46 (edited by tenetnosce 2006-10-17 22:44:37)

Re: SHAFTA

Wow. . I went back and reviewed this whole thread.  I had forgotten about the parts where I was ranting uncontrollably. . . now that I read it again I think I did sound rather pissy. . wonder what was up my butt anyway (besides my head wink)?  Well my apologies to anybody I offended. .

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.

47 (edited by Worldbridger 2006-10-18 08:44:11)

Re: SHAFTA

http://www.spp.gov/

Just in case people haven't seen the official website:

Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America

Like someone mentioned earlier, it's been in the works for a while.
A bunch of bigwigs from US, Canada, Mexico all met in Banff last month to further plans.

$$  the amero...
ya...
just when I thought the Canadian dollar was making a comeback!!!

ahahahaha smile



Check out the 'myth vs facts' link - it's my favourite part - go disinfo compaign go!!


It's received absolutely no coverage in Canadian media except for indy media sources.

The Canadian Action Party actually called regional MPs on it and received only ridicule and question in return -

Re: SHAFTA

spp.gov wrote:

Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.

Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.

Key phrase: under the SPP.  No, the SPP doesn't do any of those things, but does it lay the groundwork for those things to come later?

It's just like when people defend Patriot Act II or the Military Commissions Act, they say, well these things aren't being used to infringe on the rights of innocent Americans, they are being used to fight terrorism.  That -may- be true under the current administration. . . but who is to say that some future administration won't use these same provisions of law to enforce tyranny?  Americans seem to have this strange fantasy which says "That could never happen here!"  Why not?  People forget that fascist regimes and dictatorships very rarely come into power through a show of force, but are usually elected by the people who have been lied to about the true intentions of such political leaders.

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.

Re: SHAFTA

Ah damn, I-35 runs right through my city (Minneapolis). I can't see anything good coming of this "SPP." Anyone who says it'll work itself out isn't looking far enough into the future.

Re: SHAFTA

Baron wrote:

Anyone who says it'll work itself out isn't looking far enough into the future.

. . . or the past. wink

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.