16 (edited by lyra 2007-06-06 11:08:43)

Re: Scientology

just keep thinking of the video Millenium posted in the Humor & Fun section, the South Park episode concerning Scientology.  big_smile

This episode gets into everything from Scientology's purpose of $$$$ making $$$$$ money $$$$$, portraying the people who run it as phoney baloneys, to its celebrity endorsers, Tom Cruise bein' in the closet, and those alien Xenu beliefs.  http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/se … -cruise-vo

Also, the link I posted earlier for the Mind Controlled Celebrities gets into the negative aspects of scientology that most likely won't be discussed in this particular thread, such as the threats and intimidation/harassment of people who decide to leave, and the fact that there very well may be people being held captive as forced labor at the Hollywood California Scientology HQ.

Rolling Stone did a good piece about Scientology last year that's worth a read.   I'll see if I can track down an online version of it.  What emerges in the article is the pervasive fear of the members - if they leave the group, they'll be cut off permanently from their family members who are still in.  None of them want that, and they're scared to even be anonymously interviewing with the RS interview.

One of the Universal Seduction books I have has background info. on L. Ron.  I'll look at that later when I get home, see if anything is worth reposting. 

Scientology does have some valid ideas from what I've seen on the main page, and funny enough some of my own ideas and life ideals match up to what they talk about, so much so that I worried that people would think that I was a Scientologist.  wink  But there are definitely some major problems with that organization.   The $$$ thing being at the top of the list.  They are first and foremost interested in your $$$$.  Not helping you.  And then the fear and manipulation tactics, which traces back to control, because they seem very nervous of the idea of anybody questioning anything or leaving.  I do believe that die-hard members who can't acknowledge any possible negative issues with the group have been brainwashed to some extent, or else they need to belong somewhere - and that's what this group provides them with.  It's a place to fit in when you're lost and wayward and have nothing else really.  So they don't want to be hearing anything negative.   IMO if you're of right, balanced mind you should be able to see the good and bad, pros and cons with anybody, anything or any situation.   Those who stubbornly repeat a "script" that only focuses on positives while denying any funny stuff are probably either brainwashed, or latched onto/invested out of need and ego identification/extension.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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17 (edited by lyra 2007-06-06 20:20:16)

Re: Scientology

Found the Rolling Stone magazine article about Scientology.  Did a google on "Rolling Stone magazine article about Scientology" and there it was, right at the top of the search.  It's REALLY interesting, and anybody curious about the history and inner workings of Scientology, the beliefs, the indoctrination, what the members go through, and all the rest should read it:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/st … cientology

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Re: Scientology

I remember reading that article, it was a real eye opener. Especially the fact that people were scared of crossing the organization

My People Were Fair And Had Sky In Their Hair...But Now They're Content To Wear Stars On Their Brows

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Re: Scientology

Shoogie wrote:

I remember reading that article, it was a real eye opener. Especially the fact that people were scared of crossing the organization

Yeah, it was a really good article.  I passed by the RS issue in the grocery store on the magazine endcap next to the frozen meat and seafood area and the whole Scientology thing caught my eye.  I stopped and picked up the magazine, and then couldn't stop reading.  Just stood there next to meat and fish and read and read and read!  big_smile

You know what's weird - about 2 years ago maybe I had a really realistic "dream" where I was wandering around some outdoor plaza sort of thing on a sunny late morning/early afternoon.  It looked like it could have been California, since I lived there for 10 years, but who knows.  I was with somebody I think, maybe a girl my age, I'm not sure.  And we came across a Scientology recruiting office sort of thing.  Curious, we went inside.  It was dark and cool, air conditioned.  I don't really remember what happened next other than I believe I bailed out.  It felt wrong and gave me the creeps and I remember leaving or something, wanting to get away.

It just seems odd to dream about something like that.  Maybe it wasn't a dream, but rather a glimpse into a parallel timeline of some sort.   I can't explain my interest in learning about the conspiracies and weirdness of Scientology.  So maybe it's because I've dabbled with it in another timeline.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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