1 Topic by cameron (edited by cameron 2004-04-21 07:55:58)

  • From: US.VA
  • Registered: 2004-03-27

Topic: gyroscopes | higher dimensions

I've spoken with numerous under- and graduate level engineering and physics students (and have studied undergraduate myself) and have heard a remarkable synchronicity with regards to gyroscopes.

Noone really seems to be studying these fascinating objects (in much detail, and with experiments).  If they do, it's mostly a cursory theoretical explanation and/or a simple low velocity experiment.

This latest Nasa experiment to test the validity of Einstein's General Relativity has an interesting element to it.

this Rueters article wrote:
The heart of the 3.5-ton satellite is a container holding four spheres the size of ping pong balls that will be chilled to near absolute zero and spun 10,000 times a minute, making them the most accurate gyroscopes ever built.

Now, suppose it took some incredible engineering to create these gyroscope spheres.  Wouldn't one suppose that the process was quite expensive and probably quite involved?  Then, do you think they would only create four of these super precise spheres?  If they created more, than  what would they do with them?

I have serious doubts as to the true nature of this experiment.  I also wonder what the alternative uses for these super precise gyroscopes can/are being used for.

MU'06

2 Reply by Auendove (edited by Auendove 2004-04-21 05:02:02)

  • From: terra incognita
  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: gyroscopes | higher dimensions

First of all--I'm having a brain-cell-smokin' time imagining something compared to a ping pong ball spinning 10K turns p/min as a product of 3D engineered mechanics...:rolleyes:  What kind of machine does that?

cameron wrote:

Then, do you think they would only create four of these super precise spheres?

That would depend upon how much it costs to produce them, and just how proliferate they're intended to be in the world market... and it's that "intention" part that makes us wonder about alternative applications.  Unfortunately, cutting edge technology always comes with a price. or "costs."

I've said before that I'm no Rocket Scientist, neither am I an Engineer type. I've only a basic understanding of quantum physics, so I may be asking this question from a simplistic, maybe even faulty understanding in the first place, but--

Are they saying that four spheres the size of ping pong balls are the most accurate "stablizers" to be had for a 3.5 ton satellite?

--V

BTW--cameron, can you post the article, or the web address to the article?  No doubt it's technical, but I could try to read it. big_smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
------
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol
  • From: US.VA
  • Registered: 2004-03-27

Re: gyroscopes | higher dimensions

V - the link is the "this article" text above... sad I'll try and post more explicit link text from now on...

MU'06

4 Reply by Auendove (edited by Auendove 2004-04-21 06:35:12)

  • From: terra incognita
  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: gyroscopes | higher dimensions

cameron,

Yeah, I didn't see the variance in shade, but my eyes are getting old...ish too, BAH!  Even so, when I did click the link it took me to a "page can't be displayed" page and referred me to montalk.net. 

I had just come back on to post this web site I found in search, though I'm not sure if it's the same thing you were looking at--

http://einstein.stanford.edu/index.html

--V

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
------
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

5 Reply by cameron (edited by cameron 2004-04-21 07:56:56)

  • From: US.VA
  • Registered: 2004-03-27

Re: gyroscopes | higher dimensions

AHH!  u r right, this link is no good.  I will try to fix it...

The stanford site will explain much better than my Reuters article anyway.  So, future viewers: go to Stanford for the facts.

update - Okay, the reuters link is fixed.  (darn nested url tags inside quote= tag)

MU'06
  • From: US.VA
  • Registered: 2004-03-27

Re: gyroscopes | higher dimensions

here are some photo's and quotes from the Gravity Probe B website (the stanford official site).

Given the need for an ultra-stable spin, how could GP-B measure--to 0.1 milliarcseconds--the orientation of the spin axis of this perfect unmarked sphere, and do so without disturbing its perfectly balanced rotation?

The answer came from an unexpected source: superconductivity.

To know which direction the gyroscope is ointing, GP-B simply monitors the orientation of this magnetic field.  A thin superconducting metal loop which is connected to an external SQUID (a Superconducting QUantum Interference Device) encircles the gyroscope.

Teh gyroscopes were ground and polished from only the purest of pure quartz.

Oh my - the 'purest of pure'.  Now, that's pure.
Stats:
- 1.5 inches of fused quartz
- < 40 atomic layers from perfect
- within 2 parts per million (quartz purity)
- 10,000 rpm spin rate
- < 1E-12 degrees/hour drift rate
http://bbwd.net/txp/images/20.jpg

MU'06
  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: gyroscopes | higher dimensions

Humour alert: Technicals please report to funny-bones sections to aid with hilarity. I have zero responses in "found objects" so get out your old wunderkind comedy cds
ORIGINALITY NOT REQUIRED. Do me a favor here.

8 Reply by Auendove (edited by Auendove 2004-04-22 05:18:37)

  • From: terra incognita
  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: gyroscopes | higher dimensions

Sed writes--

Humor alert: Technicals please report to funny-bones sections to aid with hilarity. I have zero responses in "found objects" so get out your old wunderkind comedy cds
ORIGINALITY NOT REQUIRED. Do me a favor here.


Uh-oh!  Did I just fall off the gyroscopic turnip truck?  Am I the gyroscopic 100th monkey? smile



Seriously, am I the only one really interested in these gyroscopes, and now gyroscopes and superconductivity?  Is it only I that has something to learn here?

I've got to tell ya'll, I intuitively get a "big hit" regarding this info.  When I read cameron's first post my crown energy center "blossomed," filled and got very hot, this for me an unfailing indication that I'm best served to investigate what I'm reading.  So yesterday I took to searching and studying, I plan to do more today... this is interesting stuff... I think. wink

There's more I'd like to explore of this if one or more are interested,
I started commenting here today unprepared, there are a few things I read yesterday I'd like to bring to the table, and some things I'm going to explore today that could maybe be disscussed (I need to revisit Bucky's "Jitterbug Motion") if anyone is interested?  I have to warn you though, I have far more questions than I have even a  conclusion one.  I'm going by the seat of my pants here, as I'm no braniac, and I do feel like I'm putting together a puzzle, and some of the puzzle pieces are hidden. 

Also, and another one of those "I can't believe I'm going to write this outloud" things again roll big_smile--from that intuitive front I often speak/think from I have an extremely strong impression, to the point of words "manifesting" with resolute understanding, that there is a

"4D exchange of information and energy regarding this information. Exchange as in reciprocal." 

And ya know what?  It's not a negative thing, it involves STO energies, and if I'm correct in my interpretation, substantive consciousness transitioning energies... although I am quickly reminded that everthing is corruptable in 3D Land... bah-dump-bump!  There's another one for ya SednaSphere! wink

If nobody responds here I'll just go play with my gryoscopic particles all by myself. sad

--V smile

My oh my, but I did get Smiley Face happy with this one, didn't I? big_smile big_smile big_smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
------
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol
  • From: US.VA
  • Registered: 2004-03-27

Re: gyroscopes | higher dimensions

V wrote:

Seriously, am I the only one really interested in these gyroscopes, and now gyroscopes and superconductivity?   Is it only I that has something to learn here?

No, I think this is quite interesting wink  (oh, wait, I posted this topic)

MU'06
  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: gyroscopes | higher dimensions

No, no, Auendove, I am interested! Please keep posting. My humor alert was an out-of- the-blue-crazed insane thing that has nothing to do with this subject.

  • From: terra incognita
  • Registered: 2004-03-25

Re: gyroscopes | higher dimensions

cameron wrote:

No, I think this is quite interesting   (oh, wait, I posted this topic)

Well, isn't that "precious?"  I wondered if I was losing something "in translation." Yeah, I know you posted it... sorry roll

I still wonder what it is I'm actually able to bring to the table... let me ask you this cameron--do you see any "metaphysical"
implications (word choice?) to gyroscopic particle action?  Metaphysical in relation to the idea of "transitioning" one density realm to another?  When you read what I wrote here--

"[It's a] 4D exchange of information and energy regarding this information. Exchange as in reciprocal."

 

--what was your "gut reaction?"  I'm just curious as to where your "head's at."  I guess I'm pretty much thinking they're not all about propulsing and stablizing satellites, much less the toy that is a Spinning Top.

Tell me, what do you think?

--V

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
------
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
------
If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol