Re: Stuart Wilde
Hi Feedbaxlow,
The reason i singled out a few choice words [and pushed textual contrariness to a rather farcical extent] was to point out to you the same point you are now making to me. ie.. that words are often inadequate to convey the substance of a concept or idea. I agree with that. But that is no reason to consider my [or other's] use of words and concepts to be ignorant. I believe that words which describe divine concepts are extremely valuable as keys to higher consciousness whereas you believe they are uneccessary clutter. We will have to dissagree about that.
Yes the All God is undifferentiated in essence. But there is infinite variety in the All One. The divine conceptual framework of that variety is "immaculately concieved" by the Higher Mind and can be descibed and communicated in some measure by the use of words and concepts. That communication cannot be and does not have to be complete in order to be valid. Divine concepts and ideas can be verbally conveyed and grasped by the soul. If ideas and concepts are true, they can be a tremendous aid in personally realising the ORIGIN of those ideas and concepts. That is why they are usefull. You seem to believe that concepts cannot originate in the higher Mind. It seems you are suggesting that any concept which describes the differentiated reality must only spring from the intellect of the lower ego and therefore displays a fractured perception.
If what you say is true then Jesus and Guatama should have kept silent after they attained enlightenment. They probably would have had their detractors saying to them... : eg.
"Guatama, you betray your ignorance by telling us anything at all. Your thoughts which you put into words are not the undifferentiated ONE and therefore cannot have originated therefrom and cannot be of any value to us. Empty your mind of such limiting nonsense Guatama... Enough of your metaphysical mumbo jumbo!.. Give us the ONE noble truth and the ONEFOLD path to enlightenment or give us nothing at all! Silence man!" [Gautama taught the 4 noble truths and the 8 fold path and much else during his 40 odd year ministry]
Feedbaxlow, haven't you ever been transported into higher consciousness as a result of an inner recognition of concepts conveyed in the written or spoken word? Do you read in bed? Have you ever placed the book down on your breast when the spirit has swelled within you and demanded your undivided attention? Yes those experiences are beyond the written word but they are catalysed by it, especially when the word itself is presenting concepts which originate in the higher Mind. There will always be ever higher realisations of spirit as the lower frameworks are outgrown. But the conceptual frameworks are useful in the process of spiritual growth and are really only dispensable when we are fully transmuted into spirit. Unless you are fully identified in Spirit and have transcended even the need for the lower vessels of expression you could be missing something useful by insisting that it's all just "excess baggage."
The higher mind is BOTH within thoughts AND beyond them. My experience shows me that the higher Mind can be active within cognition and within the emotional body. What do you think we have a mental and emotional body for? Is it just for the lower cognition of fruity loop brain activity and carnal desire? The temple "made without hands" is a fitting vessel for the most High consciousness. It is a framework concieved in the Divine Mind.
I will dare say that i believe some people have misunderstood the meaning of the following statement :
"Divine consciousness is beyond cognition and concepts."
I have found that to be true but only insofar as it refers to the conceptualisations, desires and thought processes of the lower- ego / monkey mind / carnal mind. However we are fully capable of divining inner truth and communicating it to some degree through concepts. Can a mental grasp of truth concepts prove higher consciousness? No. Does the higher Mind transcend beyond what the vessels of mind and emotion can contain? Yes, but these vessels [of mind and emotion] can CONTAIN truth and they can CONVEY it... spiritually and conceptually. Even though the reader must pass it through their own heart to confirm it [or not] by personal oneness with inner Spirit.
What i am trying to say is that the Spirit, in order to MANIFEST in the material plane, uses the divinely created framework of containers. [It is valid to describe this framework.] The 4 planes of matter are those containers... every atom and cell ... physical, emotional, mental and etheric. So too is the christ Self and chakra system. The knowledge of these things are not irrelevancies to be discarded as "excess baggage." When 'reaching' for the spirit' we cannot simply dismiss the conceptual framework in which it appears. This is why i mentioned that it would be a shame if some people dismissed valid concepts. If a person with the spiritual attainment of Christhood or Buddhahood spoke about these concepts they could too easily be dismissed by some people who believe it is delusionary to be concerned with such things.
If the essential Spirit wasn't supposed to appear in the Buddhic, Christic and material framework [and express through it] we wouldn't even be here. This place and our presence here are conceptual frameworks which cannot be denied. They must be defined by higher consciousness at the same time as we surrender the false concepts of the lower ego. The middle way demands it.