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  • Registered: 2007-02-12

Re: The Lucifer Project

it DOES sound bizarre...  but depending on what one thinks is possible, many things we all know that are happening can sound bizarre...  i wouldnt put it past them to try it...  im not sure if it's just a hit piece though...  i havent concluded in my own mind how powerful and intelligent they are, but usually im in disagreement when people call them stupid and thoughtless... they are anything but and in many ways are much more advanced and evolved (if in a negative way) than most human beings...  just think of all the technology that they have squirrelled away outside the public eye...  who's to say they dont know very well what would happen if Saturn was ignited?  if they have any connections to higher forces, then they could know a lot of things. 

but then again, they could be retards with just a little bit more information than us and could be scrambling to keep us in enough fear of their power so that they can stay just a half step ahead...  i doubt it though.

to be totally honest, there's a part of me that hopes they are successful...  all of this talk for thousands of years about Armaggedon...  bring it i say!  what are we waiting for?  if it's inevitable, why wait?  but maybe it's not... either way, i look forward to whatever outcome ;]

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Okay, so I think I have to apologize to you guys for putting on such a rant in my last post... hmm I think I let myself become a buffet for the 4-D STS with my reaction. Sheesh.

This taught me a lesson, though. If the whole thing is true--and after really objectively thinking about it for a day now, I really hope not, but I just don't know--then that's really bad news, and I still hold to how thoughtless and stupid it would be. The thing, though, was my reaction to it. The whole idea apparently really pushed my buttons, and I let my emotions run away with me. And that's how TPTB get us.

Whether this Project is true or false, sometimes it's the way these things are presented that borders on disinformation. A grain of truth, couched in fearful language, can still be used to distract us from the real issue. As Montalk always says in his writings, we have to be able to use our discernment--our common sense--to keep our stance and stay calm. It's when we can stay calm and grounded in the face of all the horrors we see that we overcome them.

When we can stand our ground, we can stay focused on doing what we're here to do.

So I'm sorry for flipping out yesterday. Stay strong, y'all.

Cheers

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  • Registered: 2006-09-27

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I never got around to reading this, sorry. It looked really interesting than I totally forgot. But I'll get around to it soon.

based on the thread though, i sense a lot of fear (not that saying that when i read it i wont have the same response) just remember no matter how "bad" something is that they do, the fear it can cause (even before its done) is the biggest danger to you. remember we're the ones (or maybe it's better put that we're the heroes and they're the zeros), you can just smile and say "go ahead, make my-." you know...

remember, this is all happening for your good, cause thats what you chose when you joined this whole mess. smile and wait patiently and when they drop the bomb on you and the smoke clears, you'll be standing there when the smoke clears, still smiling, and then BAM! SUPER SAIYAN lv2! (lv 2 is my favorite super saiyan "mode", it starts getting kinda weird after that...)

sorry,,, I haven't even read it yet, and for all I know ill be back and acting irrationally... I know at the least ill be back here giving my two cents. i just wanted to remind everyone that everything's gonna be ok.

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  • Registered: 2007-02-12

Re: The Lucifer Project

no apology necessary, Falvion smile
i just appreciate your input, no matter what it is...  each person has there own choice in how to deal with 'scary' information... 

the biggest reason i wanted to share it is this:  i think it's good to know that a probe packing 72 lbs. of plutonium is orbiting saturn...  that way, if anything does happen to it, no one can tell you it was god.  you can make more level headed decisions when forewarned/forearmed...

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  • Registered: 2007-06-27

Re: The Lucifer Project

I don't believe it. What a seriously stupid idea. And even if it is true, it's still a stupid idea. Even the name is stupid 'The Lucifer Project'. It's very in your face, but no doubt most people will just nod their heads and go 'Yay NASA!'. Sad. I'm quite happy with one star, thank you very much.

21 Reply by FreeSpirit (edited by FreeSpirit 2007-09-01 18:24:39)

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Re: The Lucifer Project

If as it seems they have tried something similar with Jupiter -possibly with much smaller payload - and it had a visible effect seen from Earth as a giant red spot if I remember correctly much larger than earths diameter then I wouldn't see why they won't try something stupid like this. I had read much earlier about the same thing being done with Jupiter - birthing a sun. I have no idea how I found this particular site and I don't endorse it  as it is another new age style channeling site, but I have read it simply out of interest and fascination with the outrageous ideas that are out there, and as usual there is the good stuff that rings true scattered about for good effect . I personally hope that neither event - Jupiter or Saturn happens or is allowed to happen. In the Jupiter case I think they (not NASA - otherworldy beings) are just bringing forward an event that is destined to happen anyway but in doing so they are lessening the impact on us down here. This is said to happen within six months or so or at this stage toward the end of 2007.There is a lot to read but if you have the time and the energy then here is the link and a small bit quoted.

from: Birthing a New Sun, Jupiter   http://abundanthope.net/pages/article_308.shtml

wrote:

We have long known this event, the igniting of Jupiter into a sun would occur, and this is behind the whole rational of the ascension of Earth at this time. For it is the ascension of the entire solar system in which you live. Hints of this have been given through “science fiction.” You are going to run into some who will debunk this and state that this is not possible, but most surely it is, and the time is ripe. A number of years ago we thought the event would not occur prior to 2010, and possibly a bit later, but everything evolves and changes and so has that timing changed.



We have put out little in updating recently, because we have been in many a conference to discuss what our scientists have learned and who to deal with it at this time, as related to our other activities. It has been decided to assist this ignition at a time more opportune for you, which is when it will next be “behind” the sun, from your viewpoint. Since Jupiter’s cycle is considerably longer than earths, there is about a 6-month leeway period.



The ignition will be less intense for you, if the sun is “in the way” and will buffer it. Nevertheless, it will not be easy. I will leave you to read the rest that Esu has done through Candace.

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Pamelajean wrote:

Seems like they're starting a new earth somewhere else since this one's almost used up.

http://forum.noblerealms.org/pics/659_hhgttg2.jpg
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http://www.royal-plus.de/dna/images/panic3.jpg

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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  • Registered: 2007-05-23

Re: The Lucifer Project

I love the Don't Panic visavis - not sure if it's the same as the Don't Panic I'm thinking of from Hitchhikers Guide to The Galaxy by Douglas Adams but it sure is perfect and appropriate for these times. Maybe instead of getting the chip implant in our foreheads we should have Don't Panic tattoos put there instead. Sorry but your planet's real estate is needed for something else - a parking lot while we work on firing up Jupiter and Saturn. Should be a ball.

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I have just been browsing and found more info at www.disclose.tv- from homepage scroll down to 'video tags', click on NASA, video is on page 1 under NASA.

Also on youtube, search for "lucifer project" you'll get over a dozen videos.

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25 Reply by Antaeus (edited by Antaeus 2007-09-04 19:44:11)

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Tao Jones wrote:

it DOES sound bizarre...  but depending on what one thinks is possible, many things we all know that are happening can sound bizarre...  i wouldnt put it past them to try it...  im not sure if it's just a hit piece though...  i havent concluded in my own mind how powerful and intelligent they are, but usually im in disagreement when people call them stupid and thoughtless... they are anything but and in many ways are much more advanced and evolved (if in a negative way) than most human beings...  just think of all the technology that they have squirrelled away outside the public eye...  who's to say they dont know very well what would happen if Saturn was ignited?  if they have any connections to higher forces, then they could know a lot of things. 

but then again, they could be retards with just a little bit more information than us and could be scrambling to keep us in enough fear of their power so that they can stay just a half step ahead...  i doubt it though.

to be totally honest, there's a part of me that hopes they are successful...  all of this talk for thousands of years about Armaggedon...  bring it i say!  what are we waiting for?  if it's inevitable, why wait?  but maybe it's not... either way, i look forward to whatever outcome ;]

peace

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Maybe turning Saturn into a star will disrupt a naturally occurring stargate through which Planet X (Nibiru) suddenly appears through, as this stargate is in the orbital path of Planet X.  Soloflex posted something about a Pleaides stargate, and it is about how a man is doing the math on the Cydonian mounds which quite possibly represent a hyper calender.  He is doing a lot of number crunching which looks pretty valid at first glance.  That may possibly end a recurring cycle of global wide castrophe from this planets sudden appearance.  Just imagine, a planet arriving, and you dont even have any early warning, as it just shows up suddenly, as if entering through an open door.  Turning Saturn into a star may be a cure that almost kills us all.

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  • Registered: 2007-02-12

Re: The Lucifer Project

ape-x wrote:

I have just been browsing and found more info at www.disclose.tv- from homepage scroll down to 'video tags', click on NASA, video is on page 1 under NASA.

Also on youtube, search for "lucifer project" you'll get over a dozen videos.

i checked out this video and it doesnt really offer anything new.. everything i've seen so far has all come from the same article on Rinf.com...   hmm...  i DO wonder what that hexagon thing is.. it wasnt exactly explained.

sometimes i cant help but wonder if TPTB are just helping us along the evolutionary path.  what if they are being guided by benevolent forces to test us?  i mean... how stupid and drool faced would I be without the turmoil i've lived through?  pretty stupid, "momma, where're my ninja turtle shoelaces?"   i mean, if painful things are just lessons, then arent the PTB possibly the greatest teachers of all time?  what is it that we are getting out of this i wonder?

and why would we worry if things are out of balance or not?  isnt this all just an experiment in learning and consciousness?  maybe the lesson is to love and laugh and not take things so seriously, but damnit i cant help it!

later birds
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Tao Jones wrote:

"if painful things are just lessons, then aren't the PTB possibly the greatest teachers of all time?"

That's half making concessions, and maybe half true. I do follow your reasoning in that. And Cassini was launched 10 years ago, which means if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen.

Even at the risk of altering/destroying life beyond our solar system.  That's the part that makes me think the architects of this one are maybe not..... shall we say...human. In less than a year we'll know.                                           J

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