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Topic: Extraterrestrial souls?

Dear Friends
kind regards
I came across a subject about ET souls on Montalk.net forum.
I was wondering if you'd be so kind as to explain this to me.
According to David Icke's books we are all individual consciousness trapped in a matrix but now I have heard of this ET soul subject.
I have a few questions.
1. What types of ET souls are there?
2. How can you deduce if you are an ET soul-how can people find out?
3. Is everyone an ET soul or are they selected?
4. If people are ET souls then when will this information come to the
forefront?
I hope that you can all answer these questions.
If you could get back to me A.S.A.P I'd appreciate it.
yours thankfully
John

Re: Extraterrestrial souls?

Maybe a soul is a soul.  Clothes don't really matter-it's intent.  That is to say the outer garment is not what's so important.

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

3 (edited by Moralman 2004-08-24 13:54:09)

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Dear Manyeagles
kind regards
You raised a good point.
However there has been talk on this forum that certain souls are extraterrestrials in human form and I'd like to know more about the subject.
Here is a link for everyone.........
http://www2.hawaii.edu/~boyne/scott2/ETSouls.html
yours thankfully
John

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"Clothes don't make the man, man makes the clothes."

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Dear Friends
kind regards
I think it may be true that some souls who envision a perfect World or a civilisation are probably from some higher spiritual plane-again I would to see a few explanations about this subject as it is interesting.
Here is a link about ET souls in human form.
http://www.west.net/~simon/Aliensoulsin … Earth.html
and here is another..............
http://www.west.net/~simon/BrainCompute … TRUTH.html
Yours thankfully
John

6 (edited by Auendove 2004-08-25 04:49:01)

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Hi John!

Good day to you.

All of my words are a reflection of my own personal impressions.

Moralman wrote:

1. What types of ET souls are there?

I see you've already done an engine search, but Barbara Marciniak's Bringers of the Dawn goes into this some.

Moralman wrote:

2. How can you deduce if you are an ET soul-how can people find out?

I found out through a number of sources, but the very first was an Akashic reader, and it wasn't much later I met the C's.  Not to mention the various psychic readings through the years where almost everyone of the readers acknowledged the ET soul, or "old soul", being right away.  For those who can "read" energy an ET energy is unmistakeable.

Moralman wrote:

3. Is everyone an ET soul or are they selected?

I'm sorry to sound like I'm correcting your words, I am not being condescending here, but there is no other way to explain this to you without beating around the bush... selection is, I think, incorrect word usage, or not a word choice I would ever use in the context of this question. 

All I can say to this is: ET soul, Earth generated soul, Organic Portal, and whatever else fits the list?  What I think about it is at some point all of these incepted from the same Creator "pool", that there is an equity somewhere in cosmic consciousness where All exists at a base form, and in equity.

If the word "selection" was rephrased in a more appropriate question the answer would be that the ET soul, having consciously evoluted beyond 3D, selected to return to this Earth experience we are living in today.  The word selection as you've used it intimates privlege, though understandable that you would think as much big_smile LOL!, my mind and heart always go to the place of equity. This is where I'm unable to be judgemental.

Moralman wrote:

4. If people are ET souls then when will this information come to the forefront?

big_smile It is as you read Brother/Man.  Maybe all that really matters for now is what you think and do with this information.  As for the general public... it's just a matter of time, or it won't become known at all... you see, who really knows how "all of this" is going to work out? wink

Moralman wrote:

I think it may be true that some souls who envision a perfect World or a civilisation...

John, it is not so much that I "envision a perfect World", it's that outside of my current human experience my soul, in whatever form of vessel it was "living" in (even if that vessel is formless Light energy), has indeed existed in a "perfect world".  I inherently know at a broadest, strongest base point in my being that living in social harmony is indeed possible... though seemingly not here in 3D Land.  At least not yet. It takes a great leap of faith on my part to believe that from all this chaos will actually one day come unification... and still I hold onto that faith as if it is my gold, a direct contrast to the materialism of holding gold in 3D Land.

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Auendove wrote:

   I found out through a number of sources, but the very first was an Akashic reader, and it wasn't much later I met the C's.  Not to mention the various psychic readings through the years where almost everyone of the readers acknowledged the ET soul, or "old soul", being right away.  For those who can "read" energy an ET energy is unmistakeable.

Hi Auendove,

What is it that makes an ET energy unmistakable?   Is it the aura?  The vibe it gives off?  Or something else? 

Thanks!

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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8 (edited by Auendove 2004-08-25 05:57:19)

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lyra wrote:

What is it that makes an ET energy unmistakable?   Is it the aura?  The vibe it gives off?  Or something else?


For some energy readers I've talked to they've said it's like reading the information in the auric field, others read the Akashic record...and for others, myself included, it's about the energetic "vibe", as you call it. wink  And as well, impressions... in other words 3rd eye viewings of "snippets of film" about another person, as well as myself. Imagination? you may ask... the only thing I can say is through experience I'm clearly able to tell the difference.

For me, when I meet someone face to face, and sometimes even on the internet, like on NR, it is like the recognition "washes" over me. Literally, this feels the same as having a bucket of water poured over my head, except it's energy pouring in, and not so weighty either smile.

It's like running across an old school chum 20 years later and that feeling of recognition and all the good times and fun come rushing back to the front of the mind, and they talk their heads off for hours--"You're never going to believe what happened to me!"  And the other one says "Oh yeah? Get a load of this!" And on and on it goes... for hours.  I know because I've done this, hooked up with these kindred ET souls, a number of times now, and it always happens this way.  The recognition is too too much to deny.  There is one NR member wherein a personal relationship has developed (much to my joy), we call ourselves "two peas in a pod" because the depth of our connectiveness has served many times over to reveal just how alike we are.

And lyra, I always didn't have such a solid grip on this, even though I've certainly known there were some people I met that I had soul history with and past/other life memories of, but it really wasn't until less than two years ago after I developed a clear understanding about FRE's that I was able to undoubtedly identify this ET soul energy... though I think I only have this depth of recognition for those who belong to the same FRE as me.  I don't think I would have the same ability, hmmm... ability like an Akashic reader has (an "all knowing" I'll say), to intuite quite as constructively about another and their soul make-up if they were outside of the sphere of my FRE.  Nor would I want to take that kind of resposibility.

Another interesting note, something I think is really cool big_smile--while I was visiting my friend and her family this past weekend she did Buddhist chanting every morning and night.  At one point during this (I was meditating during these chantings) I had a nice energetic opening and subsequent flowing, and found a really interesting new "prayer" position to hold my hands in (I'm going to post about it).

On Monday night at 9:15, even with the TV on and that man-critter I live with talking to me, as big as day in my 3rd eye, and I do literally mean I heard it in my forehead... what did I hear?  My friend's chanting.  And I just sat there and smiled and tuned out the TV and the man-critter, and listened. I called her the next morning and asked her what time she did her chants the evening before, already knowing the answer, her answer of course 9:15 PM. 

This is probably the most pointed story about the connectiveness that reveals the "knowing", but in the late 90's a friend of mine and I would go into her oak grove backyard at 3 AM sometimes and just quietly meditate.  It never, not once, failed that during this time we "saw" the same things. That was something else also. Me, always tryin' to be scientific/objective roll, had us write down what we saw before we told one another, twice, and it was always the same... cool, huh?  But she and I could complete each other's sentences too.

Holy spumoni lyra!  I could probably go on about this forever! Sheesh! smile

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Dear Auendove
kind regards
I have a few questions............
1. You have stated that you are an ET soul but what kind of ET soul?
A nordic or a reptilian?
2. By the way in your soul form what do you actually look like?
I think that this World is filled with alot of Draconian souls or young souls who have alot to learn.
I think that the World can improve if these types of souls leave the Earth and go elsewhere.............this is apparently what will happen after 2012.
Here is a third question.........
3. If you are an ET soul(I believe you) what role will you play in this World after 2012?
After all being an ET soul you must have some type of important role?
Before I came across the subject of ET souls I thought that the soul was only consciousness but obviously in some cases it has an ET identity-I do agree though that a soul has to match the DNA into which it is born into.
I don't know about being an ET soul but I have three symptoms of an apparent ET soul.
A. I am individual minded.
B. Very few people understand me but they tolerate me.
C. I always envision a better World in my head-A civilisation of utopia where justice, fairness and richness fills the Earth.
I am always thinking into the future(or maybe a vision of a past civilisation) of heaven on Earth.
This Earth can improve it just needs to be ridden of immature and Draconian souls.
The strange thing is that although a person may be older in the flesh the soul of a young person may be more older and advanced.
Most of the people I come across both old and young-I feel that they are immature souls and that my soul is older.
I expect you have this feeling too?
yours thankfully
John

Re: Extraterrestrial souls?

Hey Moralman and all,

Here's how I see things. A soul is a soul. But, a soul will acquire a certain vibration according to what it has learned along its journey. That is, an 'ET soul' from our perspective on Earth would have to be one that was previously incarnating in another realm, OR resided in a level of consciousness (read: density) that no longer required incarnation to learn. All souls are essentially 'extraterrestrial.' They don't hang around Earth constantly, although they may reincarnate here over and over. I suppose, for semantics sake, we can say an non-ET soul is a soul that has not yet advanced past 3D and has been reincarnating here on Earth in a human body for quite some time.

Remember, all souls 'look' the same because to 'look' like something is only a physical concept. The physical representation of a soul would probably just be a ball or point of light. A soul in the non-physical realms is a point of self-aware consciousness.

11 (edited by lyra 2004-08-25 08:46:46)

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Thanks for you reply Auendove!  smile 

Seeker............

seeker wrote:

That is, an 'ET soul' from our perspective on Earth would have to be one that was previously incarnating in another realm

That's a great way of putting it. 

Here's something I just thought of.................Earth hasn't always been around.  Are the "Earth souls", or non-ET souls that are here strictly attached to Earth then?   Or will they go someplace else once Earth is gone?   CAN they go and incarnate someplace else?    If they can go someplace else, then have they just moved up the ranks to become an ET soul?  wink 

I'm not sure if I'm wording this right.  I'm at work and trying to hurry, so maybe this isn't making sense.    I do know that I was once talking to a blind pyschic woman that Tom put me in touch with and she laughed that we're ALL "from someplace else", ie, ET souls.  Basically saying I guess that even the "natives" to this planet have incarnated elsewhere at some point in their spiritual evolution.   I do wonder though if there are soul energies who have only ever been attached to Earth and have done all of their evolving here.   I don't know how it works.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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12 (edited by zonabi 2004-08-25 10:18:04)

Re: Extraterrestrial souls?

i think, for the most part; all souls have been elsewhere, especially when you take into account how new our solar system is and how new the earth is. that means, logically, Souls travelled here from somewhere else (their origin)

then, theres the possibility that our souls are also living in other places at this very moment right now.

and THEN, you must realize that Time doesnt exist for the Soul, so even if we consider that some "non-et" souls are 'fresh' on earth, you must acknowledge the fact that Time doesnt exist for the Soul, so its existance spans across all ages of the universe.

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here's the real question;

Are SOULS born somewhere? are they CREATED somewhere?

OR

Are there a "Set" amount of SOULS and they incarnate and Do their Thing all the time ?

We can assume that the SOUL is indestructable, that it never Dies.
*BUT* are Souls CREATED/BORN ??

umm, i guess i should give my 2 cents.
If souls are omnipresent, as in Time doesnt exist for them etc... and they are INDESTRUCTABLE, i think this seems to lean toward the "SET AMOUND OF SOULS" theory...

your thoughts ?

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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moralman wrote:

After all being an ET soul you must have some type of important role?

ALL SOULS have important roles, my friend.

regarding your comment on "draconian souls should leave"
i agree, but listen to what i've heard;

seperation is the first obvious choice when someone does not like something.

but it does not accomplish anything, other than POST-PONING the inevitable confrontation in the future.

see, i heard that *they* tried removing the STS forces from planets/worlds before, they took the STS from Lyra and placed them on Vega. Still had problems. They took the STS from Vega and Gave them an Entire Star System to inhabit: Orion. They still had problems. see, even if you take away the bad and put it elsewhere, it will surface/return again one day.

this is related to your psychological state as well. repressing bad memories or fears will only make it worse; im sure you've heard of this. its better to "face your fears" as they say.

Thus, it is claimed that the Earth is to be the final integration point between polarities, meaning to settle the age-long conflict between STS and STO in all three above mentioned Star Systems.

..... just some more info ive read.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

14 (edited by Moralman 2004-08-25 10:28:30)

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seeker wrote:

Hey Moralman and all,

Here's how I see things. A soul is a soul. But, a soul will acquire a certain vibration according to what it has learned along its journey. That is, an 'ET soul' from our perspective on Earth would have to be one that was previously incarnating in another realm, OR resided in a level of consciousness (read: density) that no longer required incarnation to learn. All souls are essentially 'extraterrestrial.' They don't hang around Earth constantly, although they may reincarnate here over and over. I suppose, for semantics sake, we can say an non-ET soul is a soul that has not yet advanced past 3D and has been reincarnating here on Earth in a human body for quite some time.

Remember, all souls 'look' the same because to 'look' like something is only a physical concept. The physical representation of a soul would probably just be a ball or point of light. A soul in the non-physical realms is a point of self-aware consciousness.

Dear Seeker
kind regards
I think you have hit the nail on the head and have given a conclusive answer to my questions.
Perhaps the ET souls in human form(whoever they are) and the Nordics will populate the Earth after 2012 to bring the World into a higher Moral realm of consciousness once the Draconian and immature souls have been removed.
Therefore in this sense the World will improve.
This Worlds good inhabitants should inherit this Earth-it isn't fair that evil has such a powerful grip on this planet.
I feel sorry for souls who keep re-incarnating on this planet...........the World has been in a Satanic tip for centuries under the rule of the Illuminati, apostate Popes and the secret society networks.
However things are bound to improve.
I thank you for your bottom line answer.
yours thankfully
John

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Dear Zonabi
kind regards
Yet another bottom line answer.
I believe that ALL souls have an important role to play BUT lets face it...........how many souls actually desire or want to play a role in "the bigger picture"?
I think that it will take a miracle from some other force to remove the Draconians.
Montalk has stated previously that the World is moving into a higher realm where immature souls will have to find somewhere else to develop.
I don't want to be on a planet where I continually have to keep my guard up because of immature souls who are acting evil and immoral.
Things have to change-we have seen our parents and grandparents live through this and we have to correct it or hope for a correction somehow.
I want to live in a World where everyone or most people are good and if injustice happens then punishment is given.
I can't wait untill this reality becomes THE reality on Earth and I believe that I'll see this in my lifetime.
yours thankfully
John