I certainly find all this interesting, yet confusing.
It's interesting that after all this, we seem to be able to contact so called inter-dimensional beings or intelligence, much easier than any technologically advanced races from the stars.
there is such a wealth of information and distorted or dis-informed opinions that seem to agree and contradict each other simultaneously.
This leaves us where?
I do not doubt the abilities we have to contact all of the above, but in fact if there is a strong motive to do so, to be famous, to be in the know, to become related to a celestial royalty, to become godlike, to "save the earth", save humanity, save ourselves... then every possibility of the nearly limitless subconscious in invoked.
It seems there is far too much evidence to dismiss either earlier technologically advanced cultures on earth or that advanced influence continuing to this day.
Knowing where it comes from doesn't seem to solve our biggest problem!
What makes us so dangerous as a species: mistaken self-identification and distorted perception.
As long as we are ruled by confused mind states that lead to aggression and competition, we are given a mission (conditioned of course) to advance ourselves and our identity against others that we project our own worst traits onto, and become lilly white in the process.
All supporting the laziness of never questioning our own reality and motives.
Identifying enemies is what seems most paramount in these discussions.
Occasionally there is interest in useful knowledge, but it's mostly to be used in the same STS way ~ "how can i make myself better, more powerful, less vulnerable", and rarely in understanding.
How did i get so distracted into this side current to understanding that i am reading for hours this theory and supposition and often outright new age fantasy?
Is this the distraction from what is really happening that we so fear?
It is only logical that we are not alone.
Yet we seem unlikely to be any more armed with reliable knowledge, able avoid the manipulation of those who would try than we ever were, as a culture or even a subculture here at NR, if there is so much confusion after all this.
Many of us have been guided in our thinking, based on the motives previously mentioned, by fancy theories that "explain everything", and provide "answers" and a "spiritual" context which we are desperate for, as society becomes more and more materially oriented. The need for proof and miracles is exactly what makes us vulnerable to sham.
the C's are taken as a fairly credible source of info, but is of a channelled nature and contradictory to what many believe as well.
the insider posts present a slightly different vantage point, not completely free of bias, imo, but one thing that does stand out in these two sources is need for us to "individually" awaken.
And the impossibility of riding on ANYONE'S coat-tails as the correct bearer of information and the redeemer of our souls or intelligence.
We seem to get stuck on the physical manifestations of the various aliens and the desire to believe something will save us.
The physical world as much as we would like to think of as stable and reliable is apparently not so. The billions of possibilities of physical manifestations are evident and do not necessarily contradict each other, but once regarded as proof and evidence of this or that then become fodder for our divisive arguments and "need to know decisively" one way or the other.
Our ignorance still dominates our discovery "process", and it seems any conclusion that there's anything actually "alien" or separate from us at all, is thrown back in out face time and again.
Perhaps the phenomena itself is being conducted by our abilities to create and imagine, as is our ability to perceive the phenomena is conducted by us individually.
My point is what we deem "material" and assume to be separate from ourselves may be much more flexible and susceptible to belief and motive and also not so separate after all.
It is common profound truth, time and again discovered, that there is nothing separate from our true mind, and that this that we take for our world is an illusion, a dream.
Modern translation: holographic representation.
There will probably never be agreement on anything but the principles behind our discovery process.
Perhaps we are creating all the evidence out of unknown powers of mind, including the field/environment in which it can manifest.
That would leave me to return to; that the most important truth is the one we can discover and verify for ourselves only.
Agreement isn't necessary perhaps, but happens when the "vibes" are in accord and when we are no longer fooled by sensual objects and values.
In other words: when we each have arrived at an understanding in which many things are possible and not surprising, but contact with so called "inner" truth is paramount and guides us directly with no intermediary or authority other than true nature itself as it is revealed moment by moment.