211 (edited by nexus 2007-07-22 06:51:06)

Re: Stuart Wilde

Hi Feedbaxlow,

The reason i singled out a few choice words [and pushed textual contrariness to a rather farcical extent] was to point out to you the same point you are now making to me.  ie.. that words are often inadequate to convey the substance of a concept or idea.  I agree with that.  But that is no reason to consider my [or other's] use of words and concepts to be ignorant.  I believe that words which describe divine concepts are extremely valuable as keys to higher consciousness whereas you believe they are uneccessary clutter.  We will have to dissagree about that.

Yes the All God is undifferentiated in essence.  But there is infinite variety in the All One.  The divine conceptual framework of that variety is "immaculately concieved" by the Higher Mind and can be descibed and communicated in some measure by the use of words and concepts.   That communication cannot be and does not have to be complete in order to be valid.   Divine concepts and ideas can be verbally conveyed and grasped by the soul.  If ideas and concepts are true,  they can be a tremendous aid in personally realising the ORIGIN of those ideas and concepts.  That is why they are usefull.  You seem to believe that concepts cannot originate in the higher Mind.  It seems you are suggesting that any concept which describes the differentiated reality must only spring from the intellect of the lower ego and therefore displays a fractured perception. 

If what you say is true then Jesus and Guatama should have kept silent after they attained enlightenment.  They probably would have had their detractors saying to them... : eg.

"Guatama, you betray your ignorance by telling us anything at all.  Your thoughts which you put into words are not the undifferentiated ONE and therefore cannot have originated therefrom and cannot be of any value to us.   Empty your mind of such limiting nonsense Guatama... Enough of your metaphysical mumbo jumbo!.. Give us the ONE noble truth and the ONEFOLD path to enlightenment or give us nothing at all!  Silence man!"  [Gautama taught the 4 noble truths and the 8 fold path and much else during his 40 odd year ministry]

Feedbaxlow, haven't you ever been transported into higher consciousness as a result of an inner recognition of concepts conveyed in the written or spoken word?   Do you read in bed?  Have you ever placed the book down on your breast when the spirit has swelled within you and demanded your undivided attention?  Yes those experiences are beyond the written word but they are catalysed by it, especially when the word itself is presenting concepts which originate in the higher Mind.   There will always be ever higher realisations of spirit as the lower frameworks are outgrown.  But the conceptual frameworks are useful in the process of spiritual growth and are really only dispensable when we are fully transmuted into spirit.  Unless you are fully identified in Spirit and have transcended even the need for the lower vessels of expression you could be missing something useful by insisting that it's all just "excess baggage."

The higher mind is BOTH within thoughts AND beyond them.   My experience shows me that the higher Mind can be active within cognition and within the emotional body.  What do you think we have a mental and emotional body for?  Is it just for the lower cognition of fruity loop brain activity and carnal desire?   The temple "made without hands" is a fitting vessel for the most High consciousness.  It is a framework concieved in the Divine Mind. 

I will dare say that i believe some people have misunderstood the meaning of the following statement :

"Divine consciousness is beyond cognition and concepts."

I have found that to be true but only insofar as it refers to the conceptualisations, desires and thought processes of the lower- ego / monkey mind / carnal mind.  However we are fully capable of divining inner truth and communicating it to some degree through concepts.  Can a mental grasp of truth concepts prove higher consciousness?  No.  Does the higher Mind transcend beyond what the vessels of mind and emotion can contain?  Yes, but these vessels [of mind and emotion] can CONTAIN truth and they can CONVEY it... spiritually and conceptually.  Even though the reader must pass it through their own heart to confirm it [or not] by personal oneness with inner Spirit.

What i am trying to say is that the Spirit,  in order to MANIFEST in the material plane,  uses the divinely created framework of containers. [It is valid to describe this framework.]  The 4 planes of matter are those containers... every atom and cell ... physical, emotional, mental and etheric.  So too is the christ Self and chakra system.  The knowledge of these things are not irrelevancies to be discarded as "excess baggage."  When 'reaching' for the spirit' we cannot simply dismiss the conceptual framework in which it appears.  This is why i mentioned that it would be a shame if some people dismissed valid concepts.  If a person with the spiritual attainment of Christhood or Buddhahood spoke about these concepts they could too easily be dismissed by some people who believe it is delusionary to be concerned with such things.

If the essential Spirit wasn't supposed to appear in the Buddhic, Christic and material framework [and express through it] we wouldn't even be here.  This place and our presence here are conceptual frameworks which cannot be denied.  They must be defined by higher consciousness at the same time as we surrender the false concepts of the lower ego.  The middle way demands it.

Re: Stuart Wilde

lyra wrote:

Alcohol, drugs, Aya, what have you, they seem to be "mask removers," and reveal what's really on the inside.

I couldn't agree more. I don't buy that 'I'm so sorry, I was drunk, I wasn't myself' bit. Intoxicants show who you really are, no mask involved.
   It is quite clear that Stu is a serious drinker as well as a user of various hallucinagens. This has never been my problem with him. Alot of times, living in this mudane world is like swimming through molasis. This is a reality war. The reality of the day, I find quite appaling. You need to wade through a tremendous amout of etheric crap and mediocrity to subsist in the mundane world. It can take it's toll on a person. Imagine the geometry of everyday life built like legos to squeeze the maxium amount of life force from people with the minnium amount of spirit. If you want to exist in that, you better be prepared to pay the price. The more outlandish your character, the more you need to prop it up or it will be extinguished in the torrent of controlling forces.
   There are waves and waves of energy out there, a whole sea of them washing over you at all times.
   I've got no problems with people who lean on substance abuse as long as they are willing to fiddle with it and not get too crazy. But the older you get, the more careful you need to be before your biological form starts to check out. Water, exercise, and moderation are the names of that game. And we all know how Stu feels about yoga. Sheesh, I find the best way to cleanse the body of negative emotions stored up is a good S T R E T C H.
   Silly Brits.
   Stuart Wilde. He's a major player in the reality war, and the more major you get, the more attention you attract. I still read his stuff and identify with it. And being a clown by both profession and nature, I can't help but respect the contradictions he lives out. The best way to know a path is to follow it's opposite for a while.
  But the more attention you attract the more they come after you.
  Don't trust Stuart Wilde. But don't blame him either. If you stepped up to the limelight, you would be devoured too. Like Don Elkins, or Michael Topper. The slow decline of SW is like watching the slow decline of Laura Knight and her minions. Good folk, but under too much attack. In many ways I salut them. And I also watch them so I don't make the same mistakes.  And as the clock ticks we will be under the same attack at them. So look and learn and try to understand.
   Happy fighting...

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Grey Cat wrote:

Don't trust Stuart Wilde. But don't blame him either. If you stepped up to the limelight, you would be devoured too. Like Don Elkins, or Michael Topper. The slow decline of SW is like watching the slow decline of Laura Knight and her minions. Good folk, but under too much attack. In many ways I salut them. And I also watch them so I don't make the same mistakes.  And as the clock ticks we will be under the same attack at them. So look and learn and try to understand.

Happy fighting...

You know, I think that this is right-on, and is similar to something someone said a few pages back. When we start to transmute our lower selves and recognize the light that is coming in and that we can use to become who we are, the stuff comes on strong, whether through dark shadowing as lyra discusses or the network of egoistic materialism that we have all dealt with and that is referred to as agents or OPs and so forth. Those things will be triggered in proportion to the advancements that a soul/person is making and especially if trying to assist others to break through to another reality. Everything comes at us/ them. I would not want to add to the attacks that these people are already undergoing. SW probably has enough attacks going on by his own followers and whatever is attached to them and working unconsciously. Look at what was triggered just on this thread. How can we keep connecting with our own light and the energies coming in if it is so dangerous to even work with a group at this point, and always allowing oneself to be open to attack. How can we connect with others of like consciousness when anyone, anywhere, anytime can turn on us, funnel in the dark side? I've had my own anxiety attacks over this-lala

don't judge a book by its name

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GreyCat wrote:

Ha! Good posts AO!
   The alure to SW was that he often explained exactly the same phenomena that was happening to me. The 'dry rain' sort of morph world that I see each time I close my eyes. Visons, Greys knocking at your door, they are not strange experiences to me any longer.
  So I figured that anyone in the game longer than I might have some answers where I just come up blank. But the more I sniff around Stewie, the more I smell a rat.
  I had an image of Stuart as The Wizard of Oz. A cheery sort of Snake Oil dealer doing both harm and good. But at least he points poor Dorthy in the right direction.
  Oh well, I hate Vegas anyway....

ah hah ha ah....gosh when the rat was mentioned l laughed so much my belly wobbled a little....you see one night while watching the 'wilde' play in the smokey room with mirrors' l came out of my little journey and was pondering such 'mysterys or myseries' and l had in my hand a pen and after a while l realized l had drawn a 'scribble', yes what we call in Aussie a 'doodle' of sorts....

What l had drawn was ever so delightfully clear.....a rock, a small aussie bush and a rabbit (Chinese/astrol l am) and she was backed up with her ears lowered and slightly crouched with her eyes of blue piercingly concentrated on something trying to get what she had hidden (babies?)....it is what she was staring at that took my attention, and that was a large grey rat, that was barring its sharp teeth at her....

This was not my first encounter with this fellow....l  have seen him in the mirrors of my reflections with his back turned at me, while a 'spirit/ghost/captured daimon tried to steal my  'lightness' (Etheric Body) from me, but l laughed so much that the Myth dropped me back  on the bed.....Stu was wearing a cut off jean jacket and a cowboy hat....the Shadow is what l felt for the most, as its name must have been captured and now Stu uses it to clasp the unwarys that have  potential...beleive this or not, but l know  its the  truth the truth of so many scammers, not scamps, he likes dogs l gather....l remember saying aloud, WOW when the Shadow picked me up....It was the Shadow that my heart is worried about...

The Shadow comes to me when l am mostly sad with the tears  and antics of my fellow  beings....l have  watched him or her in my room, and spoke to him or her one early morning as l awoke before the sun had completed its wink above the forest trees....He or She was  sitting on my bed....perhaps just as lost and lonely as l was, so long ago...

After the men came and burnt the rainforest all around me, l began to weep so  much, l could feel the deep 'sadness' in  me, and l knew that if l didnt snap out of it, l  too would become just as lost and afraid of mans harsh cruelities....l guess l must have needed to understand this odd and sad feeling....that night, l went to sleep, tired so tired of this world of fightings....l saw instantly a deep dark indigo blue or purple swirling  in my vision....and then l began to speed up as if l was in warp .... and there in front of me was this Shadow....

My tears were still raining down my face, yet l was not crying....This Shadow reached out for me, tho  l could not say it was arms, yet still it was an embrace that l have  never felt before in a human life....The Embrace was one of confidence, one  of assurance and strength beyond any feelings of love that l could remember....And so l held on, and gently stroked his or her cheek, if there were such....l guess l  imagined there was and so there is....

From  that day onwards, which was over  7 years ago, my life changed, completely and  is still  changing...

l am given so many storys and these words are poetical in all their writs of movement, you see  l  know  this as l am uneducated in the likes and doings of this  Earthern plan....l  have kept all the maps and symbols and sigils and storys and reams of poetry in a very strange language with me....The storys write themselves for me....one day l may release these 'notes' of 'sound',  l will know when the  timing is perfect....

Your world is magical, and imaginall....and the words that are made up of little letters and sounds become  us...

Words that we use with feelings are ENERGY....

Deeply l  know this like  l know my own self...

Yet unliken to you all here, l  have no beleifs, because, of this, l am allowed to wander and travel to many 'places/realms' and to wonder liken to a child in a womans heart at the grace and beauty of all there is....

One night l was asked to follow my name, and names are like tags, labels of a sort, and as much as l did not want too, it came anyway, and my name means 'grace' gift' own'....'so wot' says me,  and the answer l got was "Godswot"....l looked up this word and it means, A GARDEN OF MANY THINGS'....

And you know wot.....it is.....a garden....a jardin....ahhh din....Heart In.....In Art....is where my heart lies waiting....a maid....am aid...

Reversed it tells me a story....you see, the WORDS AND THEIR SOUNDS are teaching me, and l am ever so excited in a calming...

When my name is sounded it cames as Unknown....

And l like that very much....

Beleive it or Not

Thanks A O.....(parden my dots)



The WISE ART OF AUS  is not a male....

Qua being in the capacity of being

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Re: Stuart Wilde

lyra wrote:

Alcohol, drugs, Aya, what have you, they seem to be "mask removers," and reveal what's really on the inside.

This seems to be a fairly arbitrary judgment to me. I know some decent people who are allergic to drink and get weird.
Although i did enjoy GreyCat's post, i don't know about the getting slimed theory.
Perhaps there is something else that causes the downfall of those not well grounded enough to avoid instability.
Here's some possibilities: Addiction, Pride, Ego, Jealousy, Narcisism, Anger, Depression
I have noticed that our experience is almost entirely chemically related.
Induced agents in the bloodstream allow people to act the way they "want" to anyway.
But what they want to do is almost arbitrary-allowing themselves to react to their conditioning.
If they have been heavily conditioned, they suddenly react in ways that may be surprising, acting out repressed tendencies etc.
Behavior due to specific conditioning, creates a certain chemical balance, if different chemicals are administered, a different set of behaviors are noted. Which is real?
I say none of the above. A variation in chemistry does not necessarily show "who a person is", but what there conditioning is.
from a google of "serotonin":
"More than 100,000 chemical reactions go on in your brain every second! The brain is also a radio transmitter, which sends out measurable electrical wave signals.
Among the brain's many jobs is to be your own chemist. The brain produces more than 50 identified active drugs. Some of these are associated with memory, others with intelligence, still others are sedatives. Endorphin is the brain's painkiller, and it is 3 times more potent than morphine.
Scientific research over the last several decades has led to the revolutionary discovery of opiate-like chemicals in the body that associate with opiate specific receptors in the brain and spinal cord, including Serotonin, a hormone manufactured by your brain."

"The neurotransmitters are dopamine, serotonin, and norepinephrine.
Serotonin is a chemical that helps maintain a "happy feeling," and seems to help keep our moods under control by helping with sleep, calming anxiety, and relieving depression. The brain also makes Dopamine, which makes people more talkative and excitable. It affects  brain processes that control movement, emotional response, and ability to experience pleasure and pain. All of these chemicals are natural chemicals that affect our bodily processes.
Besides being involved in the process of addiction, low Serotonin levels are believed to be the reason for many cases of mild to moderate depression which can lead to symptoms like anxiety, apathy, fear, feelings of worthlessness, insomnia and fatigue. Depression is the nation's most prevalent mental health problem, affecting about 15 million Americans who spend about $3 billion a year on drugs to battle it. Almost all of these medicines target either serotonin or norepinephrine, neurotransmitters."

GreyCat wrote:

There are waves and waves of energy out there, a whole sea of them washing over you at all times.

maybe it's chemicals washing over you all the time

Your feelings are the result of specific thoughts. Your body is responding and preparing for action depending on your thoughts not knowing the difference between the real and thoughts about it.
Think of conflict and confrontation and stress results; preparing you to fight and often resulting in an argument, as the mind is flooded with reactive images and feelings.
Think of sex and the body responds getting ready to act out "love" and of course once stimulated, release is often next sought.

This is the hair trigger ability the mind has to influence body and visa versa.
"Who we are" is mostly conditioned behavior, as is the contents if consciousness.
This is why meditation is usually necessary to calm the mind and slow the flow of neurons that are largely carrying arbitrary information.
Stu just isn't getting what his body/mind is used to getting, until the booze and the Aya starts to flow.
or he is so allergic to booze already that it takes him a while to stabilize (and he often doesn't).
This is not a moral judgment on him or anyone.
But if someone has trouble getting their own balance right i'm not likely to subscribe to what they say or do.

There are those "Gurus" and Masters that are so full of awareness, and stable in that awareness (and the brain chemicals it engenders) that they can take almost anything with no resulting odd behavior.
Ram Dass cites a very famous example: His Guru asked him to see the stuff he was handing 'round and quickly gulped down enough acid to "kill an elephant" and never showed any effect.
Back when i was still smoking weed, and when coming back from a 7day meditation retreat, only several days later would i start to get high again. i was just too high already on my own to get any effect.

BTW GreyCat or anyone- What has been the evidence of a downward trajectory of Laura Knight?

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Re: Stuart Wilde

feedbaxlow wrote:
lyra wrote:

Alcohol, drugs, Aya, what have you, they seem to be "mask removers," and reveal what's really on the inside.

This seems to be a fairly arbitrary judgment to me. I know some decent people who are allergic to drink and get weird.
Although i did enjoy GreyCat's post, i don't know about the getting slimed theory.
Perhaps there is something else that causes the downfall of those not well grounded enough to avoid instability.
Here's some possibilities: Addiction, Pride, Ego, Jealousy, Narcisism, Anger, Depression
I have noticed that our experience is almost entirely chemically related.

There's an awful lot of judging of SW in this thread with many assumptions being made about him, and yours Feedbaxlow are the least of them. If any of what he's being accused of is true, I'd say your possibilities are the first place to look, not that he used to drink or thinks that the ayahuasca ritual (which obviously opened him up to a wider understanding of his reality) is for anyone who has the cash. Perhaps it was just for Stuie to better understand Stuart.
Now he's hot shit again, glowing hot in the realm of those willing to push the limits in the hope that they can better see. The more I think about it, he's using the money thing to keep the hordes at bay. It wouldn't be cool for me if I was doing it (or would it? depends on where the money ultmately ends up), but I don't see where SW is hurting anyone by this. It's a free will choice to sign a check for better access to Stuie.


feedbaxlow wrote:
GreyCat wrote:

There are waves and waves of energy out there, a whole sea of them washing over you at all times.

maybe it's chemicals washing over you all the time

Your feelings are the result of specific thoughts. Your body is responding and preparing for action depending on your thoughts not knowing the difference between the real and thoughts about it.
Think of conflict and confrontation and stress results; preparing you to fight and often resulting in an argument, as the mind is flooded with reactive images and feelings.
Think of sex and the body responds getting ready to act out "love" and of course once stimulated, release is often next sought.

I think our internal chemistry is actually a reflexion of the waves of energy. This is how the waves manifest in 3d. We have our internal waveform, it's buffeted by the ocean of energy as we swim through, and all these waves and patterns morph our chemical soup into a 3d image of our energetic makeup.



feedbaxlow wrote:

There are those "Gurus" and Masters that are so full of awareness, and stable in that awareness (and the brain chemicals it engenders) that they can take almost anything with no resulting odd behavior.
Ram Dass cites a very famous example: His Guru asked him to see the stuff he was handing 'round and quickly gulped down enough acid to "kill an elephant" and never showed any effect.
Back when i was still smoking weed, and when coming back from a 7day meditation retreat, only several days later would i start to get high again. i was just too high already on my own to get any effect.

I love that story. I've remembered that since the first time I read it and related it many times over the years.

We see only the tiniest spectrum of the energy we're being exposed to. All the hallucinogens are doing is removing filters to let more reality in. The guru already has removed these filters, so what's the difference how much he takes? It's the same with your marijuana anecdote. As you settle back into "normal" reality, the filters slowly rebuild themselves, though I'd venture to say they'll probably never be as thick as they were before you knew what it was like to see without them.

That should be the point of the aya ritual and psychedelic experiences. It's stupid to think they're the vehicle to multidimensional awareness. They're the key to a lock that opens a door to a library we can visit. Then we come back, the door closes and we're left with the memories. We don't get to stay and it's turns entirely screwball if we try to visit that library everyday. It's very judgmental for those who've never been to the library, or who went and only found children's books or the gothic horror section to project their subjective and/or limited experience on someone who's walking on the edge of the precipice in the hopes that he or someone else might just find a way to rise above this matrix madness.

Re: Stuart Wilde

feedbaxlow wrote:
lyra wrote:

Alcohol, drugs, Aya, what have you, they seem to be "mask removers," and reveal what's really on the inside.

This seems to be a fairly arbitrary judgment to me. I know some decent people who are allergic to drink and get weird.
Although i did enjoy GreyCat's post, i don't know about the getting slimed theory.
Perhaps there is something else that causes the downfall of those not well grounded enough to avoid instability.
Here's some possibilities: Addiction, Pride, Ego, Jealousy, Narcisism, Anger, Depression
I have noticed that our experience is almost entirely chemically related.


BTW GreyCat or anyone- What has been the evidence of a downward trajectory of Laura Knight?

The 'getting slimed' theory is based up information gleaned from the Ra Material, The Cassiapaean Transcripts, and Michael Toppers writings, along with some of my own personal experiences in dealing with neagative entities. The are many instances explained in these writings that suggest that if you try and spread insight and truth, then the controlling powers will hurl relentless phychic attack at you until you are either extinguished or severley hindered. It would also make total sense to quiet any rabble rousers against your cause.
   Addiction, Pride, Ego, Jealousy, Narcisism, Anger, Depression are all products of these attacks. This is not to say they can't be inherent before the attacks occur. But the fact of the matter is is that human beings are extremley complex entities and we lack the understanding of these phenomena to do anything more than speculate. Which is what I was doing based on the writings of the people above and the strugge with my own addictions that seem to be linked with nasty entities. The simple fact is that knowone knows. Not I, nor feedbaxlow, nor Stuart Wilde probably for that matter...

  As for LKJ's downward spiral. Again a matter of opinion but there has been many duscussions on NR about her. I also have met her personally and can attest that she is in pretty bad shape. Not to mention the fact that she has called me a gypsy blooded, organic portal with no soul. Do a goggle search on Cassiopaean Cult and see what you get.

Re: Stuart Wilde

Hi all, its been a long time since I was here.  smile

When I've been to a SW seminar or fire walk or whatever, I've found that he spends a lot of time "weeding out" people by talking about things that push their buttons: for Christians it was how stupid to follow someone who was crucified - and a death cult; for home owners it was how stupid it was to buy into a postage stamp size piece of land and sign up your whole life paying it off; for others it was something else.  People left in droves.

Another time he came on stage looking absolutely blind drunk, staggering all over the place, slurring his words.  Again, people left in droves.

Once a third of the room had left, as  before, he straightened up, lost his "drunken stance" and said, "okay people, let's get down to the real stuff:".

Lately its been - if you do yoga, you're going to die, etc etc

Well, suppose he's still weeding people out?

"And your truth will set you free!" Cipher

"The intuitive mind is a sacred gift.  The rational mind is a faithful servant.  We have created a society which honours the servant but has forgotten the gift." Albert Einstein

Re: Stuart Wilde

Good observations. The drunken bit sounds like something Don Juan would do. If it's true (and I can't say cause I wasn't there.) then he might be closer to a master than some think.
    I met someone on a SW forum that had been to one of his aya workshops. He proceeded to do the same sorts of things, insulting everyone to push thier buttons. Claimed he was 'confronting thier shadows'. Now, I'm sure he got the idea when Stu tore into him in the very same manner. The thing that was really unimpressing about this guy was that there was an aire of pathetic parrotness to all of his rants. He seemed to be just using a watered down version of the same technique that Stu confronted him with which probably turned him into a wad of cookie dough.
  Example 'well, if you haven't done an aya workshop because it's too expensive, then I say, how much commitment do you have to being truly free?' he would ask. My argument was that if I wanted to do aya, I would head down to the amazon and spend a few years learning the language and searching around and find a good shamam to administer the proper formula.
    It wasn't my 'commitment' that was waning, but my warriness to the vacation resort feel of the whole presentation.
    Basically the boy talked like a self help commercial at 3am on a tuesday. After his aya workshop, he lost 40 lbs. and now, yes ladies and gents, he has finally reconnected with his soul mate, and has already gotten a promotion.
    My argument was that I didn't need a vacation in Brazil to make me realize I was leading my life into a dead end. That I had enough respect for myself to not be 40 lbs. overweight, and that I didn't need a job promotion as I was self-employed.
    After that he went on and on until the whole forum broke up.
    The whole interaction was one of the first that left a bad taste in my mouth on the whole topic. This guys last words were that he was off to the reedeemers club, and he would make a special case to tell Stuie NOT to take me if I applied. I'm glad I use the same username then.
   So what can I say for all this? Well, I haven't been weeded OUT. More like weeded AWAY. I'm sure I'm going to meet this man as we walk in the same circles. At that point I'll look him in the eye and see what I see.

   As for yoga. Wiki says this:
The Sanskrit term yoga has a wide range of different meanings. It is derived from the Sanskrit root yuj, "to control", "to yoke", or "to unite". Common meanings include "joining" or "uniting", and related ideas such as "union" and "conjunction". Another conceptual definition is that of "mode, manner, means"  or "expedient, means in general".

     The version of yoga that Stu is talking about I pretty much agree with him. But having just a bit of experience with the essence of uniting the body and mind to the spirit through physical movements, most importantly stretching, I can heartily say that there is a very profound message there that can only be realized if he were to embark on a similar road. He is probably disenchanted with yoga because he sat in one too many wing nut, fluff and buff, feel good classes.
   

  khatru wrote:
  "There's an awful lot of judging of SW in this thread with many assumptions being made about him, and yours Feedbaxlow are the least of them. If any of what he's being accused of is true, I'd say your possibilities are the first place to look, not that he used to drink or thinks that the ayahuasca ritual (which obviously opened him up to a wider understanding of his reality) is for anyone who has the cash. Perhaps it was just for Stuie to better understand Stuart."

   Stuart Wilde written about his 'binge drinking'. I'm not about to go sifting through books to find the passage where he uses those exact words (and he does.). God's Gladiators also has his attending many a party here and there and being a bad boy. I say good on him for going there. I'm not squeaky clean either and thats just what I need to do.
   I'm more judging him for the experinces I've had with his minions than for anything else. I've seen a few masters surrounded by soul gobbling imps with shiny smiles. If I judged him for drinking, I'd have to do the same for ME as I've been through enough courses in The University of Pure Terror to need a few on more than on occasion.
   If he wasn't called on some of his contradictions, then we would be playing lip service to him. Any man that enters the lime light had better be prepared for attacks on all sides, especially his weakest ones. If his actions are just a clever way of keeping the imps at bay, then he's a genuis.
  Like I said before, I'm sure I will run into this man sometime. Then I will see whats up. I promise to buy the first round...

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Stuie's probably weeding people out of his seminars [after they've paid the entry fee] so he can save on the tea and biscuits at intermission.

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Did you know SW paid $300 grand to possess a particular person a woman...he failed and lost his money, came on one day, all upset on his old sw site, was really pissed off....still l have to tip my tongue to this half greek/english fellow, he sure knows how  to con ya  with a little bit of knowledge and  loads  of charisma...

What was that nursery rhyme again, oh yes, jorgey porgey putdin & pi kissed the ghouls and made dem scrye when de bouys (lifesavers) cum out to play jorgey porgey ran a wayyyyyyyyyyyy....just a little bit of humour

Its not really about a book or books with a name or names ... its about Judging and one can certainly see that this is a misdemeaner of sircumstances that so many have fallen into....

Its his story so let  it be....

Either follow him or do not follow him, but please stop giving away your energy freely to this man...

Unless that is your point of being

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I think we should make it a rule that if you're going to post on the Stuart Wilde thread, then there should at least be some reference to Stuart Wilde or his work in the post.
Now does anyone have anything of interest to say about a Stuart Wilde conference, book, CD or post? I'd be happy for some gossip about the Redeemer's Club.

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ENT Doc wrote:

I think we should make it a rule that if you're going to post on the Stuart Wilde thread, then there should at least be some reference to Stuart Wilde or his work in the post.
Now does anyone have anything of interest to say about a Stuart Wilde conference, book, CD or post? I'd be happy for some gossip about the Redeemer's Club.

lol  I was thinking the same thing.  I even went to Stuie's website to look for any new material so I could come back here and be all, "ANYway, back to STUART WILDE."  But alas, there was no new material.  haha  oh well.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: Stuart Wilde

nexus wrote:

I think i know Stuie's teaching on 'ascension'... escape at 90 degrees to the left of somewhere.

[ Neither did Stuie ENT DOC ... that technically fulfills my obligation.  This thread is about Stu after all]

lala wrote:

Who... Stuart Wil... Huh? I'm sorry, I forgot all about him.

Well at least you guys said his name, so technically you've fulfilled your obligation, I guess.

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Gosh, l have seen so much of Wilber Post (SW) on many boards and forums, meaning the same when it comes to 'gossiping' about him, some  are quite funny and humourous, yet still  l wonder why or wot it is that attacts so many of you to his views ?

He says nothing more than has been written in books for donkeys ages, yet he gets this 'following' and all this ATTENTION from you all discussing him...yep even me now l realize l have to comment....we are giving him our notice,our motion, our feelings, and our thoughts...wowwwww

His motto is .... treat them mean and they will stay keen.....its true

And they will gladly hand over what ever he desires....this is also true...

WHY IS THIS SO???????

l know why.....


Y  now this word is liken to a fork....a tunining fork or also a magnet....not unlike leonardos pointed hand that is shaped like a U or C....you  see?

What you constantly think about ATTRACTS that very notion you are putting motion of thoughts and feelings into....

If we put that same amount of effort into ourselves in improving our own thoughts and watching our own words from  our mouths l would say here that many would be very surprised at their own capabilities.....

People love secrets, and sacreds and mysteries and quite openly misery.....this is also true

Its our nature to want to be different yet seem the same, and that is ego really acting like its a speciality....the ego has its points in being if you didnt have one,  you'd all be easily brainwashed....its well known  in the books  on this subject....

Stuart has always been a control freak....just read a little more deeply into his given words from when he first began his journey...its all there if you care  to investigate....

He reminds me of a little playful boy that has always been seeking a mothers love, and will give it his best shot in b eing noticed and have his name here in this world in the minds of those that followed him....his mark

It will always be your choice to discuss and he knows that, its your choice to follow, and he knows that, it makes absolute sense in a simple way....he is not responsible if you choose....

He has studyed pyschology of human nature and knows what to do and how to apply it.....

My emphasis here......l have met Stue in other realms or what he calls dimensions, and on one of thse visits, he was in a huge house on a cliff and it was full of his 'mates',  his house was sullen and moody and l asked quietly to one of his followers a woman 'whats the matter with this house?'.....She replied, "Stuart is so moody all the time'.....

l felt sad about this a little, and layed down on the Earth, and a crowd came up to me and Stuart was with them, he tried to touch me, as even tho l was laying with my back to him l knew he was trying to reach out....l  stood up without looking at him and walked away....l have no doubt he is a very gentle and kind human that has becaome obsessed with his own  ideas of what  is andwhat is not....in fact l shed a tear for him that night....

And that was before l even knew about him and his ways...later  l  began checking  out sites and found him and learned lots about him...

That was 8 to 9 years ago....

I have seen him in the mirror of my own reflections with his back to me....a  pay b ack perhaps...*smiles*

We have met many times and each time the 'sparks' fly.....this is the one part  l am a little curious about....its a bit like putting one red  positive wire to the negative wire and you all know that causes a 'connection'  lots of little sparks but fairly harmless....

l personally hope with all my heart  that there will come a moment when the 'sparks' become neutral....and are connected together for the greater love that is in us all....

Than k you
Tah A.O

Qua being in the capacity of being