1 (edited by notintime 2004-04-30 09:54:29)

Topic: **Orgone Experience**

Do any of you have experience with orgone, orgone generators, chembusters, etc.?  There is a large, motivated effort on the www these days dedicated to using orgone for energetic healing and empowerment, of both individuals and the earth itself.  The movement was initiated by Don and Carol Croft's stories of energetic back-and-forth battles with the NWO and negative higher-dimensional entities, posted on Educate Yourself.org.
     To clarify, i'm looking for postings from those who've actually experimented with orgone, as opposed to only having read someone else's writings about it.

2 (edited by Xenopope 2004-09-12 00:59:20)

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notintime wrote:

Do any of you have experience with orgone, orgone generators, chembusters, etc.?  To clarify, i'm looking for postings from those who've actually experimented with orgone, as opposed to only having read someone else's writings about it.

No, but . . .

I've been reading the private forums at http://www.ethericwarriors.com/index.php where they share their 'gifting' experiences. There has _got_ to be some here who have at least _something_ to add on this. Maybe they just overlooked it . . .

For clarity, read up on orgone energy and 'gifting' at www.educate-yourself.org click on 'Don & Carol Croft' to access 'Adventures of Don & Carol Croft'

The closest I could come to these experiences would be simply noticing the towers in my neighborhood. all I need is some ammo and I could become an 'etheric operative'! cool . . . I could think of a few places that could use some 'gifting' namely MY OWN HOME AND IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORHOOD.

Montalk, if you would, please share your convictions/experiences on the orgone energy entity and it's devices and techniques. I would assume you to be in agreement with the general concepts at the site since they link to your site, but would eagerly seek further confirmation of the devices' etheric effectiveness.

I am as is Void.

Re: **Orgone Experience**

Hi,

I built a holy hand grenade, that's a cone shaped block of resin, metal BB's, and crystals. Couldn't tell if it worked or not...  A friend of mine had a chembuster, and yes it cleared some chemtrails but his water powered cloudbuster was a howitzer in comparison as it was much stronger.

I'm planning on doing more experimenting with variations on the Croft idea. Also, should mention here that Croft himself got the idea of orgonite from some other guy who was selling devices at a couple hundred bucks a pop, which Croft opened up and reverse engineered...was just resin and metal shavings, an amorphous orgone accumulator.

Well, I want to make an orgonite water fountain... will post results.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

4 (edited by Xenopope 2004-09-13 12:17:09)

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montalk wrote:

I built a holy hand grenade, that's a cone shaped block of resin, metal BB's, and crystals. Couldn't tell if it worked or not

Well, I want to make an orgonite water fountain... will post results.

Couldn't tell if it worked? you mean you couldn't feel anything? did you bury it? could you get somebody who is more sensitive like a person who is phychic and ask them if it's working?

Orgonite water fountain? i don't get it, how would it work? you mean a regular water fountain made out of the resin & metals?

I am as is Void.

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I've been experimenting with orgone devices for several years. I like to work with my hands and I needed a hobby. I've had some very powerful experiences with the first batch I made, and several modifications I made later on. The problem is the effects for me do not last very long. Either I can't hold the energy or something/somebody is coming in and sabotaging it. I brought my devices to an energy sensitive "etheric warrior" and he said it blew the top of his head off, however I only felt the initial blast when the resin hardened, and that was a substantial effect. I accidentally sent a pair of sunglasses into hyperspace for a few hours last year, using huge bucking neo magnets wrapped with a Bedini coil. My impression of the people (most of them) at cloud-busters.com is positive and highly spiritually advanced. I built 6 powerwands with embedded speakers in the bases, I run the 6 solfeggio frequencies through them. You can custom build your own zapper to any desired frequency.

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Xenopope wrote:

Couldn't tell if it worked? you mean you couldn't feel anything?

No, I couldn't feel anything that might not just be imagination, and the holy hand grenade didn't keep away any astral/etheric critters either. My negative ion generator works way better and puts out something tangible too (sparks, cool air, electromagnetic noise, and negative ions). In the end I buried it outside my old apartment, in case it does work then it can cleanse the area for whoever lives there next.

Only psychics can see energies emitted by subtle energy devices, but if you're not psychic yourself, how do you know if someone you take these devices to isn't just faking or imagining it? Unless the psychic has a good reputation for being able to see energy, the direction of your research is likely to go astray with subjectivity.There's so much room for wishful thinking, delusion, paranoia, etc... I mean, what if some of the leading etheric warrior psychics are programmed agents of the lizzies? Then the output of the entire orgonite research community can be directed in accordance with an STS agenda.

However, I know orgone accumulators work because I can feel them, and so theoretically orgonite should work too since it's metal interspersed through rather than interleaved with a non-conductive substance. And it makes sense that quartz crystals should amplify and purify what energy is generated or collected by the orgonite. So I'm going to build another improved version and test it out again.

As for the fountain, I want to make a heavy funnel out of orgonite where water is injected at the rim and allowed to spiral in a vortex through the bottom into a bowl where the pump is. The idea is to have a permanently circulating vortex of water, which I think by itself can have positive benefits. I'm making the funnel out of orgonite for the fun of it because even if orgonite does nothing, at least the water vortex should.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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I have been "vortexing" my drinking water using a tornado tube, with 2 huge neos at the neck where the vortex comes to a point. Dramatic taste difference. They say it wipes the memory clean, like erasing a tape. anyone see Emoto's work with water crystals? Cloudbuster group is big on the use of water in their devices.

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That's a good idea. Viktor Schauberger was big on improving water through vortex circulation methods. One device was shaped like an egg, with a funnel inside dumping water downwards onto a spinning disk which shot the water up the sides of the egg and back into the funnel. So this created a feedback cycle where water swished down the funnel in a vortex over and over again. It could turn dead and cloudy water into the most pristine spring water. So your vortex tube (that's two pop bottles connected at the mouth, right?) with neodymium magnets should do similar. What kind of water do you start with (tap, filtered, spring, distilled?) and have you noticed any energizing effects from drinking it?

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

Re: **Orgone Experience**

montalk wrote:

That's a good idea. Viktor Schauberger was big on improving water through vortex circulation methods. One device was shaped like an egg, with a funnel inside dumping water downwards onto a spinning disk which shot the water up the sides of the egg and back into the funnel. So this created a feedback cycle where water swished down the funnel in a vortex over and over again. It could turn dead and cloudy water into the most pristine spring water. So your vortex tube (that's two pop bottles connected at the mouth, right?) with neodymium magnets should do similar. What kind of water do you start with (tap, filtered, spring, distilled?) and have you noticed any energizing effects from drinking it?

Hello Montalk, actually you don't even need the second bottle...just spin it into a coffee pot or something. The trick in making one of these vortex bottles is to get your hole size right. If it just gurgles without forming a vortex you need a bigger hole. Mine ended up being 3/8ths to 1/4 inch. I used harddrive magnets for mine....very powerful.

Then you have some other variables to play with. North sides in, south sides in, spin CW, spin CCW, etc.....I always started with just plain old filtered tap water but also tried distilled, couldn't tell much of a difference.

One way to "test" the water is to put some in an ice-cube tray. People have reported "spikes" growing out of the new cubes. No joy for me tho....:(

It does seem to taste better as well as feel "slicker" tho.

Saracen

"We will not go quietly into the night, We will not give up without a fight...."

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Thanks for the info, saracen. How do you have the magnets arranged around the neck of the bottle? North-South field passing from one side of the neck to the other, or North-North both pointing inward from the sides...or like a ring magnet where N or S point into or out of the bottle opening? I have some cube-shaped neodymiums that I could try out and am wondering wondering which configuration to start with.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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montalk wrote:

Thanks for the info, saracen. How do you have the magnets arranged around the neck of the bottle? North-South field passing from one side of the neck to the other, or North-North both pointing inward from the sides...or like a ring magnet where N or S point into or out of the bottle opening? I have some cube-shaped neodymiums that I could try out and am wondering wondering which configuration to start with.

I used north/north 180 degrees apart mostly. I never tried north/south into/out of the bottle opening, my magnets didn't do such a thing easily. With neo's and opposing poles facing inward you need some really strong rubber bands to keep them there...:)

Most things I've read say that the North pole is associated with a "positive" charge and that CW is the preferred direction for the northern hemisphere. Not that I necessarily agree or disagree with that but it's as good a starting point as any.

Saracen

"We will not go quietly into the night, We will not give up without a fight...."

Re: **Orgone Experience**

notintime wrote:

Do any of you have experience with orgone, orgone generators, chembusters, etc.?  There is a large, motivated effort on the www these days dedicated to using orgone for energetic healing and empowerment, of both individuals and the earth itself.  The movement was initiated by Don and Carol Croft's stories of energetic back-and-forth battles with the NWO and negative higher-dimensional entities, posted on Educate Yourself.org.
     To clarify, i'm looking for postings from those who've actually experimented with orgone, as opposed to only having read someone else's writings about it.

I've actually made and used these devices. Like montalk I can't quite say whether or not it was my imagination but if it was there were some other people with an imagination as good as mine. My favorite was to put my HHG under a chair and see if people noticed anything. Most did. Generally a warm feeling up the spine.

In general I'd say my experience with HHG's, TB's and my Chembuster was positive. The experience with the cloud-busters forum however was not. This tainted my view of these devices and subsequently I never deployed anything on any property but my own. For some reason I get the image of a "Trojan Horse" in my head whenever I read all the cheerleading about "gift, gift, gift". Don Croft seems to be another of "those people" (read Ark and Laura) who can't seem to get along with anyone.

I was fascinated with the coil making aspects of it and really got quite good. It does take a lot of patience and practice.

Saracen

"We will not go quietly into the night, We will not give up without a fight...."

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My magnets were N-S around the neck, attracting. The water tastes especially good when it's fresh spun. I add a little sally water after the treatment. If I lived in a colder climate, I'd like to examine the ice crystals formed by this water, like Emoto did, under a microscope. I thought that the vortex will only go one way in each hemisphere of the earth, like down a drain. I always drink my water while I'm working out at the gym, so I feel great anyway.I use distilled water only, with Willard water added.

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This is my first post on this forum... but.... I am Stacie from the Etheric Warriors board.

I have been a "gifter" for over a year now. Lots of positive changes in my environment. I have nothing but good to say about the effects of positive orgone in my life.

15 (edited by annie aronburg 2004-11-24 03:08:04)

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Yay Stacie!
I'm new here too but I still want to welcome you to the Noble Realms. I'm a daily lurker at E-W!

I started making orgonite in September of this year and have noticed positive changes in my life as well. I like crafts to begin with and I'm against the new world order, so it seemed a good fit.

Perhaps simply deciding I was going to do something to alter my environment and experience was enough to create a change, but I notice that the changes in me are starting to make changes in those around me.

Chatting with my housemates this summer about using ear candles to remove implants (we're like the Illuminati's version of "Friends") led to one of them googling for "ear candles & implants" which led to educate-yourself.org which led to the wacky world of Don & Carol Croft and of course montalk.net.
It started out simply enough with everybody getting into crystals, gems and minerals and after a few unmolested outings in our hematite bracelets, even the gnarliest heavy metal satanist in our bunch became a believer.Sure, we all hated chemtrails and mind control, but what to do?

It's easy  to believe the "crazy" "conspiracy" "theories" out there but it's hard to find an antidote for the hopelessness and anger they generate.

I'm an early adapter, as they say in the tech trade, and I don't mind being called nuts so I just got started. Whatever effect it had on me was enough to make people I care about want to join in.

Now we make orgonite in muffin tins and take mental notes of places we'd like to gift next (and where to get metal shavings).

Places where I have gifted:

My house, my street, where the police murdered a woman one block away, the local hipster gentry coffee shop, my bank, the huge cell phone towers 10 bocks away, the smaller ones hidden on neighborhood churches, the local daycare, a portal to the  tunnel that runs beneath I-5, and my own personal axe to grind: NIGHTCLUBS and any music venue where I happen to get an All Access pass.

I've also given lots of orgonite to un/dis-believers because I think they are better testers/experimenters than "believers". I have gotten enough surprised or bemused confirmation from these sources to persist. Never mind how clear my skin and shiny my hair has become....

I went by a friend's recording studio today to learn his engineer had found the orgonite I hid under the 2" 24 track tape deck a month ago and was kind of embarrassed at how "weak" it seemed compared to the batch I made this week.  I don't consider myself "energy sensitive"  (well, I do, just not THAT way, for the moment) but like cooking or making sweet love, I think practice makes perfect, so don't quit before the miracle.

I urge everyone on this forum who has $25 for a can of fiberglass resin and good ventilation to give it a try.

Anyone who doesn't should pop down the Orgonite Rabbit hole for a visit and explore for themselves, you never know what you will learn.
Aside from www.ethericwarriors.com, other interesting sites to visit on the topic of orgonite manufacture and distribution are:

www.goalternatif.moonfruit.com
www.moonbeammemos.blogspot.com
and of course
www.ethericfire.com, if you really want to check out "another of 'those people'  who can't seem to get along with anyone."


Aa-- in Portland, Orgone