You are not meant to be free... (Page 2 of 3)

I think it is a probable truth that we chose to incarnate into this dimension/density precisley because we wished to experience or participate in 3rd density physicality, with all its percieved limitations.

At risk of stating the obvious: sleeping, eating washing, shopping etc,  are all an integral part of maintaining the well being of the physical. I don't see them as a chore. They can be very enjoyable activities if you choose to experience them that way. they don't make me feel "dependent" on the physical. I am physical and I embrace it, especially whe I get into a swimming pool!. I think a key point arising from this thread is that of how ones percieve reality. And that is a mirror of where you are in the circle of life on earth.

From what I understand of what many call "the Work", or "the purpose of life",  a major part of what some of us working on the ascending spiral of life came here to do, was to master emotion whilst still in the physical. Working to be balanced, even in the midst of this current cosmic tornado. The Matrix Comtrol System for want of a better phrase, is a very challenging prison to "escape" from. Perhaps we just underestimated how difficult, before we incarnated!. Some perhaps came to just observe and not participate except when necessary to keep the body alive. Others actively choose to align with the prison system perhaps because that is their current choice. I choose to "express my "resistance" by increasing my awareness. Then attempting to put that awerenss into action in all aspects of my  physical, intellectual and emotional aspects.

This is not just limited to atttending political rallies, or even as some choose to do, actively attacking the system. As I am trying to work to be of service to life, I do not advocate attacking anything or anyone. However, if I should be attacked, I surely have the human right to choose to resist, emotionally, intellectually and sometimes physically.

Hence humanity has a large body of evidence and schools of thought about a millenial quest to "ascend". Your statement "You are not meant to be free" seems to be justified and based on an assumption that we must not act physically - and you limit physicality to violence - to create the kind of future we wish to see. ie turn the other cheek and only go inward. I think if one subscribes to free will, one can not seek to determine or judge another's way of expressing their work.

How is one to temper and test their ability to balance the emotional and the physical and the mental, if they do not engage with clear and positive intention, with life in this "prison"?

I agree, we are "not meant to be free" according to the Matrix in its 3rd dimensional expression, but we have a choice, and your statement implies that lying back and finding some detached inner peace will suffice. We can choose to march, write books, interact with full consideration to all we meet, etc. Its all interconnected. thus we are both a part, and not a part of the "system".

I agree with the above and just happen to find nothing "wrong" with being physical. Nor do   I equate "resistance" with violence. At some level, it is a voluntary choice that we have made, even if, as alluded to above, you think you may think you did not come here of your own free will..

Did someone advocate a physical violent uprising of some sort? I don't recollect that.

I think I understand what you are saying WMHAOI, but feel you have expressed it in a limiting way. Please clarify if you think I have misunderstood you.

mimi

this is exactly what i believe. we are here from our own choosing, or more accurately the choosing of our incarnations from higher dimensions(densities) that exist in a non-physical existance.

i also think that there are Birthing Guides and some kind of Karmic rules that come into play between incarnations, things and factors that determine what lessons you still have to learn, or didnt learn correctly... thus shaping your new life incarnation and the various things that will happen in it like situations, people you meet, troubles, tribulations, and RESTRICTIONS

we are given these things so that we can learn lessons.

but another thing i believe that is part of the entire construct of all existance on the many different levels is SEPERATION/INTEGRATION...

what i mean is it seems that the purpose of "life" (not just physical) is to seperate or split up; and attempt to reassemble or integrate back into unity... this seems to be the ultimate test of everything...

like the SOURCE of ALL split up into several parts which creates SOULS and the layout of the universe (dimensions)

a souls splits itself to incarnate into a physical body

but the ultimate goal shall be to return to the source.

in this view, i see it our TEST to set ourselves free, to reach that Source we have "seemingly" lost connection with.

so, i could agree with wmhaoi in that "we are not meant to be free" according to these rules that have bound us in this 3d life- BUT THATS JUST THE TEST !!

its setup like this to challenge us to become free.

to return to the source.

and when we get there, more tests and challenges will manifest, i am sure of that.

Okay, I read your story.  I missed it before, probably cause I am so sick of hearing about D.C.   Umm, it has a very different tone to the recent posts you have been making.  You describe yourself as a 'lost sheep'.  I still say your recent posts have a preachy flavor to them.  Perhaps, you are overcompensating for your bizarre experiences, trying to find security in certain 'truths'?  I am merely suggesting something here.  Another thing that occurred to me is that you might be a victim of a mind control experiment like mkultra, or something.  Maybe that would be a good place for you to start researching, if you haven't.  I'll help if I can, and its okay to be lost.  It's a crazy world.  Have you read this whole site?  It's very good, and you might find some information that could help you.  Its not the one and only truth, but it is good.  Do you feel that you are in danger now?
Kathy

Wmhaoi,
Ok.  I hope you find the answers for your strange experiences. 
Best Wishes,
Kathy

Never be too sure of anything, wmhaoi.   Do you think the guv'ment stopped with "MK Ultra" ?  Think again.   MK Ultra is what the mass public is *allowed* to know about.....30 years after the fact.   

Those who are most convinced that something is a certain way, absolutely eliminating all possibilities for a particular something (in your case, mind control)  usually means that they DO have some suspicious things happening to them.  If your Washington DC story is actually true, then believe me, you've got some MAJOR things happening to you.   Those things don't just happen to "normal" (is there even such a thing?) people who aren't involved in something...knowingly, or unknowingly.  Those kinds of stories happen to people who have "things" happening to them.  What kind of things?   Only you would know by reflecting on your life, who you are, who your family is, and what kind of strange experiences life has dealt you.

How anybody can believe / state in this day and age that "there are no controls" on their mind is quite surprising.   The technology is all around us.   Nobody is immune to it.   They've got HAARP, they've got GWEN towers all around the country, there are dozens of cell phone towers in every major U.S. city / town.  If you own a t.v. or watch it even a little bit every week, you're being subjected to control.   If you eat any kind of "food" laiden with chemicals, guaranteed it's doing something to you that you're not even aware of.   If you've ever taken a vaccine, you could very well be implanted.  You could be an abductee and not even realize it, or be in denial about it.   You'd be surpised how prevailant the phenomenon is, and it's not always "aliens" doing the abductions.     But you believe what you need to believe.    Meanwhile, such absolute certainty and dismissal of the possibility of any sort of control on your mind could very well be your downfall.   While you're convinced that you're free of control, you could very well be one of the most controlled people out there.    That's usually how it goes.

If we are "not meant to be free" as you titled this thread, then trust me, "they" feel the same way and are doing everything in their power to make sure that you aren't - from t.v. and media, to school and other programming indoctrinations, to foods and vaccines, to abductions and mind control, and towers all over the place emitting debilitating waves everywhere you go.    You're right....we're NOT meant to be free in their minds.   That's why this stuff exists, and some form of it affects nearly EVERY person who exists in mainstream civilized society.

I never said mine wasn't.   By all means, go back through my posts over the past few months where I talk about my various weird happenings and what I believe to be abductions of a MILAB nature.  (Military Abductions.)    Trust me, wmhaoi, I never said I was immune to this.   In fact in my post that you're responding to here I clearly said "The technology is all around us.   Nobody is immune to it."    Nobody would include me.

I never claimed that I'm able to transcend controls.   I wrestle with it every day.   So I'm not sure where you got that from.......   

Specifically, what controls have you found ways to counteract?   

Go for it, I'm all ears.

Preach all you want, in public where it can be debated/analysed, no worries, freespeech and all, just don't come to my house with printed material.