Topic: Recent Family Tragedies in the News

Is it just me, or does there seem to be a huge influx of one family member killing the rest of his or her family lately? 

In the news, in the past three weeks, I've read about three or four such tragedies.  Primarily men (not to offend or point fingers- just the stories I've been reading in the news) killing their girlfriends/wives, and children.

There's the tragic Benoit case, the young pregnant woman whose boyfriend killed her and the baby, the father who shot and killed his wife and kids, and the case of a man in Wisconsin killing every man woman and child in his house before turning the gun on himself.

Do you think this is a pattern indicative of something else?  Or do you think that there's a reason for all of this?  I think that negative forces are gathering in some ways.  I'm not sure.  But I'd love to discuss it with you posters.

"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly;
what is essential is invisible to the eye."
-Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Re: Recent Family Tragedies in the News

I've been thinking the same thing, Ehhnus. I was also thinking there was something peculiar when all of those young children were being abducted late last year to earlier this year. Not to mention they started after John Mark Karr claimed he was responsible for the death of Jon Benet, which I knew from the beginning was false, but it makes you wonder what his intention was.

"There cannot be progress without expression. There cannot be expression without separation. There cannot be separation without progress."-Ouroboros

3 (edited by gcg 2007-06-29 18:32:03)

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There are definitely increased reports of individualized, domestic incidents of fatally destructive behavior over the past month -- over and above the violence and mayhem reported daily concerning Iraq and other violence-torn regions around the planet.

Energy from the Galactic Core, asteroid belt, and increased sun spot activity are having an impact as these build (excite) new frequencies on the planet. This incrementally increasing energy bombardment seems to interact with consciousness in a manner that intensifies positive or negative poles of experience / awareness. Those immersed in dark, negative, destructive patterns of thought and emotional cycles may find themselves unable to control these energies stirred within. It's quite likely these negative emotions / dark thoughts are  being PURPOSEFULLY stimulated via chemtrails, HAARP frequencies, ELF waves, and who knows what else. 

Montalk wrote concerning the importance of maintaining self more on the positive rather than negative side of energy (stated far more eloquently than this) in a recent post (don't remember which one).  That's what seems to be the key factor separating those who sustain themselves outside the control network of frequency manipulation (the earth-based manipulations) and successfully integrate the cosmic energy waves bombarding the planet at this time.

“You who have the light, what are you doing with it?” ~ Paul Claudel

4 (edited by belljar 2007-06-30 00:39:10)

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They need blood sacrifices before they do bigger things or so say the 'insiders' to the occult elite.

5 (edited by Blue 2007-06-30 02:42:49)

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Strange, Mark Kruegers In2Light Friday readings are usually quite lengthy, and very humorous. He generally can't stand New Age, karma type spirituality, but this Fridays post is the most sombre I have ever seen..

Mark Krueger wrote:

Full Moon on 6/30 at 6:49 am PDT in Cancer/Capricorn. O Canada Day on 7/1 and US Independence Day on 7/4. Are you independent? Any areas in your life where you are not independent are now noticeable. Nothing to do about that. Undo. Claim your own being and clear your own karma. The planets are strangely amorphous. Maybe you feel that way too.
Also, loved ones could be dying. It's getting harder for folks to stick around. In the years ahead, many will be checking out. It's tough now, despite appearances. People are having a hard time. Take care of yourself first and then others if you so choose.

There is traction now to get on with things. Mercury is still retrograde, but go ahead anyway. It's a bit of a throwaway week in the States because the holiday falls smack in the middle. It's play time. You may however want to get on with your work now that there is onward motion. Just take it easy and take breaks.
Be with the ones you love. Cancer represents home and family amongst other things. Embrace.Simply Be,
Mark

Makes you wonder.

http://www.in2light.com/2007/070629.html

6 (edited by Tom Paine 2007-06-30 08:55:50)

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The astrologer I use, Chris Hedlund of the
Cosmic Telegram,
says that this Venus retrograde is going through the
Saturn Neptune opposition and his main take on this loop
is that relationships are going through the gauntlet. 
Not just romantic relationships, but all kinds of relationships
are UP FOR REVIEW.  Any relationships that are already
dysfunctional may have meltdowns.  And with what Mark
Kruger said about times being tough, I can certainly vouch
for that being the case.

Re: Recent Family Tragedies in the News

Yes, same story over here, in the Netherlands and Flanders. More men than women, but several mothers as well. It has been rising steadily though since a couple years, and not only in the last few weeks/months.

Because it is sometimes very widely discussed and covered in the media, it is thought that this is lowering the treshold for those that are close to acting like this. Hearing that several others do this may lower the barrier of doing it themselves.

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I think you may be right about that, Spiegel.  I think the more exposed we are to anything, the less shocking it naturally becomes.

I was wondering about some of the other posts involving astrology.  Do you, gcg, Tom Paine, and blue really put stock in the positions of the surrounding planets and our planet's position in relation to them?  Would you say that factors like that affect the decisions that you make, or even determine the outcome of things?  Do you feel that we have any free will at all, or that it's all predetermined?  How important is it to you?

I ask merely out of curiosity.  I'm a virgo, and actually take some stock in that, but my response to your reasoning is a need for simplification.  I am curious as to how you live your lives and make your decisions.  I can honestly say that I've had my share of tumultuous relationships of late, but I seem to be coming out of it.  (I hope)

"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly;
what is essential is invisible to the eye."
-Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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Family tragedies, indeed.  Like the wrestler who recently murdered his wife and child and then took his own life?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19424899/

Nevermind what’s up on planet earth.  How about what’s happening in our own homes?  To our own families?   I can only speak for myself, but it seem to me that I’ve managed, for all intents and purposes, to “divorce” my husband of 17 years and parents of 33 years all in one fell swoop these past few days.  And that’s not to mention quitting my job in December. 

Is it because some planet’s gone retrograde?  Maybe the full moon made me do it.  Or maybe it’s because I’m just plain old sick and tired of carrying all the weight, taken too much shit and abuse, withstood all the negativity and neglect, misogyny and manipulation and gloriously f*cked up “push and pull” as Lyra puts it, for one lifetime.  I don’t know.  All I really do know is that I’m pretty much a mess right about now and posting about it on a public forum for god knows what reason.  I’m not stoned.  I’m not drunk.  Aside from smoking my brains out I’m stone cold sober.  I’ve just had enough.  Maybe every one else has too.

(pardon my french)

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lilmomma:  I congratulate you on your new life, and am sure that what you've done in the past few days hasn't been easy or stress free, to say the least.  I'm sure you're going through a lot right now, and I wish you luck in your new endeavors.

I do want to say, however, that "having enough" is not a decent explanation for what has been happening of late.  That reasoning makes it possible for anyone who decides they've "had enough" to shoot up their place of employment, or hurt another person.  You had enough, and you left the situation. 

Note the fact that while your situation seemed to be, at least from what you described, an unhealthy one, while at least some of the other ones did not.  I of course have no way of knowing that factually, at least without being a fly on the wall, but still.  These are massacres.  Plenty of people seem to be able to leave a toxic situation, or at least have a heated argument, without reaching for a pistol.

"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly;
what is essential is invisible to the eye."
-Antoine de Saint-Exupery

11 (edited by Tom Paine 2007-06-30 18:05:44)

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ehhnus---Re: astrology.

You can't get anything of value from newspaper/fanzine astrology
columns.

You must either have an astrologer interpret what's going on in
your chart with the current aspects or learn to do it yourself,
or go to http://www.astro.com and log in your birth data and
look to see what's going on with you personally.  It's free!

It's like the weather.  There are local weather conditions which
apply to you and there are large weather patterns that affect many
people.  But as to your question of is there free will---yes, there is,
but if you're not paying attention and you're just unaware then
astrological aspects and conditions are like a DEFAULT program.
At any given point under any circumstances you have a choice.
Whether you go against the grain or float with the tide is up to you.
We all are to some extent driven by unconscious cycles.  Some
are very short duration and some are so long and slow they
affect entire generations.  Knowing about these helps us navigate
our own universes.  As the C's say, Knowledge Protects.
Ignorance Endangers.

My statements about the large heavy aspects going on were to
give people a clue as to the pressures that we are all feeling to
some extent. 

Hope that helps.

TP

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Tom Paine wrote:

ehhnus---Re: astrology.

. . . It's like the weather.  There are local weather conditions which
apply to you and there are large weather patterns that affect many
people.  But as to your question of is there free will---yes, there is,
but if you're not paying attention and you're just unaware then
astrological aspects and conditions are like a DEFAULT program.
At any given point under any circumstances you have a choice.
Whether you go against the grain or float with the tide is up to you.

. . . My statements about the large heavy aspects going on were to
give people a clue as to the pressures that we are all feeling to
some extent.

Tom, well said. 

ehhnus, I wasn't referencing astrological influences per se when mentioning sun spots, asteroids, the galactic core, etc.  Earth's part of a macrocosm and experiences the effects of solar, galactic and universal influences.  These, in turn, affect the lifeforms inhabiting the earth. Astrology, for the most part, looks at planetary influences affecting the earth within our solar system.  While these influences are likely the most immediately felt due to proximity, there are subtler, vaster energy tides flowing in, thru, and around the earth that seem heightened in intensity at this time.

There is also a generalized speeding up of "time" that seems to be compressing everything.  I read somewhere that our 24 hr daily cycle is rapidly being compressed to the equivalent of 16-hour daily cycles (not sure how that's measured). It seems sometimes the days between Monday and Friday dissipate in a blur, with me having to literally stop and think about what day it actually is.

lilmomma, hang in there!  The changes are causing many to feel as if we're hanging on by a thread. The intensity makes it easy to have buttons pushed and sometimes the best thing we can do is to push back just enough to make some space so we can breathe freely again.  The energy intensity will die down a bit after the full moon passes (it usually does). 

Spiegel, thanks for the update that crazy stuff is happening in the Netherlands as well.  It's probably happening all over the globe and, as you say, widespread media coverage may indeed be affecting folks as well.

“You who have the light, what are you doing with it?” ~ Paul Claudel

Re: Recent Family Tragedies in the News

lilmomma---
Congratulations on your new life.  It sounds like you are
sick and tired and not gonna take it anymore!  I went through
what you're going thru a few years back.  It's scary but it's
liberating at the same time.
Parents and intimate family provide the nearest vectors to
inject pain and strife from the Matrix.  Although the reverse
can be true.  Depends on whether everyone is trying to
grow in consciousness.
Thanks for sharing here.  Many people at NR can help by
listening and offering suggestions or just commiserating
with you.
Take care,
TP

14 (edited by zenden 2007-07-01 12:56:29)

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hey lilmomma--im with ya.  we r with YOU.  it's then, apparently, time to get on.  i read every word u said.  do what u feel u must do.  u can say anything anytime u want to.  i/we understand.  u ARE supported here, in full fashion.  i know we have been saying that it is difficult or of a hold-back, or of wariness, that to say things on a world-wide forum, feels unsafe kinda, it is after all, out there.  for the occasional marauders or visitors here that come on and peruse?  i say screw 'em.  big time.  right in the kisser.  and if it aint having to do with a anything the PTB, or black magicians could use, slyly, then what the hell.  i have been wanting to address that very thing, for weeks now, and we carried that on (brought up i think by our dear friend Seeking--hey man, and thinking of u dear one--ur intentions r glorious, and fully shining, as always)  in the "whats wrong with the energy here"  thread.  i can dig it.  i dont say 1/3 of the shit im thinkin--and have done, bet on it.  but just know this--there is no judgement on you, or ur home sitch.  not even.  u r loved here.  tell it and tell it like it is.  how appropo u said this in the 'current events' section.  u may not feel like laughing, but i loved that.

thinking of you, as u contemplate ur next moves.  and i'll be a havin a tribal smoke with ya, many times over.  it is hell carrying the load, i know about that.  from 90/10 trade-off's to what ever happened to 50/50?  then they'd have to be, more uh...self-actualized then.  jesssuuuzzz.  the "deals" we make.  the ppl we rode in with, hook up with, were born to.  man oh man, certainly makes one wonder about those damn contracts and agreements.  i've put a halt on pretty much "all deals."  tired of dealin', myself.  severed a few contracts, feels good, was necessary.  still workin on the biggie, but kept the old man.  will probably have to ride on out on with the "service" notion still clinging.  i figure im gonna use that one for "The Stand"--use it with all the psi-ience.  u know, keep makin plans, yet stay flexible with strategies.  the journey out is the road back.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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ehhnus wrote:

Do you think this is a pattern indicative of something else?  Or do you think that there's a reason for all of this?  I think that negative forces are gathering in some ways.  I'm not sure.  But I'd love to discuss it with you posters.

I think there's definitely something going on here. And not just the full moon. For a couple months now, I've noticed an increase in negativity and relationships on the brink.  Although, thankfully, nobody has been murdered. But seriously, I know of 3 relationships (including my own), that are on the brink of 'death'. That number is high for me since I only have a few people in my life.

Lilmomma--Stick in there, hon. I know exactly where you're coming from.  I'm going thru the same thing as well. I hope you're strong, cuz you're gonna need it! wink  Zenden is right. Do what you need to do.  You can come and share with us anytime. We'll lean on each other, okay?

Hey zenden--can I get directions to the Zen Den at the end of the galaxy? I am so going to be there! That is, if you'd have me... I feel that it's not too long in the future that we'll be needing a place to gather. I'm taking up Palmistry, so maybe I'll read everyone's hands. tongue