Hello from a skeptical atheist (Do Reptilians Exist?) (Page 4 of 4)

Thank you, Montalk! Well said.

Much that comprises life is invisible, "unprovable," hidden -- yet, like the air we breathe, ultimately undeniable. Though I have not personally seen a reptilian, they certainly seem to exist and have considerable influence over affairs on Earth. Gargoyles, for instance, are prominently displayed on churches in Europe, despite having a decided lack of visual appeal -- at least to this human.

Much of the proof that something reptilian lurks around inter-dimensionally has already been offered by the many excellent posts on this thread.  Suffice to say, where there's smoke there's likely fire, and the smoke billowing from the reptilian saga around the earth -- across continents and cultures -- is certainly sufficient for me to say they likely exist, have cleverly manipulated reality at various points in time (sufficient to cause them to be fearfully worshipped and believed to be gods), and have not particularly demonstrated behaviors that suggest they have humanity's best interests at heart.

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http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2029

vaccime:

I'm going to go out on a limb and (for purposes of writing this post) assume that you're a real person somewhere, and that like most of the participants to NR, you're on a some sort of voyage of discovery....even though it seems at least as likely that you're simply a list troll who's come in with the full moon.

I like NR because it's a place where people go to discuss the nature of consciousness. If there's a "faith" prevalent here, it has little to do with god or archangels or reptilians, and a lot to do with the belief that consciousness is a real thing, that it's tangible and energetic, though not in a way that can be measured in volts or foot/pounds. This doesn't mean that it can't be studied and understood in ways that reveal its properties and the universal laws which apply to it.

It's not that the zeal to promote your immunity to the meme of god-belief is a bad thing. It's simply a level of being that your consciousness is attempting to navigate. What do we really know for sure? Certainly you don't know, and can't prove the non-existence of, a supreme being...just as no one can provide you with the proof of it's existence either.
What you don't seem to understand is that there's an equal amount of dis-empowerment associated with absolute disbelief as there is with absolute belief. Your power as a thinking, animate, evolving being lies in between these polarities.
When you make statements like this:

….you sound as if all your logical faculties are disengaged (and the god-faq link doesn’t help your case either).

As Lyra pointed out, if you fancy yourself a debater, at least learn something about debate and logic. You would never tolerate someone from NR making the statement that God exists, and that He exists because it would be impossible for Him not to exist and that it’s ideologically incorrect not to believe in a Supreme Being. It's obvious from your other statements that you would accuse that person of insanity.
But this is how you look here -- as if you're insanely polarized. If you're used to getting away with such silly and hollow statements you must never perform this act anywhere except in front of a home crowd.

Before you even start on the subject of "god, is/isn't" perhaps it would be good to present your definition of god. I’d wager that if you were to define the Supreme Being that you don’t believe in, I would probably agree that I don’t believe in that thing either…though that doesn’t mean that I disbelieve in it. Multiple billions of beings on this planet believe in various interpretations of god. These beings and the consciousness they possess create waves of that (difficult to measure) type of “energy” related to their personal and congregate iterations of god. You can call it insanity, but religion and humanities beliefs in god(s) have enormous power. They help shape the world we live in, and they can kill us.
Beyond this, there are infinite ways to consider the nature of what people like to call god. I'm usually not very comfortable with even using that term. It's narrow and confining and dependent upon a tiny particle of consciousness attempting to describe an ocean of the same from a singular point of view.

About the reptiles:
I'm not sure you're ready to receive the answers to your questions. Are there sentient reptilian beings somewhere in the universe? If you're not too stuck in a Darwinist pattern of believing that all life on earth evolved only on earth, it certainly seems possible. Are they involved with humans and human consciousness and evolution? I don't have any evidence to contribute to your search, though if you go back and re-read the post that Montalk so kindly spent his time on for you, there might be some useful clues there that you've overlooked.

I think it's good that people from your plane of thought show up in metaphysical discussion groups. You create dissonance that helps to stimulate conversation that normally wouldn't occur where certain ideas and values are accepted as benchmarks. It's never a bad idea to occasionally revisit even our most basic paradigms.
On the other hand, there should be some value to you as well. If you're stuck in your polarity, refuse to consider that there is always a universe outside of whatever box we live in, and have only come here because (from the inside of your box) you think you can win a debate that only you are having, that would be too bad...for you.

//........."""Assuming the information about the reptilians controlling the world, etc, is true, all I want to know is : How do you know it? What evidence is there to suggest that this is indeed true?""".........................hey vaccime.......................what if the so called reptillians were actually human beings that were in denial of their own individual shadow............what if this possibility became too much for an individual to deal with so we began to self project off our reptillian energy onto others............what if this self projected reptillian energy began to accumulate to form a collective entity.............what if this self projected collective entity that we labeled reptillian began to organize itself into an energetic matrix with a hierarchy and lowerarchy..............what if this self projected reptillian matrix then began to breed it's mandatory feeding habits into our prewomb young..............what if it was we ourselves that were responsable for creating this entire dilemma..............what if, etc, etc...............the evidence will come upon processing this aspect of the individual shadow................from there one will be able to see and feel with the necessary clarity to self answer the potentially powerful questions posed..............until then beware of the reptillian trance that seems to get projected with a greater intensity by those who have engaged the awakening process to varying degrees..............some get so caught up in it that they begin to wear the reptillian imprint..............it consumes their thoughts to the point of which one will unwittingly wear the reptillian energy through saturating themselves within their own cerebrospinal fluid................the next instinct is to project it off yet we exist within the smoke, mirrors, and karmic world of a third dimensional reallity...............the whole reptillian agenda is going to remain a mess until a courageous energy formulates of which the front line spiritual masses begin to move forward in the transmutation and processing of this particular archetype within the individual and collective shadow.................the collective reptillian energy will eventually be forced to move once the collective paradigm shift of conscioussness comes our way...............until then we continue to take short yet  progressive steps via potent questioning and self analyzation such as you self initiated.................we'll get there.................by the way this was written by a one time leading reptillian...............me................i still wear the marked patch within my etheric bubble that glazed my eyes upon a full time feeding connection to the grid...............i had to go through a few deaths and layers of horror to get the energetically implanted chords completley detached.................i came from what would be profiled as a powerful family that through generations of experience had blindly threaded their tentacular energetic chords thoroughly within the field of my young self.................each and everyone here has got their own submerged story of this same basic reallity through the maya's standard breeding process.................our Truth has it's savage moments and through knowing this i have compassion for all that are currently combatting this specifically challenging aspect of the liberation process.................i consider it one of the two final hurdles upon the Path as i know it.................of this obstacles greatest rewards is that of sight...............once one becomes able to see the space and transcend the veil then the original question posed becomes decharged through the strength of regaining our heart energy's natural flow............we can then commence through personnal choice to enlist into life's angelic ranks and take to Service as need be.............this would be my own discerned perspective as to the evidence requested in partial story form upon my viewing position within the collective paradigm of humanity..............take it easy comrade///