.htm ).

His team contacted the US State Department, which apparently contacted the Asian governments. The Indian government confirms that no such warning was received. (The Hindu, 27 Dec 2004)

Nine (9.0) on the Richter scale: The Director of the Hawaii Warning Center stated that "they did not know" that the earthquake would generate a deadly tidal wave until it had hit Sri Lanka, more than one and a half hours later, at 2.30 GMT. (see Timeline below)

"Not until the deadly wave hit Sri Lanka and the scientists in Honolulu saw news reports of the damage there did they recognize what was happening... 'Then we knew there was something moving across the Indian Ocean,' said Charles McCreery. (quoted in the NYT, 28 Dec 2004 ).

This statement is at odds with the Timeline of the tidal wave disaster. Thailand was hit almost an hour before Sri Lanka and the news reports were already out. Surely, these reports out of Thailand were known to the scientists in Hawaii, not to mention the office of Sec. Colin Powell, well before the tidal wave reached Sri Lanka.

''We wanted to try to do something, but without a plan in place then, it was not an effective way to issue a warning, or to have it acted upon,'' Dr. McCreery said. ''There would have still been some time -- not a lot of time, but some time -- if there was something that could be done in Madagascar, or on the coast of Africa.''

The above statement is also inconsistent.

The tidal wave reached the East African coastline several hours after it reached The Maldives islands. According to news reports, Male, the capital of the Maldives was hit three hours after the earthquake, at approximately 4.00 GMT. By that time everybody around the World knew.

It is worth noting that the US Navy was fully aware of the deadly tidal wave, because the Navy was on the Pacific Warning Center's list of contacts. Moreover, America's strategic Naval base on the island of Diego Garcia had also been notified. Although directly in the path of the tidal wave (see animated chart below), the Diego Garcia military base reported "no damage".

"One of the few places in the Indian Ocean that got the message of the quake was Diego Garcia, a speck of an island with a United States Navy base, because the Pacific warning center's contact list includes the Navy. Finding the appropriate people in Sri Lanka or India was harder." (NYT, 28 Dec 2004, emphasis added)

Now how hard is it to pick up the phone and call Sri Lanka?

According to Charles McCreery, director of the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center.

"We don't have contacts in our address book for anybody in that part of the world."

Only after the first waves hit Sri Lanka did workers at National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre [PTWC] and others in Hawaii start making phone calls to US diplomats in Madagascar and Mauritius in an attempt to head off further disaster.

"We didn't have a contact in place where you could just pick up the phone," Dolores Clark, spokeswoman for the International Tsunami Information Centre in Hawaii said. "We were starting from scratch."

These statement on the surface are inconsistent, since several Indian Ocean Asian countries are in fact members of the Tsunami Warning System.

You can read the rest of the article at:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/de … saster.htm

Auendove,  I found this article this morning.  I believe part of the "problem" is the news casters interchange Indonesia with Sumatra. In other words, when they are speaking of Sumatra they say Indonesia ... also, Sumatra roads/infrastructure are devestated so nothing was coming out of Sumatra -

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld … -headlines

Christine B.

I agree.  But I've also gotten to the point where I realize there's nothing I can do about other people's ignorant buffoonery.   I read it and frown, then have to realize that there's nothing I can do about it.   Besides, everybody gets theirs in due time.  You can't walk around with the attitude they have and have a blissful, happy existance, with mental peace of mind and where everything is positive and smooth.   It all comes back around to bite people in the arse, even if they don't even know where "it" is coming from.  I'd hate to see the kinds of lives those people have.

Well yeah, exactly.  I mean, you can't walk around with that kind of long term mentality, wishing death on people based on hateful bigotry and rubbing your hands together in glee when it happens and not have some kind of spiritual repercussions to face.  It's the polar opposite mentality to "We are all One."   They're speeding in the opposite direction of the Creator Source at full force, straight into the gaping maw of the darkside.    That's their choice, their life, their karma, not ours.   It's shocking sometimes for people to encounter that kind of hateful, sick attitude, but the sad fact is, this world is filled with people like what you see in that link.   It's not uncommon.   But it doesn't mean we have to be sucked into it.

You know that saying, you get back what you put out.  Well, when somebody resonates with that mentality...they're going to draw some very negative, nasty things in to their lives.   So for anybody who reads that link and feels crappy afterwards, just know that those people from that church in that link have lives which reflect their mentality.   Know that and move on, don't get sucked in to their negativity and send negative thoughts to the very people putting out negative thoughts themselves.   It becomes like a loop.

Just some interesting thoughts about this "issue".  Scientists have talked about the earth having one big continent (called Pangea I think) and that it split into many parts as the earth's plates moved apart.  Now, we just had one big eathquake followed by a tsunami which supposedly threw off the earth's rotation.  If there ever was a "Pangea", our planet must have been slowly buckin-and-rollin in her orbit.  (I don't remember being taught in school that earthquakes or tsunamis actually affected earth's orbit, do you?)  I'm still skeptical about this whole thing and I feel like there is something fishy about it.

I swear that I'm going to punch the next short sighted idiot I talk to who says "its the end times, its the end times".  :x  The end of time is when 'everything" stops moving.  Even if our planet blows the hell up, there is still going to be a universe left.  *sigh*  Sorry, just had to get that off my chest and write it.  Come on people, even the bible never said it was going to be the end of time.

Now the area is being flooded out by a "deluge from the skies."   What's going ON down there??    This is getting strange.....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s … p;ncid=514

Also in the article, it mentions how some Buddhist statues were found in the rubble, unscathed, and that Buddhist monks were saying it was a "sign", that people weren't living according to religious virtues.   I have a problem with that sort of superstition based logic, because by that rationale most of the rest of the world should have been dealt the same type of punishments because I think most people aren't living lives that religious leaders would consider "up to par."

Anyway, just some thoughts...