Re: energy transfers

oavada wrote:
lilmomma wrote:

Now the question is…can I stomach it?  I don’t know for sure but I intend to find out.  It's time for me to learn the kind of stuff I’m made of. 

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Id advise against that.....;) I said that too. Here's my quote for you:

"He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby becomes a monster. When you stare at the abyss, the abyss stares back at you."

I have to wholeheartedly disagree with this.  You may be correct and I may be wrong.  However, I have testing this many times in real life.  So here's my take.  Again, just my perspective to add to the mix.

Do not fight monsters.  Embrace them.  Understand them.  Appreciate them for what they have to offer.  Upon this you then do become the monster.  But not in the way that's implied with your quote.  You own that aspect.  Therefore, it can never control you.  It can never sneek up on you in the middle of the night and bind your hands and steal you belongings.  It is part of you because you took it on by understanding it.  I own the monster.  But I don't act from that.  In fact, I don't really have the capacity to act from it.

What a wonderful tool though.  To own the monster.  To accept the gift of the 'predator's mind'.  I'm thankful for the gift.  It has been an invaluable tool.  It provided the perfect contrast to see where I wanted to be.

Re: energy transfers

z3n3rg wrote:

What a wonderful tool though.  To own the monster.  To accept the gift of the 'predator's mind'.  I'm thankful for the gift.  It has been an invaluable tool.  It provided the perfect contrast to see where I wanted to be.

some people can do it and some cant...ive dealt with tons of it in yoga, assimilated extremely violent energy in to myself...it gets tougher to face every day..i assume most people shy away from it. I think if you can maintain a cool mind you wont have to deal with it too much...very tough to do tho in todays fast paced world..

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That’s what I’m talkin’ about, z3n3rg.  Gawd, I love your posts!  lala, you’re right on, too. 

And as much as I do agree with you, Natural Mystic, in my experience that only works to a certain degree.  There comes a time when one must step up and say, “No!  THIS is the line and you will not cross it.” 

Does the shepherd walk away from the sheep, leave it to satisfy the appetite of the wolf and then suffer a loss to the flock?  Or does s/he find a solution, through trial and error, knowing there will be casualties along the way?  Guide them to safer pastures…build a fence…rid the land of the pack somehow...whatever it takes.

Yes oavada, s/he who fights should be careful, absolutely.  But to have no care at all and let monsters run amok is not the answer for me.  Not anymore.

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That's why the inner work is so important.  When you create that center of peace within then it becomes easier.  When you create your own oasis in this desert you don't just get an oasis out of the deal.  You get the confidence that will turn your statement to "it's always getting easier to maintain my focus in an increasingly fast paced world".

Now don't get me wrong.  I know what you say is true as I've been there and am still in there in some respects.  I just know that reinforcing the idea that it's very tough will just keep it very tough.  It's probably even tougher to jump over that hump and work towards making it easier.

So I feel you.  I empathize because I know it first hand.  And sometimes that's what we need.  Someone that will empathize with us.  It can ease the discord.  It can take some of the weight off.  And I will gladly take on some of that weight for you.  I will gladly empathize with you so you know you are not alone in your thoughts or feelings.  To help a little more just know that I've been on this path for 14 years.  That's a long time to just get to where I'm at now.

And if what I say doesn't ring true then please disregard it immediately.  Each path is unique.  You have my respect by merely jumping in and expressing yourself.

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Indeed!  The shadow work IS where it's at.  I've had the feeling many times recently where I really will not accept the old ways of doing things, especially hurting one another.  In my work environment it was less than two days ago where someone kicked a door at another, grabbed him by the neck and was shot down on the ground.  I was a witness to this and I got angered!  I suppose by choosing this environment I am learning how to deal with these characters and their actions.  I suppose it is my current training ground.

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun