Re: Stuart Wilde

genero wrote:

Hi Visavis.  I dont have much time to post, so i will keep it short.  Stuart is no longer here in the physical like you and I.  he has gone through fusion and married his egoself with his shadow or mirror self.  So what ever he may or may not have done years ago, be sure of one thing.  He has redeemed himself.  Do you really believe stuart needs to use an aeroplane to travel anymore,nut, the intiates dream body is his aeroplane.  Stu is now more light then physical now. Many people will attack me for saying this but I have nothing to defend, not even the truth.

That's an interesting comment, Genero.  Can you tell me whether you've seen this light body with physical eyes, or is it an intuition?  I understand what you're saying about the man he may have been even a couple of years ago may not be who he is now.  I can't speak to whether that's true personally, but I do believe people can change.

It occurs to me that at the time I had my run-in with him, he was fairly recently disillusioned with the world and what he had seen.  I know that when people first begin to see the dark, that's all they see for a while.  It makes a person bitter and paranoid, but what makes the difference is whether they come out of it or not.  Some do.  Many don't, and they get stuck there.

Re: Stuart Wilde

Hi Lono,
You percive the devine light using your whole body or one way of saying it is you are using the souls eyes.  However it is possible to see the etheric with your physical eyes or at least at first you will think you are using your eyes.  Feeling,vision and a new syntax of awarness are much more concrete aspects of the soul then intuition which resonates as kind of vague.  Let me say that for Stuart to say to you to clean out your mouse whole is not unique, he says it to all of us.  And he closed down his web site not because of you my friend but because he felt the gouls were harbouring and monitoring the forum too much.  Stuart wasn't being paranoid, this was an actual perception that was correct.  Believe me friend, Stu has been harrased by more gouls then all of us on this site put together, anyone speaking truth with a large audience sooner or later gets targeted and either publically humiliated or killed.  He was lucky, he retreated in the nick of time.  P.s I'm still cleaning out my mouse hole. Its not just filled with the darkness we arn't aware of but by the pain that surrounds us in other people...... It is ancient pain, the very pain that has entraped humanity

Re: Stuart Wilde

Here is an update that Stuart Wilde recently emailed.  He writes: "We are at the Final Cusp and history will say that 2007 was the year the world changed forever."  This overlaps with the "5th day" of the Calleman interpretation of the Mayan Calendar being from Nov 2006 to Nov 2006.  Large amounts of positive energy streaming in.  2007 is upon us!



Year End Updates

Stuart Wilde
December 29th, 2006

GPS Satellites

A while ago I saw a strange and beautiful vision of tanks in the desert, it looked to me like Iraq, and in the mini-video clip that I saw in my mind’s eye, a butterfly flew into the scene and it landed at the rear of a tank, which then flipped over backwards on to its roof. I had a feeling there would be a catastrophic failure of global satellite control systems, I’ve seen the same vision several times now. This is also linked to television systems.

Morph TV

Television like the GPS system is vulnerable and I’ve v seen loads of visions (fifty perhaps) of the television system failing for a few days or a week each time, and other visions of how the broadcast signal is liable to be hacked and how the official Grand Lies are vulnerable to contradiction.

The TV system is very much a part of our human shadow made manifest (externalized) in the sitting room for us to watch. Of course, people don’t usually link the evil we see on telly with the evil inside of us. The cold, silent disdain we have for other humans is the same cold arrogance and disdain our leaders have for ethnic groups they don’t approve of that they want to bomb.

The fat potentate on a fancy chair in a gilded room, meeting with other important potentates, is very much our ego going about day-to-day seeking observers, cloaked in the raiment of its importance. It is all a shadow play, and how you redeem yourself is you wake to the shadow within and incorporate it in your life. So you become both light and dark.

Diana

The Diana visions have been quiet for a while and Lord Stevens’ enquiry into the death came out as another whitewash for the authorities, so that was a bit of a disappointment. I have eased back on posting these visions, as it is rather delicate now for if the story ever comes out in full then murderers in high places come out with it.

The aristocracy is very dangerous and not to be messed with. One day I was writing a quirky article about a certain obscure, upper-crust nob with sticky fingers (blood) and I left my desk to sit on the sofa for a few minutes break. While I was doing that my computer went into a calamitous meltdown for no apparent reason. My Diana article and all my word files were wiped out and even Microsoft Word and a few other software programs and a thousand old emails blipped off the screen never to be seen again. Brilliant eh?

The nob’s name begins with a "G" as in "G" for goo. I tried Google for a copy of Microsoft Word but I had no luck so I coughed up $199.00 for a proper copy courtesy of ya man "G", like in "G" for Gates.

The Dollar

The dollar is trying to go into a meltdown. But the Fed’s keep holding it up. It has fallen recently from 1.25 to the Euro to 1.33 and then it firmed up to 1.31. But late in the day on Christmas Eve the Fiscal Report of the US Government was cleverly published once traders had gone away for their holidays. In that report it says that the government’s current debt liability for all it debts is 53 trillion dollars ($53,000 billion), and that that level of debt is unsustainable and it can never be met or repaid. Essentially that report admits the government is bankrupt.

When a currency collapses the government concerned always passes exchange control regulation to make sure citizens don’t sell the rubbish and flee into other currencies. So for Americans to have a bit of money overseas out of the dollar in the Swiss francs or the Euro is good tactics. I’ve talked of this many times before so no point it discussing here again.

The Final Cusp

We are at the Final Cusp and history will say that 2007 was the year the world changed forever. We are in an Armageddon and while it may be a fight between Judeo-Christian psychopaths and Moslem ones in its outer manifestation; internally it is more the Armageddon of your soul. Will your silent darkness carry you to the digital hell worlds, or will you wake up and save yourself and go to the light?

Let’s pop over to the Last Chance saloon and have a drink and discuss it.

The dark is very sneaky and it can con you into thinking you are spiritual because you go to church, or because you have a diaper on ya head and you do yoga at four a.m. But all that is a trick so you never see the dark inside you and uncover it. Your shadow is the CIA of your mind, it controls without you being aware of it. You have to work on it now or it will close around and never let you out.

Oil

Oil is the black blood of our humanity, the ego’s desire for itself and power and velocity, which of course is an illusion of importance and grandeur. Like the workaholic that is very important and very busy and off to discuss very important matters to do with promoting its specialness. Black blood blinds you; it is a form of liquid hate for Gaia.

So for humans to see properly once more, our black blood has to be taken from the collective global body and cleaned. It’s the dialysis for our collective human soul. So you can see why the oil has to go. Sooner or later the Jews or the Americans will attack Iran that should be enough to close the spigot, but then again I predicted about six years ago that the House of Saud would collapse. At that time the ideas seems ridiculous but now you can see that if insurgents attack the House of Saud (as they will) and if they get hold of all the Saudi oil then anything could happen.

Once the oil goes the global ego dies and humans have to become real and they have to come off their ivory towers and work together to survive. It is like a New Age workshop on a global scale. Hugs and caring and sharing and love and stuff - might work.

The loss of the oil is beautiful and global warming will be cured overnight so that it is a good thing. I said some time ago, get rid of your SUV while you still can, for soon it will be just an expensive ornament, and the only oil you will see will be dripping out of the gearbox mixed with rust. The predicted oil crisis is more or less about now.

The Superior Force

All evil meets a greater evil up ahead and it fights it to the death. So Hitler fought the Americans and the Russians, who then became the super powers. The 'superior force' rule is not a matter of "if" but "when". My guess is that we are just about to have a jolly interesting "when".

Safety

Safety and a final redemption lay with the Three Graces, which are generosity, tenderness and respect. If you are genuinely warm and you have the graces in copious amounts in your heart and you love all humans and you respect Gaia, you don't need to ask about safety, as you will always be safe. But if you don't have those aspects then you have to proceed with caution, as there maybe a "when" up the road ahead of you, like on When-esday or perhaps Thursday.

I mention this in passing, as it’s very hard for the ego to comprehend that you may be the hidden evil the Forces of Light are trying to rub out. If you wake to that reality in time it quickens the mind and impels you to action (or not).

The Scattered Camelots

In the olden days, I spoke of the scattered Camelots, dimensional anomalies that were here one earth that humans could walk into. For a long time it was a feeling or sometimes the presence of an anomaly was indicated by a flash of violet light. But now I have started to see them for real, and I’ve seen humans walk in and disappear.

I am rather pleased about that, as for a long time I had to take it on trust and it could have all been a load of cobblers, but once I saw it three times in a row, in three different countries, I knew it was right. There must be a host of aspects I don’t know yet, but essentially the scattered Camelots are real. We’ll need them later.

The Morph

The Morph has come down very strongly in recent weeks and there are small cubes in it that many of the Redeemer’s Club members have reported seeing, appearing in front of them. Those cubes are information downloads of some kind, and I believe they are there for you, whether you can see them or not. People have to go quick now as it is all upon us, the Great Unraveling as I call it, so that could be the reason for the suddenly appearance of the multi-colored digital cubes.

Humans have to morph up to another level...pronto.

Ayahuasca

I’m attending a couple of Aya’ weeks in Ecuador at the end of April and early May. They are for the RC members but I’ve put in a few places each week for any "A" list members that want to come. I am not posting it to the sw.com site. It is just for us lot.

Here are the dates for those of you who are interested.

Dates:
April 26, 2007 - May 01, 2007 (Group 1)
May 02, 2007 - May 07, 2007 (Group 2)

The resort is very nice and you get your own room and many have fireplaces so it is rather more up-market that what is usually offered.

The price for those that are not a member of the Redeemer’s Club is
EUR 1650/week/person.

Please clicketh www.redeemersclub.com for details if you fancy the trip. The complete details will be available and posted at the Redeemer's Club site beginning of January 2007.


Bye for now,
love, love,
Stuie Wilde

Re: Stuart Wilde

wandering1 wrote:

GPS Satellites

A while ago I saw a strange and beautiful vision of tanks in the desert, it looked to me like Iraq, and in the mini-video clip that I saw in my mind’s eye, a butterfly flew into the scene and it landed at the rear of a tank, which then flipped over backwards on to its roof. I had a feeling there would be a catastrophic failure of global satellite control systems, I’ve seen the same vision several times now. This is also linked to television systems.

Morph TV

Television like the GPS system is vulnerable and I’ve v seen loads of visions (fifty perhaps) of the television system failing for a few days or a week each time, and other visions of how the broadcast signal is liable to be hacked and how the official Grand Lies are vulnerable to contradiction.

Looks like the sun is going crazy, so lets burn some satellites and blackout the
power grid.

Ohhhh Lord! Burn it !! Burn!!! lol:lol::lol:

Bye, Pictus

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80 (edited by lyra 2006-12-30 17:03:38)

Re: Stuart Wilde

Yeah, I got this in my email and wanted to post it, but then held off.  I knew somebody else would and so just waited.  The reason I didn't post it is because I'd only be posting to mostly disagree with the things he's saying.  hmm

Something I've noticed about Stuart is that he does preach a lot of "judgment."  The idea that we will be, and already are, being "graded" by some external forces, whatever they are, and we're going to be sifted and even snuffed out, according to how we measure up. 

Stuart Wilde from the "A List" article wrote:

Safety and a final redemption lay with the Three Graces, which are generosity, tenderness and respect. If you are genuinely warm and you have the graces in copious amounts in your heart and you love all humans and you respect Gaia, you don't need to ask about safety, as you will always be safe. But if you don't have those aspects then you have to proceed with caution, as there maybe a "when" up the road ahead of you, like on When-esday or perhaps Thursday.

Does this strike anybody else as being another flavor of mainstream religion?  The same sort of attitude that we've been conditioned with since infancy, how we're just screw up children who always need to be answering to higher authority, forever looking for our "gold star" and praise, looking to hear that we made the grade and "passed."   That forces outside of ourselves dictate whether we live or die, whether we pass or fail, whether we get to go or stay.  I've enjoyed the Stuie material for several years now, own like four of his books, have a binder full of his article print outs, and recommend his site on my own site, but this is an ongoing concept of his that I don't agree with.   His whole schtick as of late has shifted onto the concept of "The Redeemer's Club" and how we need to redeem ourselves, and that if we don't, our souls will be judged by these forces, whoever they are, and we're going to either continue to the finish line or get killed off.   I don't agree.  I believe we, as in our higher selves, make those choices, not these big bad scary oogedy boogedy forces that be.  But that's just me, and who knows, maybe I'm wrong.

In talking about the Stuie thing with somebody else, what came out was that Stuie really believes he has things figured out, but in actuality he seems to be wrong about a lot of things.  He doesn't even fully understand the visions he receives in the Morph, let alone about what's going on in this reality.  I personally think he's prone to misinterpretation.

Looking at the vision he mentions in this year end update that was just posted - the butterfly landing on the tank and the tank flipping over.  Stuie interprets it as being something about "I had a feeling there would be a catastrophic failure of global satellite control systems, I’ve seen the same vision several times now. This is also linked to television systems."

?  How about "the butterfly/chaos theory" ?  I mean, that seems a little bit more fitting.  You know, the beating of a butterfly's wings creating a hurricane on the other side of the planet.  One seemingly small thing - represented by the butterfly -  is going to eventually lead to some huge changes and outcomes, possibly involving the toppling of the militaristic regime that wants to control the world.  Something along those lines.   

So if he's not even able to understand and interpret all these visions that he's apparently bombarded with, then how in the world am I supposed to take his other warnings at face value regarding how things are with reality?  I can't. 

Also, he's prone to these broad stroke, kind of off base generalizations about what the deal is with things, such as oil, for example:



Stuart Wilde from the "A List" article wrote:

Oil is the black blood of our humanity, the ego’s desire for itself and power and velocity, which of course is an illusion of importance and grandeur. Like the workaholic that is very important and very busy and off to discuss very important matters to do with promoting its specialness. Black blood blinds you; it is a form of liquid hate for Gaia.

There are a lot of things going on with the whole oil thing, but "the ego's desire for itself and power and velocity" and the "illusion of importance and grandeur" is probably actually not it.   Tom/Montalk had some good ideas he shared about conspiracies surrounding why TPTB insist on a fossil fuel driven society, and personally his ideas made more sense than this. 

Now, there are multiple reasons and perspectives to consider, no one person has all the answers as we know, but Stuie is no longer one of my fave people to listen to when I'm looking for insight into what's going on in the world, unfortunately.  But there are still good points to be found in his work, and I'll continue to read whatever new writings he puts out.  Although, it'll probably be with a lot of frowning at my computer screen since that seems to have been the case for the past year whenever I've read his stuff.  wink   But, even if I don't agree with something he says I'll stick it on the back burner versus completely dismissing it and throwing it out, 'cause hey, you never know.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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81 (edited by Lono 2006-12-30 17:53:10)

Re: Stuart Wilde

Lyra, I've gotten kind of the same feeling for his last few emails, including this new A list one.  Consider  this part you bolded:

If you are genuinely warm and you have the graces in copious amounts in your heart and you love all humans and you respect Gaia, you don't need to ask about safety, as you will always be safe.

Now, I'm all for respect for Gaia, yes.  But this part about loving all humans means, according to Stuie, that I'm just not destined to make it. smile  Sorry, folks.  I barely tolerate the vast majority of people I encounter, as bad as that sounds.  Now, I am compassionate toward them and try to be kind, but I just can't feel the same way about them as I do animals.

Re: Stuart Wilde

Lono wrote:

Lyra, I've gotten kind of the same feeling for his last few emails, including this new A list one.

Glad I'm not the only one!   big_smile  Seriously.   I was wondering if anybody else out there was seeing this too.

Lono wrote:

Consider  this part you bolded....Now, I'm all for respect for Gaia, yes.  But this part about loving all humans means, according to Stuie, that I'm just not destined to make it. smile  Sorry, folks.  I barely tolerate the vast majority of people I encounter, as bad as that sounds.  Now, I am compassionate toward them and try to be kind, but I just can't feel the same way about them as I do animals.

Yeah, I can understand and relate to this as well.  I've mentioned here and there on the forum that I'm shooting for "neutrality" more so than love when it comes to a lot of the so-called people on this planet.   I know hate and discord isn't the way to go, but frankly, I don't know if I'm capable of full on "love" for a lot of who is running around out there.  So I aim for neutrality.  It's better than mad at least. 

The weird part is, I'll tell you "Oh, honestly, I don't have love for humanity..." and it seems to me that I don't.  I don't normally feel all warm and fuzzy about the general population, I just try to live my life and stay out of their way and be as invisible as possible.  But then there will be these moments that sneak up on me indicating something very different going on deep down, hidden under the crusty surface layer that has to interact with the world.  wink   Like this one time last year I was driving to work in the morning.  I was stuck at a red light, watching cars from the right side of the intersection passing in front of me as they made their left hand   turn.  I had an "urge" you could say to look at the people in the cars as they passed by in front of me.  "Look at them...really LOOK at them..." was the urge.  I had resistance to it...no...I don't want to.....and not because I hated them, but because I knew it was going to be the opposite reaction.  But I did anyway, I really looked into the faces of every driver who passed in front of me.....one after the other after the other....and burst into tears.   I don't know why.  But it was like in looking in their faces I felt "the human condition."  All these people driving to work, going about their lives.........prisoners.  I saw the human prisoner condition in everybody's face as they passed before me.   

Yes, it's cheesy, BUT, I thought I'd share that.  Maybe this is what Stuie means when he says "have love for humanity" I don't know. I've been very confused and conflicted trying to figure out "Do I love humanity?"  I think I do.  I don't normally go around feeling like I do, but deep down there's something there that normally doesn't have a chance to emerge.  I don't actively try to hurt people and create chaos and mayhem, and try to help the world where I can.  I guess that's love.  I don't know.  Who knows!

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: Stuart Wilde

lyra wrote:

Yes, it's cheesy, BUT, I thought I'd share that.  Maybe this is what Stuie means when he says "have love for humanity" I don't know. I've been very confused and conflicted trying to figure out "Do I love humanity?"  I think I do.  I don't normally go around feeling like I do, but deep down there's something there that normally doesn't have a chance to emerge.  I don't actively try to hurt people and create chaos and mayhem, and try to help the world where I can.  I guess that's love.  I don't know.  Who knows!

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.  While I go on and on about how I don't love humanity much, people in my life perceive me as being a very caring, loving person.  Oftentimes, I wonder where the heck that comes from.  I'm just very selective these days about who I even let in, so I have no idea where these people are seeing the "love."  But I do have moments exactly as you described in your post, and it's almost overwhelming.  I sometimes wonder if I don't keep that love in a tightly closed compartment because it would just be too much to bear if I let it all out.

Funny story this reminds me of:  I used to work with a guy named Mike who continually proclaimed to all the people in our department that he didn't care about any of us, and didn't really like us.  One day we all came to work and found a large muffin on each of our desks.  Mike was quietly sitting in his corner cubicle eating his muffin, and without looking up he said, "Don't think this means I care about you guys."  smile

Maybe it's better to really care and not admit it than it is to proclaim your love for everyone and not mean a word of it.

Re: Stuart Wilde

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YOUR points in #80  http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/Emots%20and%20Motion/eusa_clap.gif


Compared to:

EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING is GOING TO MAKE IT - It's DESTINY - The CHOICE AND DECISION was Exercised ‘Long Ago‘.......

From:

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2139


Re-Member:

Everything In This zone IS distorted

NOT what it SEEMS to be

Like, ’The Tangle Box’



When WE Leave This Time,

EVERYTHING WILL BE HEALED

And Incomprehensively Different

BY DESIGN


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Re: Stuart Wilde

I have +- the same feeling as you girls, I think that we have some
universal love, but the humanity do too much shit, think too much shit
and all that creates a dark “mist"/hard life and makes me very tired “body and soul".
Funny some +- 3 weeks ago I had something +- like Lyra had, it was
one of these before dawn times here at home.

Bye, Pictus

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Re: Stuart Wilde

Yes much of the time it is almost too hard to see through all the crap with people.

Sometimes when I am out and about it all seems so different.  A few days ago we went to one of the parks nearish to us, and went down near the lake.  We had a pair of binoculars to watch the birds with, and I had my camera - took some photos of the swans and ducks.

As we sat there I spent some moments watching everyone coming and going.  People walking their dogs, the kids coming down to the waters edge to feed the birds - so eager and full of joy.  And there and then humanity just seemed so peaceful and content – and then from deep down I feel love and compassion for them!  Away from all this everyone rushes around a lot; most of us live in either small or large urban areas.  Whenever I go out into the country for extended periods I always get the same peaceful feeling as at that park.  And when I watch people in those places there isn't any rushing, or anger or fear.  For the most part they just seem happy to be.

Yet in the cities for many of the people I see - I struggle to not feel contempt towards them.  Yet even then there are the occasional moments when I just see their humanity and feel compassion. 

Who knows what humans would have been like had we not been influenced by greed and control.

Lyra, about Stuart Wilde - I have often felt the same recently when he gives interpretations of his visions.  Sometimes it feels so off-base that I really wonder where he is coming from.  Then I consider if perhaps it is deliberate to try and get people to think for themselves a little.  Probably not though.  I was looking at a video of one of his old seminars on Google - judging  by the clothes and hair style of the audience it must have been late 80's early 90's.  And Stuart was all very relaxed and charismatic.  To me Stuart often sounds like he is spaced-out - it's just the way his voice is.  But it was noticeably less like that back then.  Maybe too much Ayahuasca big_smile

87 (edited by Blue 2006-12-31 07:00:58)

Re: Stuart Wilde

What I found interesting about SW's post were his constant references to the battle being within ourselves.

This is a constant them of late for me, of late, and under guidance I have been starting to take responsibility for my thoughts
and actions, and their linkages to actual events in the greater physical world.

SW
"The Final Cusp

We are at the Final Cusp and history will say that 2007 was the year the world changed forever. We are in an Armageddon
and while it may be a fight between Judeo-Christian psychopaths and Moslem ones in its outer manifestation;
internally it is more the Armageddon of your soul. Will your silent darkness carry you to the digital hell worlds, or will you wake up and save yourself and go to the light?

Let’s pop over to the Last Chance saloon and have a drink and discuss it.

The dark is very sneaky and it can con you into thinking you are spiritual because you go to church, or because you
have a diaper on ya head and you do yoga at four a.m. But all that is a trick so you never see the dark inside you
and uncover it. Your shadow is the CIA of your mind, it controls without you being aware of it.
You have to work on it now or it will close around and never let you out.

We have to save ourselves. Not be saved by a redeemer.

Sowelu also had a very good point http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 95&p=2

"
I'm aware that most awakening folks attribute this essential glitch in humanity to some outside influence by nefarious beings, perhaps tweaking DNA or programming our minds or what-have-you, but believing such things will never resolve the issue. It leaves us beholden to something we can never claim in our own purview, and that isn't truth."

Also from the SevenRays site : http://sevenraystoday.com/plea.htm

For thousands of years man has suffered under illusions and delusions of fearful beliefs and misunderstandings. Some were created intentionally to control other people, (the concepts of hell, a devil, demons, evil forces...) and some were born out of misunderstood experiences, but all are false and they are the bases of what continues to hold the Earth under such oppression and separation from God and your Families of Light in the higher dimensions... Home.

In many cases what the Light Workers are teaching is no better than, and in some cases worse than the fear based beliefs of traditional religions. Fear based misunderstandings and superstitions from times past are still being repeated and taught as truth today. They are being reinforced instead of overcome!

It is time to go beyond fear based belief in evil forces and negative entities, being vulnerable to outside beings, whether you perceive them as disincarnate entities or aliens; and the Higher Self being anything but whole and untouchable in the Light.

It is time to go beyond the fascination with the trauma and drama of beliefs in devastating Earth Changes, governmental conspiracies, and alien abductions. These things are illusions and misunderstood experiences, reinforced by people believing them, repeating them, and trying to convince other people that they are real. As good intentioned as people are who teach these things, they are holding the Earth back from moving fully out of fear and illusion and into the Light of greater understanding.

It is time to teach unconditional Love and Power

There is even the current David Icke thread, then young Mr Zejith_themis chipped in with the wonderfully weird

A cute tale of a trip up the qabalistic tree of life, Alice in Wonderland-style.

"The Wake World: A Tale for Babes and Sucklings (With explanatory notes in Latin and Hebrew for the use of the Wise and Prudent)"

http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/libers/liber095.pdf

In this tale, the princess is led through the many mansions in the netherworlds, and they keep passing rooms where
souls have advanced, but then  become stuck on certain aspects of understanding and effectively end thier journey without
ever reaching thier destination.


I feel that David Icke, Stuart Wild and even Noble Realms and the like are actually doing a very good job, in helping to
wake people up from thier trance state, and realise that there is something not quite right in the world. The fact that they
get their interprations wrong doesnt matter, they helped us to wake up, by making loud scary noises.

But the mistake is to then get ensconsed in those ideals and conspiracies, and stagnate in a never ending spiral of fresh
conspiracies and new illusions. I feel these poeple/sites are just stepping stones on the path to awakening, and whilst some
must stay behind to 'man the fort', the others should keep moving, and spinning ...always spinning.

I dont know if the Queen is a flesh eating reptile, and Alien Grays are us from the past/future/middle earth/Atlantis, whatever, what I do know is I can only change the world by changing me, The Kingdom of Heaven is within, and so therefore, the War in heaven is within, not without.

And finally, talk about having a 'love for humanity' isnt supposed to be a warm fuzzy wuzzy feeling (as you all know).

Love is the absence of fear. Once we realise we are all one, all stuck in the same prison like conditions, then we can stare
at the other drivers in the cars, without fear, and say, 'see! -underneath it all, the outer facade-  he/she is just the same as me'

Re: Stuart Wilde

Great post, Blue.  I think you're onto something with the "getting stuck" part.  The rest was pure eloquence and beauty!

Marcus, interesting take on how SW has changed since his earlier days.  I had noticed that exact same difference when I posted on his message board (mentioned the posts way earlier on this thread).  I had just been confused, not hostile, and I wanted to know how come the change was so drastic.  Stuie didn't even want to admit that there was a change!  He insisted it was simply a progression, whereas I could clearly see a radical difference in his approach to everything.

But David Icke had made a radical change as well, from his straight-laced newscaster days to the turquoise wearing prophet.  It all has to so with an influence coming over you, one you can't fathom. 

Here's the rub:  say you're just some guy or gal mucking through life when suddenly you begin to get visions.  Do you question them to the nth, thereby causing them to go away, or do you present them to the world as you've received them?  I question to much, which is possibly why I'm not a prophet. smile

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Re: Stuart Wilde

Blue wrote:

What I found interesting about SW's post were his constant references to the battle being within ourselves.

This is a constant them of late for me, of late, and under guidance I have been starting to take responsibility for my thoughts and actions, and their linkages to actual events in the greater physical world.

I agree with the concept of taking responsibility for one's actions....I just don't necessarily agree with the idea that there will be outside forces determining our destiny, as Stuart has been saying for the past 2 years or so.  I don't claim to know what's going on here in this reality, but he's claiming external judgment, and I just don't necessarily buy it. 

Now, here's what I'd really like to address in your post.  Bolded words my own, "HOLY CRAPPOLY! yikes " emphasis:


SevenRays site : [url wrote:

http://sevenraystoday.com/plea.htm[/url]

For thousands of years man has suffered under illusions and delusions of fearful beliefs and misunderstandings. Some were created intentionally to control other people, (the concepts of hell, a devil, demons, evil forces...) and some were born out of misunderstood experiences, but all are false and they are the bases of what continues to hold the Earth under such oppression and separation from God and your Families of Light in the higher dimensions... Home.

In many cases what the Light Workers are teaching is no better than, and in some cases worse than the fear based beliefs of traditional religions. Fear based misunderstandings and superstitions from times past are still being repeated and taught as truth today. They are being reinforced instead of overcome!

It is time to go beyond fear based belief in evil forces and negative entities, being vulnerable to outside beings, whether you perceive them as disincarnate entities or aliens; and the Higher Self being anything but whole and untouchable in the Light.

It is time to go beyond the fascination with the trauma and drama of beliefs in devastating Earth Changes, governmental conspiracies, and alien abductions. These things are illusions and misunderstood experiences, reinforced by people believing them, repeating them, and trying to convince other people that they are real.  As good intentioned as people are who teach these things, they are holding the Earth back from moving fully out of fear and illusion and into the Light of greater understanding.

It is time to teach unconditional Love and Power

eeeek!   Where do I even begin.

For starters....."Seven Rays" website.......very new agey.   The source of this particular quote is channeled information by "St. Germain."  That in itself means 99.9999% chance of being total bunk.  Then you look at what they're actually saying here....if I'm understanding this correctly, and I'm not mistaken....it's saying aliens aren't real, earth changes aren't real, there aren't any government conspiracies, and anybody who believes in them is mistaken, and they're just going around perpetuating lies and "Fear!" when they tell others about this stuff.

I don't think so.  This "St. Germain channelling of the Seven Rays" is what's bunk, imo!

Now, to clarify - I'm ALL about the "no fear" thing.  Drop the fear, connect to positive stuff, because it ultimately has more power than the negative - I've seen it, I know that to be true.  Also, no victimhood.  Take responsibility for you say and what you do.  Etc.  Etc.  BUT....that doesn't mean that abductions and conspiracies aren't real and aren't happening.  !!!!!!

These new age sites are all the same - put their heads in the sand, deny what's happening, and tell their followers that it's all an illusion, you're just perpetuating fear.  You're holding yourself, and even the entire PLANET, back! 

Seriously, these people need to get their heads out of their rumps and get a clue.   I can deny abductions til the cows come home, but that doesn't mean they're not happening to mass amounts of people here in 3D.  Before I even knew I was being abducted I was being taken.   I was in complete naive oblivion...but they were still happening.  It had NOTHING to do with my "fear."  Because again, I was oblivious and didn't even know it was happening.  So how can "St. Germain of the Seven Rays" explain that?

pssh.

Very annoying.

The kicker is, I originally was going to go out to do stuff, but decided I didn't feel like going, and instead came here and really read through what this particular post was saying, and decided to stay and compile a response to it.....which is probably not a good idea, as it's probably going to ruffle feathers, as most people don't like having their links and recommended reading sources questioned.   People take it personally, I've seen it before, and it can even lead to people quitting the forum in huffy indignation.  But know that I'm not criticizing you Blue, personally.   I'm questioning the "St. Germain of the Seven Rays" link.  I have major pet peeves with what I consider to be silly, fluffy new age sites that use all the "new age lingo" telling their readers that all the negative stuff is just an illusion, it's not real, it's all lies, you're imagining these things, and you're a victim of your own fear.

It's a whole side topic in itself, one better suited for a thread about the new age, (which I think there are a few threads going about that here at NR.....)   However I had to say something here.    I wish new agers would realize the middle ground option that they seem unable to reconcile:  That the negative IS real, it IS happening, because that's the nature of what this 3D Earth realm is, HOWEVER, it can be overcome, through many of the tactics they describe. 

You know...the middle ground.  The third option.   They mistakenly believe it's a choice between "ALL EVIL!  ALL THE TIME!  AND THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN DO ABOUT AAAAANNNNNYYYY OF IT!!! MMMMWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" - or - "Love 'n light!  Love 'n light!   Stick my head in the sand it's all an illusion love 'n light!  Love 'n light!  It's not real!  You're imagining things!  You're a victim of fear!  Love 'n light!  Love 'n light!"

eeek.   The middle ground, people.  The third option.   It IS real...because that's the 3D Earth zoo for you.  We got all kinds of craziness converging on this planet, each one wanting a piece of the pie.  But it can be overcome.   

Thank you.  That's all.  (stepping down off the soapbox.....)

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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