Re: What do you do for a living?

I work as a web designer/developer, have been doing it since 2001.  Before that I worked as a legal secretary for a few years, which was absolutely soul destroying.  I experienced most people in the industry to be very nasty and predatory, most people I encountered liked to prop themselves up on the shortcomings of others - and I was never good at being a secretary, and never cared enough. 
I do love what I do now though, I feel that I'm good at it, and I am respected for it.

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As my brother already mentioned, I recently started working with a friend of the family who does construction and general contracting. I'm good with my hands, learn really quick, and like to do a fast but thorough job which is good in this kind of work. I would actually prefer some hard muscle-building indoor/outdoor manual labor over the same routine in front of a desk/computer etc. It's also an apprenticeship, because I can learn the skills to go off on my own, which is actually what my friend and I are going to start doing almost immediately, build our own business and be our own bosses wink

I think physical work is better then the mental type, because you can think about whatever you want while you work, get physical exercise, and it can help keep you from getting too stressed out mentally.

My aforementioned friend was also taught by his father how to do the whole construction thing, but currently makes most of his living "redistributing" marijuana (I dislike the negative stigma of "drug dealer" LOL) I would do it too if I could (OK $, easy "work", loose schedule), but I would be more suited to actually growing it. big_smile

It's funny how that came out, without any regard to how illegal it is...rofl

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I used to do 3d graphics and animation, but these days I make most of my income from web design & development and I'm trying to get more into consulting because I find the technical aspects of web design to be quite tedious most of the time.

I'm freelance and have been for about 5 years, so I usually work from home, wherever home turns out to be, which has been 3 different places in the last 12 months, and I'm moving again very soon.

I'm very fortunate that all my clients have conscious businesses so I always feel like I'm doing something worthwhile! Some of my current clients include a natural health college, a well known author who writes about natural health, a Massage magazine in the UK, and a life(shift) coach.

Said Life coach has just made all his books available as e-books and are definitely worth a look. They're basically about finding your passion and escaping the ratrace to do something worthwhile. See: www.lifeshift.co.uk

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I'm a professional acrobat and entertainer. I've been doing it for 15 years now. I left college where I was majoring in all sorts of things (astrophysics, history, philosophy.) but got bored with academia. I was lucky, as the path of the fakir pretty much choose ME. I'm my most centered and concentrated when I'm working with my body. Luckily the world still pays to see people do amazing things.
   I've worked the streets for years (where you make the most money, trust me.) but I've done everything from sideshows to Cirque du Soleil (three year tour of asia/pasific.).
   Initially I wasn't really sure WHY I was drawn to the circus, but after many years and many trials, I began to understand. Circus works the mind, the body and the spirit. The mind to find the work, understand the movements, and to teach them to others. The body for the obvious reasons. And most importantly the spirit. There are many circus artist that cannot emote. They either don't know how, or don't have anything to give. But when your on stage, in that moment, people are watching you and they are much more psychic than they know. A good performer will take it's audience to another place where they are fearless and real.
  I struggle alot, like most of the known world. And alot of the time I don't know where my next dollar will come from. But I thank my interests in History. Most of the history of civilization has been filled with more strife, uncertainty, and  toil than I ever have or will...and I just finished touring in a traditional circus, pounding tent stakes, doing two shows a day, for 12 weeks straight with no days off.
  I've had two surgeries, one of which was done under the table, in a x-doctors office with parts he got at the hardware store. Despite this, I'm 34 and look 10 years younger. Most acrobats I know have a 10 year career path, maxium. But I don't know, theres just something about cultivating the will and the body, and harnessing the spirit to do such, that makes it an amazing adventure I don't want to stop.
So you see, for survival reasons I CAN'T hold any tension or negative emotions in my body. So I had to learn to access and release them or I would have broken years ago. I almost have, and each time I've learned something more profound than a hundred self-help books.
  Like you, I cannot make millions for some suit up high. It just seems...dirty. A day doesn't go by where I don't think about my own death...and I'm curious as hell to see where THAT will lead.
  The only advice I could give would be forget about finding happiness through material comforts. You body will adjust to toil as long as it is nourishing your spirit. So move to indonesia and start a cafe, become a gardener in hawaii, go on an adventure and dream BIG. Society (especially america.) is designed to smother dreams. Movies, magazines, news papers bombard you with fear and meodicrity. I say bollocks to it....


   As Nietzsche said: "By my love and hope I conjure unto thee, cast not away the hero in thy soul, hold holy thy highest hopes!"

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DarkStar wrote:

and I hope it didn't sound like I was bragging.

If somebody from NR reads your post and feels that you're bragging, that's their own ego insecurity, which is their problem, not yours. (and I'm sure seeking the truth isn't thinking that after reading your post anyway....)  But in general we should be able to talk about what we do or the things that are happening to us in a positive, enthusiastic way, especially if we're succeeding or enjoying ourselves, and not worry about "being the peg that stands out above the rest" who gets pounded down because unhappy people don't want to see others around them succeeding and enjoying life.  Instead of being jealous and resentful, interpreting the enthusiasm as "bragging," they would be better off being inspired, and changing their lives so that they too can be enthusiastic and having a good time.   So stand tall. smile  I think your post was fine, and I totally had imagery in my mind of what you were describing with the porpoises, remembering my own brief waitressing gig at a beachside hotel restaurant in south Florida. Your job sounds like fun, and I think you're lucky!

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Thanks Carissa (lyra)!  You little sweetie, you!

"I (may) not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."
        -Voltaire

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Hey Seeking

When our boy was about two we tried the public daycare thing.  It was against our better judgement but we did it anyway because we both had full time jobs.  It lasted all of about two months.  In that short period of time he had stopped eating (except ice cream), stopped sleeping (naps and at night), stopped talking, was back in diapers, back on the bottle and absolutely miserable.  He was a mess.  He had little bags under his eyes and everything.  It was awful.  So obviously daycare was not an option.  One of us had to quit and that was that.  We knew we'd be broke(r) but better that then to have this sad little man moping around the house.  What good is a little extra money without "chit-chats" and laughter and care-free chubby arms thrown around your neck?  My advice?  Forget "work".  You already have a job.  And a tough one at that.  There's nothing out there that could pay you enough to stop doing what you're doing.  If your DH has forgotten that then it sounds like he needs a reminder.  I'm not saying this from the homemaker's perspective either.  I kept my job.  I did it for ten years and I knew why he was home and how important it was for him to be there.

BTW, have you seen/read The Peaceful Warrior?  If not, I think you should.  There's a scene where the kid says to the guy all snotty, "Who are you to tell anyone what to do?  You work at a gas station!", like it's something to be ashamed of.  The guy answers him, "No, I work at a service station.  What could be nobler than that?"  (It goes something like that anyway.)  So I say if you don't want to be entirely financially dependent and need a little pocket money for yourself, go out and be "The Peaceful Waitress".  wink

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double the "HEY Seeking!"   i was thinking of actually--both u two.  u and lilmomma.  and i'll be darned--nixie too.  ur on track.  strength strength strength.  searching and seeking and always improving, and cutting thru the muck and mire.  i started out watching my mother care for ppl.  i was 3.  i couldnt go up and down stairs with both feet.  too little and off balance.  had to do it the old one foot stays on the step with the other, as one goes down, and up.  took a long time.  step by step.  she was a nurse's aid, took me to work with her.  she was a real RN but they wouldnt graduate her since she was pregnant by her first husband that she had divorced.  secretly.  they punished women/nurses real bad in those days.  i threaded the old ppl's needles.  they couldnt see anymore.  the wife of the janitor i found out later at my elementary school was dying there then.  in it was in the blood to be a healer, caregiver, she took me with her and i saw her bliss.  the ecstasy she had for healing.  for service in that mode.  it was to BE.  and i took it thru EVERY STEP there was.  started out to replace a friend with a broken leg at a nursing home.  passed out meds to hundreds a nite, at age 17.  did all the "treatments."  ran a crew of older women there.  with only 2 licensed nurses for over 400 patients. (all illegal and ran by the PTB--the county).   made $2.40 an hr.  got a raise--went up to $2.57.  yet, was rich.  had loads of responsibility.  learned pharmacopia, paid for my gas in junior college, which was 50 miles one way.  moved out at 17.  rent was $75.00 a month.  had my 14 yr old sister there and a few wayward roommates thru the yrs there.   took 22--24 units at a time.  included night classes.  went to work in the am washing dishes in the basement of a hospital, before that.  later ran whole hospitals, whole complex medical systems with several hospitals/medical centers in them.  big exec.  used to drive to school in illinois, in snowdrifts 5 ft high, on solid sheets of ice, in blizzards.  went anyway.  just did it.  worked full time going thru grad school.  running hospitals while doing that too.  always the hard way, the most stringent and rigorous.  more training of a gladiator.  got a ton of what i call--legitimized paper behind me, under me.  proving all of it.  grad school done, post grad done.  thats not the point tho, altho clearly, i paid my dues.  not even the half of it.  up and down those steps.  good to know that even the best laid plans have underlying realities one doesnt expect and i thot i was not naive.  how wrong i was.  i did not realize how deep the rabbit hole went, or how sick the bizness of healthcare really was, and who were the illuminati, even tho id worked in it my whole life.

the REAL deal is that i figured way way back that nobody NOBODY would ever carry me.  im not the carrying kind.  i carry others so i had to find something that would pay--no matter what or where.  us 3 kids learned real quick in our environment that while those 2 were at war with each other, we'd have to carry on despite. early sense of survival alone.  what will always support me?  what will always be there?  what will ppl need, always?  what could i do for money if i was to crashland in quatemala?  thats how i used to think then, still do.  i thot-- and this is weird--women will always menstruate and ppl will always be sick.  what could i do with those facts? always went for facts first.  the parents were good at that--do not trouble us kids.  all is expendable.  everybody was dis-attached kinda.  and were not responsible for u guys pretty much.  they were 2 strange but loveable ducks.   and i was already at the nursing home for gas money.  u could eat and buy ur cigs there.  they left the water in the mac and cheese to make it thicker and go 'round.  they had a commissary.  it was the old folks home and old county poor farm as they used to call it in the 1800's.  lots of old guys with their legs shot off, TB pts with most of their chest gone.  i loved it there.  i used to go to school, then drive there, and work til after midnite.  get up and get to school 50 miles away in the AM, then do it all over again.  did the night classes so it would work out that i did doubles on week-ends.  worked sometimes 3 and 4 days,  numerous shifts, in a row.  smoked and drank and everything else like a fiend.  partied continuously all thru it.  can remember sharpening my pencil in nursing school at 7AM in a hallway readying to take 2 back to back tests that would make or break graduation (old diploma school AFTER the first college and they sent us to another there so theres 2 degrees with a diploma RN thing from just that.  lived in a dorm with 17 yr olds straight from the farm.  i was 22, and wild.  it was hell)---so hungover, that i had to hold onto the wall and the pencil sharpener to stand up.  whiskey breath so bad i coulda knocked over a few truckers.  in lots of pain having to have to do this.  oh the the discipline to do it.  wasnt gonna let that crap wreck my social and experimental transcendence "calender" tho.  oh no.  we must party on and get an A anyway.  thats just the way it was.  trained mind.  all done to lead me eventually to the practice of medicine, as planned with my own office, i thot.  ultimately be an independent provider.  all those yrs i planned that.   big joke.  all was to end in a joke.  and i went all the way thru it, planned it all, it took over 13 years, with just the classes needed.  thats just the requirements, linearly.  one must also have yrs of experience to prove one is advanced.  so thats over 35 yrs now, with 10 yrs in the NP role now.  only to realize i'd be in enemy territory and not in a hospital or similar setting anymore where all is heavily regulated, went right in to enemy camp.  didnt know how that went.  found out soon.  unless nurses can get money for their services DIRECTLY from the patient, there will always be the/a pimp.   thats what i found when i got to the end.  so thats why i say im a whore.  all nurses will come to this conclusion, sooner or later.  i did long ago.

so here i was--in a SERVICE CYCLE.  was a temple prostie, had been remembering it once i got to the end.  realized how that was healing in thr past, all that weaved together.  when i really got it was when i began to reject my pimps in the new setting.  wanted to kill 'em.  finally got it REAL good when i worked in offices for "the man."  the man owns the world.  now on par with the big boys.  yet always reminded "NOT".  not welcome there.  began getting it when directly remembering pastlives as they bled thru.  the man doesnt like competition. too powerful, the ppl wanted to see me instead of them.  used my skills and 'potions', ppl were better overnite.  its the touch and the intent too.  the PTB dont like that--one bit.  it helped me see who i am, and why, and whats gone on.  it was there all along.  service.  shown to me by the HS.  insisting on all the LEGITIMIZED PAPER was symbolic, a test.  all the yrs, licenses, degrees,certifications.  THAT WAS WHY.  see the big play there to "make it right."  to clean it up and bump it up.  all disciplinary tests to get me to see all around and to prove if i wanted that cycle to end or not.  i got it and understood.  loved it that i had the power, knowledge.  but then when i realized the lone onus that i wasnt gonna have my own gig (illegal in CA) and that every single deal set up in the medical community is/was/has been designed to thwart nurse practitioners at every turn (insurance companies wont let u in, medicare pays at a fraction of the physician rate for the same services, not allowed to sign a death certificate or do a physical for a handicap placard, all on whim and legislation that changes overnight by TPTB.  some yrs its ok, then they change it.  treated like shit, used to do volume, told what to do by 5 dollar an hour medical assistants and the wives in doctor's offices, shunned by the pharmaceutical companies but write prescriptions all day.  blah blah blah)  i realized i dont DO PIMPS and ive hooked/serviced long enough.  so i see crats in there, the mission, how it began, and how it stands today.  it all tied together.  understood finally, why i despise false authorities. killed me more than once.  i was again, with the priest caste, but never legit enuf.  never good enuf.  i grokked it.

so i go to places that dont screw ME now.  i give SERVICES for money exchange. i cant change the status quo.  i race home to go on NR.  i live on the net pretty much everyday, since i gave up whoring.  i study now.  only lend my services when i feel like it.  purely do TEMP.  carved out a niche.  showed others how to do it, which secretly ruins the status quo from within, insidiously.  raises the bar.  yet, no investment anymore, what a surprise.  just in the pts, who literally 'belong' to the priest caste.  ur used to heal them, but theyre not "yours."  theyre commodities, traded, bought and sold.  if the public only knew.  always still at motel 6.  and every now and again i end up at the marriott.  and the sheets are clean.  its all been way grand since i woke up.  ur enemies can teach u lots.  i love to fix, heal, patch up, ppl.  i fix ppl "other providers"  screw up.  yep.  and im happy now that i take the money quietly.  and not as an employee.  i found the balance.   I CONTROL "it."  i have friends that r of the priestly caste.  so it works out.  never been happier, or fatter.  live good.  made that happen.  gift to self.  woulda had at least one PhD and an EdD by now, but saw the crap and couldnt do that anymore.  dont have the 6 bedroom house.  no--then id have to work and i learned to despise that.  working for masters, pimps, corps.  more theory to study?  a nursing PhD that focuses on?????  come on.  not what its cracked up to be.  be in academia and play those politics?  even in my short teaching adjunct university stints i go against the grain.  not ur typical instructor babe.  (i notice they havent called me this yr).   spew out metaphysical insights to all of them tho.  patients and students alike.  get em to think, wake a little, re-arrange their thinking.  charismatically.  saved money, every dime thru the yrs--just waiting for hard times, just in case.  just in case i'd have to crashland in quatemala.  always a fallback to save the self.  take complete and utter responsibility for the self.  big disappointment but made the best of it.  oh well.  took yrs to get over it.  im all done with it now, decreased bitterness, watch and observe. 

in short (haha) none of this worked out EXACTLY like i planned and im one helluva planner. STEP BY STEP i paid and EARNED my way. would never have believed i did all this (worked every holiday or week-end when ppl were having fun with their families and loved ones, ran the streets at midnite when i got off duty which aint the best pickins for looking for mates/lovers after working PM's, always on duty, giving and giving and making everything alright for others).  i chose it.   the awakening of what i got myself into was a major turning point in my evolution.  and thankful for it.  turned out better really tho, than i wouldve ever guessed or projected.  if i wouldve stayed the old route id still be an exec, or a tenured professor.  glued to the career and compromising.  i dont do that anymore either, barely.  (watch michael moore's Sicko movie--i havent yet and why need to?  i LIVE IT) and u get it.  F'in crooks.  i have to stay as far from that as possible while still in it, straddling the reality of it in very short and planned bursts.  more now as a knowing neutral observer.  this is where my real heart lies anyway--studying metaphysics and the science of the soul.  yet applying it to everyday practice.  cant be around nor support demons every day.  its draining and will kill.  BUT i go in and out of it with personal power.  shielded.  i at least like to think.  and now i stay off the frontlines as much as possible. it no longer defines me. "the career"  puke.  it isnt my life's work.  anymore.  stay home the rest of the time, where its peaceful, fun, quiet, safe, CLEAN, and loving.  set up my own king/queendom.  jump in the pool that i built, from service money.  and i think all the time, about what im gonna research next and tie together and maybe post on.  sink it into the recesses for later.  will use it all.   how to get on out of here, knowing what i know, now.  uncover the divine secrets.  it couldnt have worked out better.  who woulda thot?!  not tied to career, an image, a job, a cycle.

so--is it a SERVICE or a PRODUCT, Seeking?  i'd first look at it intellectually and break it down that way.  what is it that can be done from home, that ppl NEED that u already do?  and do well?  that U ALREADY DO?  the key is in that.  can u shop for other ppl and buy organic for them?  and charge them and show them how.  or tutor their kids if ur good at that and i think u are.  or cook for them and send it over?  or do muffins from organics and send out for sale or pick up from home if u cook well.  set up rain barrels for them.  be an organic provider in ur own realm.  or write like u do for locals or for ur paper or local?  or even hang their laundry out on lines and sell urself as an organic home service and thats ur "product."  can u run a support group that helps other ppl out of what u found with ur own illness.  like that?  ill keep thinking of things.  its all there, only for u to pick and run with.  ur dreams too of the flooding represent this and the times ur going thru.  its just a holdover period.  all will change again and again.  ur in a temp pattern.  its all TEMP anyway.  and that gives relief, instead of grief.  all will 'tilt', again.  ur HS is telling u WATER.  it cleanses.  it floods, it purifies, its a new beginning.  u will figure it out.  we will help u from the tribe here.  just to talk about it is helpful, i realize.  ideas will FLOW.  just like WATER.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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Thanks so much for all the great responses!  I don't have time right now to respond to each one separately, but I wanted to show my gratitude for you guys taking the time to help.

Wonderful ideas from wonderful people!

Tomorrow I should have time to respond to certain things.  I'm busy going a little insane right now, but hey, maybe Monday will be a better day! smile

Hey Greycat!  My son would love to hang out with you!  He wants to be an acrobat, himself. smile

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my wife and i are starting our own graphic design business after both getting laid off within the space of a month ealier this year. it's exciting and scary at the same time (as most lifechanges are). we've had some work in, got some work done (website, collateral, stationary) but really need to get the word out.

the scenario we are working towards is to make enough to be able to devote spare time to making music and setting up a small label online.

before that i had a 2 year stint at a Jewish Newpaper and in England I worked for a home interest magazine for 8 years then after a break freelanced for a couple.

in a former life i was an electrical draughtsman.

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It's funny.  I came downstairs to my room with the intent on meditating for gudiance on a way to get out of my job.  My job is pretty good, good pay, relaxed environment, I can space off at work a lot or email friends (Of course I am not supposed to be doing that), but I can't stand just sitting in front of a computer screen 8 hrs straight trying to force myself to do something that I find as pointless other then it makes me money.  I have said since I got this job that it will be only temporary, and that the corporate life is not for me, but the only time when I can get the motivation to actually do something towards moving my working life in a different direction is at work, when I of course cannot search for other career paths. 

Another negative about my job is that there it is a like an emotional vacuum where you can literally watch the personality suck from the new employees, as voices become monotonous, and laughs are incredibly creepy.   Interestingly I found myself angered and jealous at a new hire who was working at our company.  This particular individual was unaware of the unspoken rules that emotions are not to be shown, voices are not to be above a hushed tone, and most importantly you are not sound like you are enjoying yourself.  Anyway I was sitting at my desk thinking devilshly to myself, "Don't worry he'll break soon"  Like half a day later I was reflecting on that thinking "My god what am I doing?  I should be trying to enjoy myself rather then wishing that he wasn't having any fun like me."  So I vowed to try and learn his secret, and sychronisticaly enough the same day I made this decision I started a new project working with this guy. 

I also have a boss who is the most stressed out person I have ever met.  He speaks his words in a huff, like he is trying to whisper after running a marathon.  His laugh is the most creepy cackle, and whenever he talks to my my skin starts to itch and I myself begin to stress out.  I find that when I am in a meeting with these guys I have to fight to not stress out even if there is nothing stressful at all taking place. 

I am wondering personally if it is not really a new job I need, but more the strength to follow my dreams and go against the grain.  I know I could be successful at a lot of things that I would love to do, I just don't have the guts to stand up and do it.  Well its time to meditate on a new career path. 

Best of luck to you Seeking.

"...But Nothing is Lost:" "Nothing lasts... nothing lasts. Everything is changing into something else. Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track. William Blake said nothing is lost and I believe that we all move on." - Terrence McKenna - Shpongle - But Nothing Is Lost

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Most things I have done for employment have been in one service oriented job or another.  From waiting tables to being a personal chef and event coordinator to logistics.

Currently, I'm coming out of "retirement" heh. Sounds funny.  Anyways about a year ago I closed my computer company because of several stress related issues.  Most of those issues are now resolved and I actually opened a pc repair shop again last week.  It's good.  I have been serving this area for about ten years now and people know and trust me and my work.  They are also very glad to see me back in operation and even though I have officially been open only two full days so far, I have quite a bit of business.  Basically I am a problem solver for people.  I find or create solutions for people and implement them.  I am also a web programmer and now develop PHP applications and am a Unix Administrator and web host. 

I actually very much enjoy the work and working with languages and computers, sometimes though, people are a little much to handle.  That is usually just the very negative and generally angry people.  Who are apparently in a perpetually tumultuous state.  Such as this one lady that comes to me for help every so often.  She is so unhappy every time she talks I taste sulphur in my mouth.

Funny though. Until recently I have never really looked upon work as work.  I mean to say that to me employment is a part of life.  Whether I was working on AS/400 systems in factories or waiting tables at a greasy spoon or even in an elegant fine dining establishment...even when I worked construction, and worked on ranches out west... not a lot of it seemed like work.  Sure, I was tired a lot of days, banged up and bruised in some cases but... I am lucky maybe... whatever I have done whether out of choice or pure necessity, I've never really "hated" or very much disliked what I did.  Possibly this is due to growing up in a household of entrepreneurs.  Maybe it was because I had a child when I was 17 and was divorced when I was 18 and have never really had reliable help on the raising a child thing...basically learning to be happy and grow where I am planted rather than fighting what is.

Some days...and even most days...when I think I'd rather be doing something else, I cannot imagine what it would be.  I am thankful for the experiences I have had and even when times were rough there was always something good out of it.

I'm also not sure what the bringing together of two lives together means for others.  I started on my path of magic when I was 12...all the metaphysical stuff started when I was 4 or so.  To me, it's all part of one life...one world.... I do not distinguish between magical me and other people....at least not to the extent that some people seem to do.  Some people seem to draw these invisible lines and divisions, as if we do not already have enough.

I have worn what I consider a magical symbol on a necklace for as long as I can remember.  Some people feel this symbol is religious, some demonic or related to Satanism.  Some insist it only belongs in certain schools of thought or certain magical beliefs.  I have never been too concerned what it means to others, what it means to me is all I need to know or be concerned about.  But in wearing this symbol I have learned that people are generally more tolerant than they are given credit for.  Also, it has lead to a great many good acquaintences and friendships and conversations and I think that in that way I am helping relieve some of the stigma related to such things...the magical or metaphysical or spiritual (whatever you wanna call it) "world" is not something separate from the rest of tangible reality...in fact...it is through that percieved and incorrect thought that many people have the troubles they have today.  What is of this world, tangible or not, is of this world and should not be hidden away only at home or in some closet or some secret place only spoken of with those of "like kind"... it needs to be embraced and brought out and combined with the rest, as it is anyways.

HAH.  Sorry... I kinda went on and on there.  I also write books, poems and short stories and have in the past taken side jobs as an editor, proofreader and ghost writer of several ... I guess spiritually related books and also some technical manuals and program manuals.  That stuff was pretty satisfying actually and my ghost writing jobs were a lot of fun and good pay to boot.

You know, sometimes when we are searching too hard we need to just let it all be.  Because I am a natural problem solver I guess I see situations like these a bit differently.  When one is searching for a solution too hard, thinking about it too much, they seem not to come as easily.  Just as they say as soon as you stop searching for something, it shows up.  I have had this happen to me from time to time.  Actually for about 7 months here I have had a very hard time.  But I was reminded of all of this and my own innate abilities as they pertain to the universe and my life and time.... that a good portion of the time, instead of figuring out what to do or what should happen, if we just let it all happen, don't fight, the universe let's us know when to do and what to do...and more, what is right.

Good luck smile

Re: What do you do for a living?

Lyra---That's a really cool temp job you had! I would have loved it.  I hope I didn't come across as someone who looks down on temping, because that was not my intention.  Actually I've worked at numerous temp agencies throughout my adulthood. Nothing wrong with that!  It's just that I'm at a different phase now.  Like I said, I have personal reasons for not wanting to go back to that biz.  I think it's fabulous that you've made it work for you! smile

But anyway, I think one issue for people who are disillusioned with work is that they mistakenly believe that they really only have two options in life:   It's either 1) "Find your passion and make money off of it!" (no offense, but I don't know why that irritates me and makes me want to roll my eyes....probably because it's cliche, and I've seen too many people chasing after that concept in such a desperate way) or   2)  Be a Matrix pod person who's trapped in a full time soul-sucking job until you die.  The end.

Well, I hadn't realized that it was a cliche.  Woops!  Damn, I thought I was being original with that one. wink  And I don't believe I'm 'disillusioned' with work.  But really, I don't see how we can get back to community and local living if people don't stop mindlessly working for other people doing things they hate.  How many people do you know who are truly happy and successful? If you know any, then ask them if they're doing what they love.  If they're being honest then you'll probably get a 'Yes' out of them.  Again, the concept itself is just fine. But when it's not executed to its full potential, then indeed it may seem that people are desperate.  We all know that most people are miserable. And why is that? Well, besides having the wool pulled over their eyes, they've also succumbed to workin' for the Man.  They ignore their hidden talents and desires. They say "Well, it's not meant to be. I'm not good enough. Yada, yada."  So people are zombified and suppressed and not very happy.  Thus, all the violence and hatred that runs rampant thru the world.  IMHO, it's not too idealistic to envision a truly free society where we barter and buy amongst ourselves, instead of the neighborhood Wallyworld.  TPTB have made it too easy for society to be complacent and lazy and unhappy.  Makes good looshing grounds, indeed. wink

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Soloflecks wrote:

I never figured out what I wanted to do, maybe because I always felt like a stranger in a strange land.  Even now, if I could do anything I'm not sure I'd be able to figure it out.  I'm sure that sounds very odd, and I just can't exactly explain it.

Hey Soloflecks! I feel the same way.  I was the only kid I knew who didn't know what they wanted to do when I grew up.  I always found that odd. But I think it boils down to what you said about a stranger in a strange land.  That's me!  Thanks for sharing. smile

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Treehugger, thank you so much for your sincere reply.  I can really see how I'm not alone; it just feels like it sometimes!  I think your hubby has it right with the portable food biz!  Everybody has to eat, right?  And if doing the cakes was something you enjoyed, why don't you pursue it on your own? You don't really need to work under someone else do you? After 4 years, I bet you're pretty darn good at that. I can agree with the bitchy bride thing, though.  Maybe you can just do specialty cakes, or kids' birthday cakes.

Hell, that's similar to what I was doing before I got sick. They called me the Cheesecake Queen for some time!  That was back when I had passion, and my passion was baking. I loved it and you could tell. It's not that my food was a million times better than anyone else's (though, it was pretty darn good), but everyone loved my food.  And now I know it's because it was always made with love (plus the fact that I was a perfectionist about it).  Every cookie, every cheesecake, every brownie and pie. All made with love.  Then after I got sick, my passion for food left me.  Now it's just a hassle for me to even cook dinner. Pathetic, I know...

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Hey Darkstar!  I think your job sounds great!  And no I didn't think you were bragging!  I would have loved to spend my waitressing stints on the beach with awesome tips, instead of here in the midwest.  My younger years saw plenty of tip work, but nothing like that (well, at least when I waitressed. The other tipped jobs paid better. wink )   Good for you!


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T-Ren wrote:

Define purpose though. Choose any occupation and it can have purpose - a "cleaning person" can have purpose of they seek to raise the vibration level of whatever area they are in. The can chat and carrying on conversations with the intent of waking people up, they can make repeated connections with people or they can choose to clean a person's home for free when they feel the need - who knows what kind of a blessing that could be to someone...purpose I think depends more on YOUR perspective and intent than the actual work being done!

Thanks for bringing that up, T-ren.  I know what you mean. I have a friend who worked at a video store for peanuts, but still loved it because it allowed her to help wake up people who were on the verge anyways.  Thanks for the reminder!

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Lilmomma-----You're a fluids programmer???? WTH?  Seriously?  I would have never guessed it! That's alright though. Gotta be somewhere at some point, heh? Not dissing you, you know... It just sounded strange. smile

I'm glad you were able to work it out so that someone could be at home with your son. That daycare scene can get pretty ugly. That's why I was so adament about my decision.  Thanks for sharing that.

BTW, have you seen/read The Peaceful Warrior?  If not, I think you should.  There's a scene where the kid says to the guy all snotty, "Who are you to tell anyone what to do?  You work at a gas station!", like it's something to be ashamed of.  The guy answers him, "No, I work at a service station.  What could be nobler than that?"  (It goes something like that anyway.)  So I say if you don't want to be entirely financially dependent and need a little pocket money for yourself, go out and be "The Peaceful Waitress".

No, I haven't seen that movie. I will now. wink 

As for the last part: I wish it were that easy.  I do need to become financially independant again. I think part of the reason why I stay sick is because of my marriage. It's not loveless, but it's not passionate. It's more brotherly love.  But I can't become independant until I start bringing in money again (which means being healthy enough to do so), and I can't leave until I can support myself and my son.  It's a big catch--22. 

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Zenden--thanks for sharing your story.  Woman, you've been thru hell and back and never left the 3rd dimension!  My hat is off to you...  Thanks for all the suggestions, too. I will be printing out this thread so that I can read them over again without straining my eyes. I appreciate your support, zen. smile


I just wanted to say thanks to everyone else for your input, though I can't address everybody individually. Running out of steam! tongue

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Re: What do you do for a living?

Seeking the Truth wrote:

I hope I didn't come across as someone who looks down on temping, because that was not my intention.

That wasn't in reference to you.  I was just saying that in general, people think temping is lowly, and even admin girls usually don't want to do it.  They're always looking for temp to hire.  So it was generalities.  Like I mentioned in another thread this weekend, I'm usually pretty specific when I'm addressing comments to people - you'll know if I'm talking about you or referencing something you said because I'll say your name directly or even quote you, and just in general will spell things out.  So you won't have to second guess and wonder that I'm referring to you.  It alleviates a lot of confusion.   Being that you've never stated your feelings about temping, I would never just assume you felt that way and then make comments accordingly.  But I have seen or heard others' opinions on it all, so that's what I was talking about.



Seeking the Truth wrote:

Well, I hadn't realized that it was a cliche.  Woops!  Damn, I thought I was being original with that one. wink  And I don't believe I'm 'disillusioned' with work.

Again, it was a generality.  I've seen that whole "find your passion and make money doing it" before in several places, but I think there are flaws with it.  Even though I myself have written about the idea of not committing ourself to "Illuminati" corporations and trying to go into business for ourselves if possible, I think the "find your passion" thing leads people to think for instance that they can make a living selling beaded necklaces on a blanket downtown, or other random handicrafts, to use one example.  That this will net them all their cost of living expenses, and then some.   In reality it usually nets a person extra fun money at best, but rare is the person who's actually going to make say, 2 grand a month, every single month, making the little handicrafts or other small sorts of endeavors that they have "passion" for.  Sure, it's possible, but probably not very likely.  Also a lot of times what people have passion for isn't something that can necessarily be turned into an actual "career" of sorts that again, will net them all of their cost of living expenses every single month, month after month.   But I might be thinking in a narrow minded way, so I'm not saying my point of view is necessarily right.  I'd actually like to hear from anybody out there who may have been able to do this, the whole finding your passion and making a career out of it.  That would be interesting and motivating if indeed I'm just being a bit narrow here. 

My idea is, what about going into business for oneself providing a practical and much needed service or product to one's community (but not of the "dream logic manufactured industry" variety!  haha) ...........even though it may not be a "passionate" thing necessarily?  It's still taking the power away from "Illuminati" corporations, becoming your own boss, provding real products and services versus the manufactured dream logic variety, and fostering a sense of community.   That's one compromise that's not necessarily talked about.  It's either be the soulless pod person working for someone else, or take some side hobby that one has "passion!" for and try to parlay it into a career that's supposed to make us enough money to live off of permanently.   Anyway, not trying to be cynical in case it sounds like it.  It's just my perspective on it all.....

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: What do you do for a living?

I recently started my own clothing company.  I was having the exact same problem your having and I actually had to stop seeking the truth because I was getting completely lost in my endeavors.  Then it dawned on me through my clothing, why not try and implement a positive movement in the world, most importantly in the youth!? My logic is if I can get a message across to the youth then maybe I can help some people later on.  Thats really all I want to do with this; I hope to awaken a few minds through the company and I have a few ideas to get the word out there about truth sort of indirectly through the clothing for those who pay attention to the designs, names of specific articles of clothing, hidden messages, etc. etc.

If anyones interested in checking out the company you can go here www.auscastclothing.blogspot.com