Well, I'm glad that at least this thread got de-railed soon enough from a most predictable endless string of bickering about whether Christ existed or not. Trucking out one's faith in God or the absence of God only to be disseminated by strangers seemed to me rather fruitless. After the last time I posted I thought, this is ridiculous, realizing then something of a strong potential for negative influences to polarize readers strongly in one direction or another and turn some completely off to the forum in its entirety. As something of a side note, evidence of this in my mind was a saltcube.com thread that was started some months ago about OBE's. I personally made mention of a link at saltcube.com that pointed directly to a forum member's call for help after experiencing a forced OBE by a demonic entity. By coincidence I no longer consider strange, that member had the same name as my own, his post was written in almost the exact words a persistent "neg" has tried to impress upon me, and this member's experience with demonic assault was once surprisingly similar to my own. Coincidence? Maybe.
Darkness is clever.
Khalil, it is interesting your writing that you now believe that negative influences were somehow authors of this "voice of God" you heard once, which shook you and filled you with good feelings. I wonder, Can darkness accomplish this? Can darkness fill a being with "goodness"? Aside from my idea that it's not really in the interest of higher dark entities to inspire someone with so much "goodness" and run the risk of polarizing them irrevocably into the higher spheres of the positive, I just don't think higher negatively oriented beings are capable of acting from love, but more from "magic" and mystery, and temptations of power, carnal desire, and material things. And if temptation fails, pain and suffering.
Once in a while a similiar type of thought that it was in fact darkness and not light that was originally responsible the heavenly inspiration of my experience will be subtly suggested to me in hopes that I'll accept the invitation to doubt the authenticity of my perception of true light, and therefore assign all of my spiritual experiences to the confines of negative overlordship. I decided to pass on that one. There was a time when I too felt this astonishing presence of "God" about and within me, which spoke, and at the time I wasn't part of any Christian sect or organization. I was baptized a Christian as an infant and began planning my escape from church functions at about the time I was able to tie my shoes. When I began to come into this strange new understanding of some things, which now includes postive and negatively-oriented non-human beings as well as angels, I was as far removed from organized religion as possible. The attempts to bind me to Masonic doctrines were indeed present, as the Ra Material states, the accumulation of light attracts attention. Darkness seems to me to always seek to take credit or authorship of everything, claiming that it was darkness which gave me this thing or that, or that allowed me to get by, and to go so far even as to suggest that it was by permission of darkness which allowed me to experience the true light of my claims.
I go to church only once in a while now. I go to be in the company of others who share my belief in a greater harmony, and in a personal savior, who is Christ. Who cares if someone else doesn't share my belief? I think the idea that negative entities somehow harness and transmute the authentic feelings of love and joy expressed in churches is equally as nutty as some hold my belief in God and Christ.
Sometimes the minister of my church says things that completely grate me and go totally against this heavenly voice and presence I experienced, which said absolutely nothing about whether I should choose, for instance, to love a man or woman, and go to hell because of it. Once this minister looked directly at me, his facial expression changed dramatically, and he said, "Go home. Admit you were wrong," which relates to something he should have had no knowledge of, but it was then up to me to decide whether or not a shadow or spirit of some thing had momentairly passed over him. By the same token, some of those old ladies at my church have raised five kids, worked two jobs, paid mortgages, put food on the table every night, and know that there's a heaven above without having been abducted or stalked across the United States, as I have, by aliens inclined toward the satanic, or attacked by some Old One, demonic, or angelic being determined to drown me in physical and spiritual bonds, or put out the light of my life. I'm still to a greater or lesser degree monitored and followed around by negative forces, but so what? They were always there. The difference now is that I'm aware of them and have adjusted some of my beliefs and behaviors accordingly. These negative influences were present when I was a practicing Muslim, now that I'm a Christian, and they were there when I didn't hold so much as a religious belief at all. I wonder if it's not more to do with the light of love that seeks expression from within you than whether it's through the lens of Jesus Christ, Mohammed who is the Prophet of Allah, or Buddha that you experience this love and light? It's my belief that they're all just aspects or faces of the same Creator, anyway. Granted, the truly demonic absolutely hate Christ, so I suppose it's true that they will hate me, too.
Khalil wrote:One thing I know for sure is that I need to get over this. It's all about those I love and not belief systems.
Given what you've written, I would agree with you. If you get nothing from religion, if Jesus Christ isn't your way, then by all means don't follow him. Don't waste your time. Gather to your self what reinforces your personal belief in peace and love, and those things which nourish your soul.
"Oh where have you been, my blue-eyed son? Where have you been, my darling young one?" - Roxy Music (B. Dylan)
