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Re: Recent Family Tragedies in the News

my damn mouse is dying and putting a major damper on my posting antics.  along with the doggone freezing up crap happening with this old baby.  i refuse to part with her.  but i have some cool stuff to show and have come across.  some new equations, but hooked up with the same old stuff, some new tidbits.  been working too, and that's against the principles.  dont worry Seeking--we have the whiskey/smokes/conversations, (god bless SiriArc), MAJOR recon (love u Z3) barstool seats already reserved and booked at the end of the universe thanks to tom paine.  we will TELL IT ALL then.  since we have what is known as far memory, and long memory.  and we aint forgettin nuthin.  we never have.  the directions r embedded in us.  i think, i KNOW, weve been saving sooooo many things for then.  i'd prefer we do it at an NR conference (my dream) in the now, but if we have to be relegated to the other option, which we were gonna do anyway, then i'll take that.  its a MUST.  and who wouldda thot?  we must have planned this, i feel it.  u will be there, with ur skills, of which reading palms is one of many.   im looking forward to continued comraderie and support from the NR tribe, going on thru cross-over, and im not kidding.  i know my tribe/soul mission group cluster when i see it.  just think of the fun we'll have.  finally BE-ing together.  not that we arent already.  we will go on to make new worlds, just watch, and see.  i could get giddy on this, and am right now.   i live for such things.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"
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Re: Recent Family Tragedies in the News

ehhnus wrote:

Do you, gcg, Tom Paine, and blue really put stock in the positions of the surrounding planets and our planet's position in relation to them?  Would you say that factors like that affect the decisions that you make, or even determine the outcome of things?  Do you feel that we have any free will at all, or that it's all predetermined?  How important is it to you?

I personally don't put that much stock into these readings, I do like Mark's style, he is quite humorous, and that is really what I get out of this, entertainment value. But I am aware (especially from reading Tom (Montalk's) excellent articles on the Moon and it's affect on people, of when these lunar periods are, and therefore I tend to increase my awareness during these times. I never read the daily horoscopes (unless totally bored), which isn't to say that I don't believe that some of these could be of value, it's just that ever since I can remember, I would never let another person influence my life, through this medium, as I could see many people almost running on auto suggestion ("I'm not driving the car today, - my horoscope says beware of accidents!"). lol

As far as life in general, I believe we follow a set path, and along the way we get the chance to make little choices, that can take us off the path,  but the path still ends up where it was supposed to go, in the end. smile

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Re: Recent Family Tragedies in the News

Tom Paine wrote:

The astrologer I use, Chris Hedlund of the
Cosmic Telegram,
says that this Venus retrograde is going through the
Saturn Neptune opposition and his main take on this loop
is that relationships are going through the gauntlet. 
Not just romantic relationships, but all kinds of relationships
are UP FOR REVIEW.  Any relationships that are already
dysfunctional may have meltdowns.  And with what Mark
Kruger said about times being tough, I can certainly vouch
for that being the case.

Mercury is in retrograde as well...until the tenth, and then we had two full moons in the month of June as well. It's suppose to be a very watery moon as well. So that means emotions are running high but communications with people well that ain't so great. (at the begining of this retrograde business both my phone and my car broke down and my 'puter is being really funny.)
Personally my relationships with people have been really good.

This isn't pancheta DAVE!

19 Reply by lilmomma (edited by lilmomma 2007-07-02 10:23:54)

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  • Registered: 2006-07-24

Re: Recent Family Tragedies in the News

Sorry to dump on your thread, ehhnus.  I do feel something of a fool for my little outburst.  Not exactly “enlightened” behaviour but what’s done is done.  For the record, I wholeheartedly agree with you that killing sprees are NOT the answer to “having enough”, although I can see how I may have misconstrued that in my post.  I wasn’t referring to the people doing the killing, more so the people who were killed.  Like the Benoit family for instance, perhaps she had had enough, told her husband so, and he couldn’t deal with it.  It’s a sad fact that there are a lot of women in abusive relationships who risk their lives (and their children’s) when they make the choice to leave. 

I also agree with you that family murders/suicides seem to be running rampant these days.  Again speaking only for myself, I’ve lost two ladies from our family tree to suicide this year (one at the tender age of 13, the other one at age 29) and nearly a third just last week who is only 17, none of whom knew each other as they stemmed from different branches.  Of the three people I’ve talked to about them, each have told me of a recent suicide within their family as well, all mothers. 

These are, without a doubt, trying times.  In the end, I also believe that galactic/astrological events (and dark, deliberate influences) play their part but there seems to be more to it than that lately, as expressed in the Mark Krueger and Chris Hedlund updates.  So many people seem to just “want out” these days.  I’m seeing attacks on self and others everywhere, not just in the news.

Lastly, I want to thank you, ehhnus, gcg, TP, zenden and Seeking, with a FULL and OPEN heart.  (Do you “hear” me?)  I honestly don’t know how things are going to go in the next little while; I guess it all depends on them now.  I’ve definitely reached the love me or leave me stage and, most importantly, made peace with that on my end.

The Byrds - Turn! Turn! Turn!

To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time for every purpose under heaven

A time to be born, a time to die
A time to plant, a time to reap
A time to kill, a time to heal
A time to laugh, a time to weep

To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time for every purpose under heaven

A time to build up, a time to break down
A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones
A time to gather stones together

To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time for every purpose under heaven

A time of war, a time of peace
A time of love, a time of hate
A time you may embrace
A time to refrain from embracing

To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time for every purpose under heaven

A time to gain, a time to lose
A time to rend, a time to sew
A time to love, a time to hate
A time of peace, I swear it's not too late!

PS - I'm so sorry to hear about your mouse, zen.  And your situation, Seeking.  We'll all get thru this, huh?

Fare Thee Well

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Re: Recent Family Tragedies in the News

no worries, lilmomma!  I really do wish you luck, and I do understand what you're saying.

I do agree that people in toxic situations risk extreme peril sometimes when it comes to getting out.  It is seldom as simple as, "that's it.  I've had it.  I'm out."  There seems to usually be some kind of a negative backlash, like extreme violence, or even something as seemingly simple as emotional abuse.  I think it has to do with the power struggle that most of us deal with at one time or another.

Even on a less dramatic level, I know that something that I sometimes struggle with is staying calm.  Like if I'm having a heated discussion with someone, the calmer they get, the madder and more desperate I get for an emotional escalation.  Like the argument isn't understood to be real or meaningful by the other party unless there's a frantic element to it.

I've been getting better at it, thankfully, and will continue to work on it,  but I do feel that it's easy to get sucked into a power struggle, or even create one, if you don't feel like you have any control over a situation.

"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly;
what is essential is invisible to the eye."
-Antoine de Saint-Exupery