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Topic: Was I manipulated/ lured into my old house?

As any of you who have read my house closing post may know, I've moved into a new house.  I don't know if I've posted about this before, but my old house was just evil.  I've come to believe it held a portal, and it for sure had very dark, depressing energy.  Now that I'm in my new, vibrant house, it's become clear just how depressing that other house was.  I know that a manic/ depressive woman lived there for years before we did.  I also found some strange symbol etched lightly into the doorway to the bedroom.  Was it for protection?  Or was it a curse drawn in a manic state?  I guess I'll never know, but there's something strange beyond the house itself.

Why did I choose it?  Why?  When I first started telling my husband I HAD to get out of that house about a year and a half ago, he thought I was being flighty.  He reminded me that I had picked that house, and that I had been excited about it.  I thought he was exaggerating how enamored I had been with the house.  But yesterday, my Mom was saying, "Yeah, your Daddy and I couldn't understand why you'd been so in love with that house when you moved in."  Whaaaa????  I tried to think back, and I vaguely remember saying great things about it, but I can't remember the feeling.  I thought I only chose that house because it was really cheap for so much room, but other people around me are telling me something different.

This isn't like me.  I normally remember every emotion associated with things.  Also, choosing that house has caused me and the people around me to question my judgment.  I usually make good, sound decisions, that even if I regret later I see why I made them.  Now, to be fair, some really important things happened in that house.  Living in the darkness caused me to SEE the darkness.  While living there I saw things that made me question the light'n love mindset I'd had for years.  I started reading about aliens and negative beings, I discovered NR, I sought out and became friends with Barbara Bartholic.  I have changed. I don't think any of these things would have happened had I not been plunged into the darkness. 

I've come to the conclusion that I must have been in a daze when I made the decision to move into that house.  The question is, who was pulling the strings?  Was it negative forces?  Was I drawn to the dark portal in the house?   Did my higher self direct me there so that I could have unpleasant experiences that forced me to look further into reality?   Was I called there by positive beings to help heal the place in some small way?  If the influence was negative in nature, did it backfire?

Maybe I'll never know.  But has anyone else ever had this happen-- had your good judgment seemingly hijacked, leaving you later thinking, WTF?

2 Reply by treehugger (edited by treehugger 2007-02-23 08:22:09)

  • Registered: 2006-02-06

Re: Was I manipulated/ lured into my old house?

Lono.."But has anyone else ever had this happen--had your good judgment seemingly hijacked, leaving you later thinking, WTF?"

Oh yeah, many times.  There were two houses that I can distincly remember how horrid I felt when I lived there, if I think back on it. My first impression of them was totally different from my impression when I finally got out of them. I consider myself an empath, and I am very good at picking up vibes of that nature. What made that go out the window at those times, Im not quite sure. I do like to fix things up in a feng shui sort of way, so maybe its because I had a healing effect on those places, that I was pushed in their direction.Its also given me that "knowing" comparison when I walk into a place, if its a "nice vibed" place to be.  Its funny, but Ive noticed that my daughter's friends(not so much the adults) always tell me how pretty my house is, or how much they like being here.:) Its not Better Homes and Gardens, or anything like that, but I like my house to be welcoming and comfortable.
Maybe in your case,you were directed there because you needed to be able to see and feel the darker side of things by being in that house. Just chalk it up to another learning expierence. Just the fact that it was brought to your attention probably means for you to take notice.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

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I believe I grew up in a 'haunted house' or whatever you want to call it. My parents moved in when I was a toddler. We lived there until I was 15, then moved. I was always uncomfortable living there. I never liked being upstairs alone, always gave me the creeps. Just once I woke up in the wee hours of the morning and saw a whitish figure standing at the foot of the bed, scared the shit out of me! But I just closed my eyes tight and went back to sleep. There was a couple of incidences where I would be laying on my bed and it would start vibrating, like there was an earthquake tremor or something, but we did not have earthquakes in Maine! What ever was there must not have been evil, for nothing ever happened to any of us kids, physically anyways. Boy was I glad when we moved out of that house tho! lol

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Lono, I've heard that people that have moved into the house that
me and my crazy ex wife lived in have gone berzerko.
I don't know if it was the house, or the weird vibes we put in
the house.  We would have violent arguments.  A drunk drove
across six front yards and demolished the front porch and
wedged his car between the porch supports and the front door.
He couldn't get out of the car.  He was drunk.  The police had
to break the window to get him out of the car, and then asked
me, "Did anyone see him driving?"  DUUUUUUHHH!  Circumstantial
evidence said he did.  No one could get into or out of the car.
The driver disappeared after he got out and the landlord chained
the car to the front porch.  Also my wife at that time was raped
in that house.  Nice neighborhood.

  • Registered: 2006-08-21

Re: Was I manipulated/ lured into my old house?

I thought there was something wrong with my childhood home as well. Many strange things happened to me there. But, than I found out no matter where I move to the weirdness follows me it is me.

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Re: Was I manipulated/ lured into my old house?

What's strange is that a home I lived in as a child had a very similar feel to this one.  This childhood home was also the one where I experienced most of my terrifying childhood encounters.  I had a similar experience to the white thing Globug mentioned.  Mine was a ghastly white disembodied head with wild tendrils of "hair" that it used to tickle my face.  I would feel that, wake up, and see this hideous thing looming right over me.  It had huge, almond-shaped eyes, and a down-turned gash for a mouth with no teeth.  Creepy.

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Houses can be very nasty repositories of the entire psychic history of not only all of the prior inhabitants but also the history of the land beneath the house. So if in ancient times Indians were fighting against each other on that spot, there would be a psychic "blood trail" stemming from that.  Many layers of psychic energy are involved with houses.

It took us two years to clear out the property and house where we're living.  We'd download pieces of the puzzle and work to clear one thing at a time, and the downloads just kept coming and coming. I think the psychic activity is a bit more intense when you happen to be near a powerful ley line.

As we were preparing to move into this house, I had a ghastly dream about standing downstairs and watching all of these scary people in old-fashioned clothes sort of march mindlessly through the house like zombies.  Ghosts/discarnates tend to gather like bees around psychic ley lines. So ghosties were the first critters to gently be sent off to the light.

But the prior inhabitant who had lived here was a certifiable psycho driven insane by her own black magic. She was openly known to cast "kill" type spells on anybody who made her angry. Everybody in the neighborhood had been drawn into her negative psychic orbit, and she had done a lot of damage to people. We suspect that she even psychically killed the nice gardener who used to work here because he died suspiciously - dropped dead without warning - right after she'd had one of her bats*$t crazy episodes of yelling at him. I never met this woman, but apparently, when she went after people in a rage, she was very powerful and dangerous.

So another thing we quickly did after we moved in was to work to clear out all residue remaining from black magic, spells, hexes, curses, jinxes, and voodoo magic. 

When there have been a lot of spells done in a home, there will be these psychic "tripwires" that are loaded to "pop" on an unsuspecting person who enters the home surrounding whatever issues the magician was working on.  Even casual visitors can be negatively affected.

A colleague of my honey's was having weird issues with her throat that came on for no apparent reason, and we both knew that she was a sensitive person - who hadn't yet figured out she was sensitive. So we worked with her to retrace her recent steps. You know what happened? She and her boyfriend had been looking at cheap houses to buy.  They visited a house that had been abandoned and broken into by teenagers. It was cheap to buy but definitely had a nasty vibe.

She walked into one room, and as she was standing, at about throat level, she saw some weird scary stuff inscribed into the wall. And beneath the area was some signs of a recent fire in a circle.

As soon as she stood in front of that inscribed stuff on the wall, she immediately began to choke up, had a horrible coughing fit and severe throat irritation. And it carried with her throughout the next week.  She had been the victim of some low level black magic, a boobytrap people had left just to be jerks -- putting out negative energy and claiming the house as 'their" space or clubhouse.  This spell was on a "keep out all trespassers" level, a low level spell of attacking those who entered the premises.

Well, we were able to work with this lady and cleared out all the debris that had accumulated in her throat chakra, and as we worked on her, I saw a holographic image of a scroll with writing on it - the usual image that I see when a spell is involved. Interesting that mere intention, setting a spell, can create such a visible thoughtform.

The lady was fine after that and it ended up being a good lesson for her to be more aware of how sensitive and empathic she can be.

I thought of this incident when I read about your weird, trancelike reaction to your former home and how you sort of spaced out about buying it.  I think some sort of spell mechanism was in place....but it was a spell that was either cast by the owners who were selling it or even the realtor (a lot of realtors, it turns out, are into black magic....another whole set of snaky stuff I've learned about over the years!). 

Do you remember anything unusual about the prior owner(s) or the realtor that might raise a red flag?  A lot of people are unconscious magicians, though, who don't even use any formal ritual. They just set negative or manipulative intent and if someone comes within their orbit who is too psychically open, that person can end up acting the way the magician wants them to act, without thought for their own well-being or personal boundaries.

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

  • Registered: 2006-02-06

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I  wanted to mention that used furniture and antiques can hold some nasty things. Whenever you are buying something like that, make sure you get a good feel about it, dont rely soley on its looks.  Ive seen entities attached to old furniture.   I dont like going into places like Goodwill and Salvation army, because the used clothing and furniture there carry a lot of vibes with them, some of them not so nice!
My daughter bought a brand new house in a new housing development about a year ago. Im pretty sure I had read somewhere that the property had been the site of an Indian Massacre. Too bad they dont disclose these things before you sign on the dotted line!  Ive been working with her on clearing the energy on her property. We also found out (when the leaves came down in the fall and we could see thru the trees and brush clearly) that the former owners of the land, were buried on the property next door, (in the 70's it looks like) headstones and all, right in the front part of the yard.  Actually the street I live on is part of an old slave cemetery . There are still remnants in some yards, but I think most of it was paved over. There is an old black man entity that hangs around one of the properties.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
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Lipstick Mystic wrote:

I think some sort of spell mechanism was in place....but it was a spell that was either cast by the owners who were selling it or even the realtor (a lot of realtors, it turns out, are into black magic....another whole set of snaky stuff I've learned about over the years!).

They probably just think that they are practicing prosperity consciousness, but yeah I've seen some really psychically manipulative stuff from them. Also in towns and cities with a lot of New Ageism, a lot of the realtors are into Feng Shui, which I know is divided into several approaches, one being working with ley lines, but the other branch which is more like interior design is a bunch of charms and trinkets and jars and parchments and mirrors and so forth. Do you think that the second type is black magic - I've wondered about it, I used to have friends who were really into it and paid a lot of money to study it and so forth, but they gained a lot of wealth from all of their "practices."
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A lot of people are unconscious magicians, though, who don't even use any formal ritual. They just set negative or manipulative intent and if someone comes within their orbit who is too psychically open, that person can end up acting the way the magician wants them to act, without thought for their own well-being or personal boundaries.

There are a lot of this type, which makes it easy to let it go, because you think that they are too unconscious and dense to even know that they are doing what they are doing. But I guess that that is a cop-out, this is the type of occult hypnotism that I recently battled. It's hard to tell if it is paranoia or real because the person does not appear to be doing anything "to" you at all.

Treehugger wrote:

I  wanted to mention that used furniture and antiques can hold some nasty things. Whenever you are buying something like that, make sure you get a good feel about it, dont rely soley on its looks.  Ive seen entities attached to old furniture.   I dont like going into places like Goodwill and Salvation army, because the used clothing and furniture there carry a lot of vibes with them, some of them not so nice!

Yes this is true, I really don't want to buy used personal effects or home decor anymore, even though it is considered envionmentally more PC; I find thrift stores repulsive at this point even though I used to love them. I realized that there are a lot of cursed objects. I am getting rid of all this antique Tibetan accessories that I have and any Indonesian trinkets, a lot of these things carry stuff on them, although I have said clearing requests to clear any objects in my possession. I'm going for the zen style, simple, uncluttered, functional and not ornate and decorated with all sorts of symbols, etc.-lala

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I have a friend who worked for a long time clearing out black magic and dark or distressed spirits in houses.  When I met him he noticed I was wearing a silver ring from indonesia.  He suggested I get rid of it.  He told me that in Indo, and particularly Bali where he had spent many years, alot of merchants use black magic in their shops and on their gear in order to bring people back.  When I heard that, it explained alot to me about Bali, both my experiences while there, my only time, and the fact that so many keep going back there over and over.  I never got that.

I reckon yeah, lono, you were 'lured'.  But no doubt it will add to your own growth and understanding.  If you have gained in awareness, then it's all good.  Insane, but good lol

When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace. Jimi Hendrix 
  • Registered: 2006-02-06

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When I have received anything that was used, say from, family members or friends, I do have a cleansing ritual with I use. Somebody brought me a dresser from Goodwill last yr. It didnt feel too bad vibe-wise. So I let it sit in the sun for about a week, and also put a jar of purifed water with sea salt on it, before refininishing it. Sunlight has a cleansing affect. Now its a nice happy accessory to my home. So dont discount anything used, just be choosy what you bring into your home.
My friend had this old antique wooden dentists chair in her dining room. It had godawful vibes. Can you imagine how  many people sat in that chair in agony? They didnt have painless dentistry when this chair was being used! I finally talked her into giving it to her ex-husband. It made a world of difference to the feel of her dining room after that torture device was gone.  Now if I could just get to do something about that huge gothic piece of creepiness in her breakfast nook!! roll

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

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These are all excellent replies.  At least now I know I'm not crazy!  Jennifer, I didn't buy that house (thank Goddess!), but we were just renting.  The woman we were renting from really needed to find good renters because she was taking care of three or four of that manic/ depressive's properties.  All the other properties had horrible renters, one after the other, so we were the only ones she could count on to pay the rent on time.  I sometimes wonder if I didn't answer her call.  She's a really nice older lady who's been caught in a trap of taking care of someone else's problems.  The m/d lady just expects everyone to take care of her-- and they do.

But when the m/d lady lived there and was in a manic phase, she would go downtown and pick up homeless people and "minister to them," bringing them back to her home to live.  After she left the state, she let her brother live there, and he was obviously cuckoo for cocoa puffs as well. 

I also got a message in a meditative state that this house needs to "go back to nature, return to the Mother."  I took this as a sign that the land needs to heal from something much worse than the inhabitants of the house.  This is probably why the squirrels are attacking the house from all sides.  I've never lived anywhere that had destructive squirrels, but I could hear them in the walls, gnawing like they were trying to invade.  I guess they must be Nature's demolition team.

That house isn't in the country, but it's in a relatively unpopulated area, old and quickly becoming abandoned.  Houses on the same street have been razed to the ground, so there are lots of empty lots.  I think this house needs to be razed as well.

This area is very near where one part of  the Trail of Tears ended.  The place where the Creek and Cherokee planted the Council Oak is just across the river.  Strangely, I love the energy of that place.  But perhaps they lost the last of their sick and dying on the other side of the river, where this house is.  Also, I know rivers can keep negativity from crossing.  Perhaps they dumped the last of their negative feelings there before moving on to their new land?

That entire part of town is stagnant, dead, and strange feeling.  The house is just an extension of that. To make matters worse, there's a refinery a couple of blocks away that pumps the most godawful smells you can imagine into the air.

On a side note, we've been having to go back to the old house to finish up the move.  I get sick every time we go-- a burning in my stomach that won't go away.

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Interesting thought about realtors practicing black magic.  Maybe that explains why they include some of the cheesiest people I've ever seen.

Where possible I've given up on having a "buyer's agent" represent me and just talk directly to seller's agents.  Less people to lie to me.