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Cho's behaviour first became an issue in November 2005, when his angry, profanity-laced creative writing alarmed a number of English faculty members. Lucinda Roy, then the faculty chair, sent samples of his writing to the campus police and counselling services. Professor Roy also encouraged Cho to seek help. "But I couldn't force him to do it," she said. She felt that he might be suicidal. And she described talking to him as " like talking to a hole ... he was not really there".

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/ame … 461395.ece

You know what, gun control is not going to be the biggest issue after this.  What they are really going to push for is screening every child, teenager, and young adult who is attending school for signs of mental illness.  Like we don't have enough kids medicated already.  Like we don't have enough paranoia in our society.  They are going to encourage kids to watch each other and rat if they see any unusual behavior, if someone is just a little bit weird or different, or likes to keep to themselves, oh my god, you better report them because one day that person could turn out to be a killer.

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OK-- wow.  Has anyone seen the video this guy shot of himself and sent to NBC?  Apparently he sent Quicktime files of himself and an 1800 pg manifesto to NBC in between shootings!

In one snippet I caught, he said (emphasis mine), "You have enjoyed crucifying me, INDUCING CANCER IN MY BRAIN, and ripping my guts out."  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

I'm not kidding, guys, he said that.  There's lots more.  My mind is reeling.  Watch/ read about it here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18169776/

I watched all they're giving people access to now.  Naturally, the authorities are "being cautious" about what they release, "not wanting to make any more heroes."  This kid is describing his mind control program, and if they released everything, the cat would be out of the bag!

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I saw it too Lono, and I got the same impression, like wow he's actually trying to explain what his controllers did to his mind!  They claim that most of it is either unintelligible, or profanity, and the "you" he is addressing in the video isn't anyone in particular...but of course we don't get to see the whole thing, because NBC's 24 hour coverage is "family programming", god forbid that the innocent children who are watching might hear the killer saying words like "shit" and "f*ck" roll

Another REALLY funny thing they reported, is that Cho's roommate said he almost didn't recognize him from the video!!  Supposedly because Cho always kept his head down, rarely spoke and never made eye contact.  Or maybe the real reason is, it was another person on the video?  An impersonator?

All you people who whine and complain "who cares if they replaced Paul McCartney" better start paying attention, because if they can replace one person with a double and get away with it, they can do it to ANYONE.

79 (edited by lyra 2007-04-19 05:25:58)

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Lono wrote:

OK-- wow.  Has anyone seen the video this guy shot of himself and sent to NBC?  Apparently he sent Quicktime files of himself and an 1800 pg manifesto to NBC in between shootings!

In one snippet I caught, he said (emphasis mine), "You have enjoyed crucifying me, INDUCING CANCER IN MY BRAIN, and ripping my guts out."  !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

I'm not kidding, guys, he said that.  There's lots more.  My mind is reeling.  Watch/ read about it here:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18169776/

No thanks.  I read about it and saw a couple of still-frame shots.  That was enough for me.  IMO there's no need to watch something like this.  That's just getting all amped up and way too much into the sensationalism.   All I need to know is that there is a video, and that they're really pushing it on the public to watch.  (agenda, manipulation, shock and trauma value, etc.) Those are all the facts I need.  By posting his video all over the media and people watching it and encouraging others to watch it too makes a celebrity out of him.  We live in a cult of celebrity society right now that has made movies about all the major serial killers, turning them into these anti-heroes....and that's something narcissistic sociopaths take note of.   That's why this guy filmed himself and mailed it to NBC.   Because he knew this would be the response he'd get.





Athenais wrote:

All you people who whine and complain "who cares if they replaced Paul McCartney" better start paying attention....

??  "All" of us, "whining and complaining" ?? I don't see any of that going on in your Faul McCartney thread:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=4276

(or in any of the threads where this subject has come up, for that matter.)   Yeah, you're right, we "better" stop doing all that "whining and complaining" about the subject of Faul.  roll  (And actually, the brunt of the issue seemed to revolve around your insistence that John Lennon was replaced as well.  He clearly wasn't when you line up the pics of him in the 60's with him in the late 70's to 1980.  Same guy.)  But don't mistake a very small handful of people disagreeing with you as being more than it is, ie, "all" these people "whining and complaining." 

Athenais wrote:

because if they can replace one person with a double and get away with it, they can do it to ANYONE.

But yes, I do agree with this particular statement.  The replacement of people is an interesting subject.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Godlikeproductions members were posting info that his sister worked for a government agency. But, anyway if you haven't studied mind control you aren't going to know what you are looking at. Most will think well he was nuts not knowing that people can be made to be nuts but precise for their role.

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belljar wrote:

Godlikeproductions members were posting info that his sister worked for a government agency. But, anyway if you haven't studied mind control you aren't going to know what you are looking at. Most will think well he was nuts not knowing that people can be made to be nuts but precise for their role.

Interesting coincidence:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/ar … ?read=6235

AND this email is going around now
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So how many others are going to be triggered?

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lyra wrote:

??  "All" of us, "whining and complaining" ??

Lyra you took one comment I made out of context, and reinterpreted it; it comes across to me like you are either taking it personally, or trying to inflame other people into getting offended.  I accept that you disagree with me, and I have no desire to derail this thread into a discussion about how we perceive each other's communications. 

I have no idea at this point if a double was actually used for Cho, but it's an idea.  A possibility.  Especially considering the theory that there were actually two gunman, perhaps the first shooting in the dorm was done by Cho, and the later shootings in the classroom building were done by a double, who then killed Cho.  Or they could have just used a double to make the video.  The point is, yes they can do this to anyone.  They have done it to several media figures already, and no one noticed.  The potential is there to frame ordinary people of crimes they didn't commit, even if they had absolutely nothing to do with the event, and put into place all the "evidence" needed to prove guilt, faked videos, faked DNA tests, etc.

In a video like this, you could show 2, 3, 4 different people in a series of images, and if they look enough alike, few people would even notice the difference.  But this guy's roommate noticed something was off.  I mean, he lived with the guy!  Shouldn't he know for sure if that's him or not?  Like, YEAH, that's him!  But I don't know if this is a sign that the video was faked, or rather that he was just meeting one of Cho's programmed alters for the first time.  I'm inclined to think the latter.  Switches between alters can affect physical appearance to a certain extent as well.


Every time I hear them say he was wearing a "maroon" beret, I think of the song "Raspberry Beret".  Is there a connection?  I haven't heard of this song being used as a programming trigger...but...

She walked in through the out door, out door
She wore a raspberry beret...

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Athenais wrote:

You took one comment I made out of context, and reinterpreted it;

As I read that I wonder why it is that people don't take responsibility for what they say after the fact?   

I understand perfectly well what you meant.  You're saying that the VT killer could have been replaced.....which in your mind, ties into Faul. "They replaced Faul, people, they can replace anybody"  being the message.  The second part of the message being chastising NR for all the supposed whiners and complainers here who don't agree that Paul was replaced with Faul.

So I understood quite well what you were saying.  Nothing was "taken out of context" as you're now claiming after the fact and there's no "reinterpretation" going on. 


Athenais wrote:

it comes across to me like you are either taking it personally, or trying to inflame other people into getting offended.

How about choice C?  Neither?  For starters Athenais, I don't go around trying to inflame other posters into getting offended.  I've been around here for 3 years, and anybody else who's been around with me for that long knows I don't play games and don't pull tricks and manipulation.  I'll argue you till I'm blue in the face - on my own, standing on my own two feet.  I don't EVER try to incite others to rally around me.  And I'm quite used to debating alone.   So with that said - In the past on NR, when I've seen posters making exaggeratory statements directed at NR as a whole, lumping people into one group, or just in general sort of reprimanding the group as a whole for something only a couple of people may have been guilty of, or worse......stuff that people on *other* forums may have been guilty of.......then yeah, I'm always the first to pipe up and say something.   I happened to remember your Faul threed and the others like it because I've participated in them.  But I didn't take it personally, although I can see how it comes across that way.

But I would venture to say that you've apparently taken others' disagreements about your belief in "Faul" a bit personally....enough so that you found a way to work it in to this thread, bringing it up from out in left field and labeling those who have questioned you as being "whining and complaining."   That sounds like disgruntled to me.  wink  It also seems to me that you've mistakenly confused the discussion you've had at NR on the subject with possible bad treatment you've received on other forums regarding the topic.  Sort of lumping NR into the same category with all the rest.   

Anyway, and now back to our regularly scheduled sensationalistic distraction tactic news story of the moment while more NWO policies are slipped by us under the radar.....!  wink

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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lyra wrote:

I understand perfectly well what you meant....The second part of the message being chastising NR for all the supposed whiners and complainers here who don't agree that Paul was replaced with Faul.

You wildly misinterpreted my comment, so no, as a matter of fact you don't understand my intended meaning at all.  I don't see any need to take responsibility for your perception of me.  You are free to interpret my comments in any way you choose.  I hope that your personal issues with me won't discourage anyone from discussing the subject at hand, which is 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech.

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Athenais wrote:

You wildly misinterpreted my comment, so no, as a matter of fact you don't understand my intended meaning at all.

Okay then................since I'm apparently "wildly" misinterpreating your comment, how about clarifying what you meant then?   Instead of all this sort of talk here:

Athenais wrote:

I don't see any need to take responsibility for your perception of me.  You are free to interpret my comments in any way you choose....

.....just clarify what you meant.  Save us all some time.   I mean, since you did bring the whole subject of Faul up in the first place.


Athenais wrote:

I hope that your personal issues with me won't discourage anyone from discussing the subject at hand, which is 32 Students Dead: Shooting at Virginia Tech.

Oh seriously, come on now. This isn't about having "personal issues with you."  (although I'm starting to have them now, by this point......)  It's about a comment that your threw in your previous post that was way out in left field, of which I felt like addressing, and which you're now claiming I "wildly misunderstood" and saying that it's personal issues with you.   

So, if you'd like to offer some quick clarification on what you apparently really meant it would be appreciated.  Then we can all be on the same page and can get back to beating a dead horse with regards to the topic of the shooter. wink  I think that's fair.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Mid April seems to be an especially busy time for blood sacrifice.

Waco -April 19th
Oklahoma City-April 19th
Columbine-April 20th

From John Christian's book Gladiator;

"Much can be said about how these ancient pagan nature feasts dominate the pagan mind. During the Second World War, Hitler changed May Day to {JD: the satanic feast} The Cerialia. At precisely 9 o'clock on the morning of Jewish Passover, April 19th, 1943, the EXACT time that the Cerialia would have been sacrificed in ancient Rome, the Nazis commenced to burn the Jewish Warsaw Ghetto to the ground. Using tanks with flame-throwers -- "a whole burnt offering of a pregnant cow" -- they proceeded to burn men, woment and children. Again, at 9 o'clock in the morning of April 19th, 1993, amazingly, EXACTLY fifty years later, to the day and hour, the Waco, Texas Branch Davidian Complex was burned to the ground -- {again} using tanks and flame-throwers, {again} burning men, women, and children. This time, not by an evil Nazi world leader, but ordered by the Attorney-General and the President of the United States."

" The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it "

Ayn Rand

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I just watched some snippets of the video. he also said:

"I didn't want to do this but I had to"

"You have vandalized my heart raped my soul and torched my conscience"

"Do you think I dreamed about dying this way in a million years?"

My People Were Fair And Had Sky In Their Hair...But Now They're Content To Wear Stars On Their Brows

-Tyrannosaurus rex

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(I have a feeling there won't be any clarification given since Athenais has been online since I posted but has yet to respond.....maybe because I didn't actually "wildly misinterpret" anything. wink But, we'll wait and see.....)

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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More...

I didn't have to do this.  I could have left. I could have fled. But no, I will no longer run. It's not for me. It's for my children. It's for my brothers and sisters that you f*cked. I did it for them.

He had to do this, or he didn't have to do this?  He said both. 
What children is he talking about?  Children he witnessed being put through ritual abuse?

Do you know what it feels like to be spit on your face and have trash shoved down your throat? Do you know what it feels like to dig your own grave? Do you know what it feels like to have your throat slashed from ear to ear?

Another thing I'm left considering is whether or not some of the people he killed were actually part of the same mind control program.

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Athenais wrote:

More...

I didn't have to do this.  I could have left. I could have fled. But no, I will no longer run. It's not for me. It's for my children. It's for my brothers and sisters that you f*cked. I did it for them.

He had to do this, or he didn't have to do this?  He said both. 
What children is he talking about?  Children he witnessed being put through ritual abuse?

Do you know what it feels like to be spit on your face and have trash shoved down your throat? Do you know what it feels like to dig your own grave? Do you know what it feels like to have your throat slashed from ear to ear?

Another thing I'm left considering is whether or not some of the people he killed were actually part of the same mind control program.

Hypnotically implanted false memories, perfectly designed to jusify his rampage. Why would he be sent to kill other sleepers?

OK, I'm going to get involved in this flame war. Lyra, your statements are infantile, arrogant and irrational. Have you been watching TV? Have you been triggered too? WAKE UP!

We're all butterflies flapping our wings and changing the world.