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From Steve Quayle
Quietly but systematically, the Bush Administration is advancing the plan to build a huge NAFTA Super Highway, four football-fields-wide, through the heart of the U.S. along Interstate 35, from the Mexican border at Laredo, Tex., to the Canadian border north of Duluth, Minn. (NASCO)
Well at least the picture looks cool. Very colorful.
As to the subject mattter, what would this acomplish? And how does this help the "NWO"? Or does it actually benifit NA?
It's designed to make Canada, US, and Mexico just one big happy union. "They" will then control the major supply lines through which they can harden their control of us.
Thought so.
As materialistic and consumeristic North America is right now, not to meantion a little insane, I feel that everything will be alright. And we might as well enjoy the ride! 
Illuminati who?
As to the subject mattter, what would this acomplish? And how does this help the "NWO"? Or does it actually benifit NA?
It is meant to promote "free trade" which is a precursor to the formation of another level of government (apparantely "free trade" requires more regulation) much like the EU, called the North American Union, which would basically obliterate the borders between the U.S. and Canada/Mexico.
The ultimate goal is the creation of a new currency, possibly a wholly electronic one, to supplant the U.S. dollar.
As to the supposed benefits for North America, it will benefit everybody who would rather have somebody else make their decisions for them, and whose main goal in life is to save 3 pennies per avocado at WalMart Supercenter.
But you're right, we should just focus on all the bright colors and pretty lights and trust that everything will just work itself out. Maybe the Illuminati will just give up. Or perhaps the Ashtar Command will stage an intervention. . .
Hell what do I care as long as I have a full belly and access to the Internet.
I seriously doubt we can stop them. There's plenty of other crap they've done over our objections and this will be no different.
I seriously doubt we can stop them.
Remember that we're talking about a tiny proportion of people in comparison to the entire population.
They get away with it because the majority of people allow themselves to believe that whatever the nightly news says is best for them must be so.
Problem-reaction-solution ensures that the NWO/Illuminati never take action before the public demands their agenda.
Consider all the truly spiritual people out there who could change public perception, but sit idly by waiting for the "Photon Belt" or whatever to come sweep all the corruption away.
It's amazing how many people I talk to about this. . just casually throw it out there. . who say "Well maybe it will be a good thing."
The number of these individuals who have actually talked to a European about how well it's working for them. . . . .
ZERO
SHAFTA is right.
I knew the day would come, when I would seriously contemplate leaving this shell of a nation.
I do not blame the peasants for being essentially ignorant.
I also do not blame the elite puppets who only seem to embody diabolical spirits
They are but flesh-and-bone robots.
I am trn between sovereignty (which I know is a hollow, selfish and competitive ideal) and throwing up my hands because part of me knows this runaway train is not gonna slow down.
I hope readers from outside the (former) US are aware the majority of us <ahem> "Americans" want NO part in wars of aggression, idiotic global policy, any of the barbaric acts our so called leaders will perpetrate in our names.
They do not represent us and they never have in my lifetime.
I would forgive anyone for not sympathizing with our situation, as many other countries have lived under opressive regimes, and would see this as justice served....... I can understand that point of view.
I want to be optimistic, but I myself feel as though any attempt to oppose
this alternate reality is futile.
The only real solution seems to be to leave.
And as more try to make their exodus, it will become more difficult to do so.
Who will have us Americans, after we have shown the world our version of
hospitality?
Maybe that island 'LOST' is filmed on?
J
SHAFTA is right.
I knew the day would come, when I would seriously contemplate leaving this shell of a nation.
Contemplation of leaving and actually leaving are two different things. Unfortunately I can't say I've found anywhere to leave to that would be much better. I'd much rather be here than in the U.K. right now, for example.
Maybe its just some old "Pledge of Allegiance" program running somewhere in the back of my psyche, but I still believe that Americans, and people in general, have the wherewithal to get off the train before it crashes.
The trick is to first, cause people to see for themselves where the train is headed. The signs are obvious, they only need be pointed out. The second part is to cause people to see that there is actually quite a lot they can do about it.
You needn't take to the streets with pamphlets or march on Wall Street to do something about the situation. But, if that's what somebody wants to do, it is still (ostensibly) their right to do so.
All anybody needs to do is look around and see what is going on. Human nature will take over from there.
The first reaction is that of self-preservation. Again, we need not "run for the hills" however, it might be a good idea to get out of the line of fire, and there are a lot more bullets flying around a big city than a small town.
But moving isn't necessarily the solution, or even a viable solution, for some. For me, changing locations has been part of the strategy, and could possibly involve leaving the country at some point.
However, the fact that I have moved is the result of a long list of other decisions that I made involving several other factors more fundamental to where I live.
If the North American Union ever comes to pass, there really is no getting away from it. It will affect everybody on the planet. There is no denying that.
The question is how it will affect us, and what other options are available to cure the "problems" that a North American Union would supposedly correct.
This unification process has been on the books for quite some time. It is a runaway train almost impossible to stop without wrecking the train. You cannot consider using our judiciary and legislative system to put up your fight because the system is all corrupted. The way I see it one must choose to do it A-La-Gandhi or A-La-Castro. Whichever method is used it must be significant and drastic enough that once the wheels are set in motion it cannot be stopped. To do that one must appeal to the masses but the masses in this wonderful country have been hypnotized and socially enslaved that they cannot differentiate their asses from their heads. Even from the very beginning it must take a great deal of people to come forward because a small group of people will be crushed A-La-David Coresh. Not too many people talk about Mr. Coresh once he was swiftly dealt with by the ATF Gestapo. But, I am sure that many ancient and/or recent people did not think that the Sumerian, Egyptian, Persian, Chinese, Greek, Roman, French & English empires could fall……..but they did!
Now, with all that said, what would we accomplish if the project is abolished? What do we gain? And, what do we lose? The World is getting smaller and smaller by the second and there is no stopping to it. English is becoming the economic and diplomatic language of the day and there is no stopping to it. Alliances and pacts are the talk of the day and there is no stopping to it. Implementing the North America Unification has positive and negative connotations but change has a nasty way of bringing that about. I personally don’t see how a country in the near future could survive without some pact, alliance or arrangement with a major power. This type of alliances would have economic, political and military implications but in the end there will be a line drawn in the sand and it will be “us” against “them” , whoever the “us” and “them” might be. I see no other outcome unless we wise up…
Sorry my view of the World is not so rosy…
Looking at the map I find it odd that the super highways cover Canada all the way from the eastern to the western coast but not in the USA. You would think that a super highway from Baltimore, Md. To Los Angeles, Ca. is a must. Perhaps that plan is in the works or the existing highway arteries are adequate enough for the early stages of the project.
Regards,
Lee
This unification process has been on the books for quite some time. It is a runaway train almost impossible to stop without wrecking the train. You cannot consider using our judiciary and legislative system to put up your fight because the system is all corrupted. The way I see it one must choose to do it A-La-Gandhi or A-La-Castro.
You are right, it does appear to be inevitable. But I think only inevitable because people have been slowly brainwashed to throw their full support into just about anything so long as the words "unity" or "freedom" are used. Heck it wasn't until a few years ago that I finally realized all the garbage I had previously swallowed about the supposed benefits about One World Government.
I'm not saying I know what the "solution" is but I am noticing that people seem to be very ho-hum about the idea as if it is just the natural progression of things. Big government is not natural. To the contrary it is about as artificial as one can get.
Governments cannot create new governments. They can cajole, propagandize, and yes even threaten bodily harm to people who do not follow their commands, but it is ultimately up to the people to form, dismantle, or overthrow governments, as they see fit.
It's still surprising to me how many spiritually oriented people go ass-spelunking whenever the subjects of politics or economics get brought up. I'm not directing this comment to anybody in particular, since we all have our heads up our asses from time to time, but godDAMN people, isn't this a little more important than who in the media looks like an alien or the latest channeling from the Pleiades? I guess not.
I guess "creating our own reality" gets thrown out the window when it comes down to. . . well. . . our reality.
"Well maybe it will turn out to be a good thing."
Really? And can somebody please provide me with one example in history where the centralization of power has not led to corruption and tyranny?
"Well we can't really do anything about it."
Is that so? Gosh, I sure wish somebody would have told that to all the people who lost their lives fighting for liberty and freedom of expression. I guess nobody considered that their great great grandchildren would piss away their hard-won rights in favor of stuffing their fat faces with bonbons while mindlessly staring at a box with a bunch of pretty lights flashing on it.
It's still surprising to me how many spiritually oriented people go ass-spelunking whenever the subjects of politics or economics get brought up. I'm not directing this comment to anybody in particular....
Oh no, of course not....as you proceed to slam very specific topics talked about here on NR, and thus, any and all people who participated in them. But it's not directed at anybody in particular, oh no. 
since we all have our heads up our asses from time to time, but godDAMN people, isn't this a little more important than who in the media looks like an alien or the latest channeling from the Pleiades? I guess not.
Sure, but this is a public messageboard with almost 1000 registered users with varied interests. We can't all be only discussing SHAFTA and topics that you deem important in lieu of everything else. Besides, by putting the focus on hybrids and channeling you make it seem like that's the typical norm for what's discussed around here. It's not. I'll take it upon myself though to apologize on behalf of the entire NR forum that there aren't more angry current events topics being discussed around here.
With any messageboard, if somebody doesn't like what they see in terms of topics, and thinks something should be discussed which isn't, they're always free to start a thread about it. As you're doing here. But why lash out at people for the fact that it wasn't brought up before you decided to talk about it? Somebody has to be the person to mention it, and in this case, it was you. So cool. Alright. There we go. Now we have it as a topic of discussion at NR.
I guess "creating our own reality" gets thrown out the window when it comes down to. . . well. . . our reality.
Speak for yourself. ! You can't purport to know what the rest of us mean, or are doing, with regards to that concept. Honestly. That's such a presumptuous thing to say.
Also, you're snidely attacking people on NR for "create your own reality", hybrids, channeling discussions, etc. (implying that we're lala land new agers, and that's all that's ever discussed around here, which is not true) as if we're the problem here. We're not. You're lashing out at the very group of people that are supposed to be on your side.
I think if you want to motivate a call to arms - that is what you want, isn't it? - there are better tactics to utilze. Lashing out at the forum you're posting on in a bitter, frustrated way will only make people chooes to stop clicking on your threads. Present the issue. Motivate people. And propose ideas and solutions. But mocking the threads that are discussed and "indirectly" mocking people who post in those threads probably isn't the best tactic.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
uh oh.....mayhem is probably coming up down the SHAFTA pike after posting that! I just got a 141 right after posting. Went back to work, to typing up this document, and right there on the third line it says "SFAS No. 141..." ahhhhhhh! For me, 141 is one of those negative number sightings indicating fighting, negativity and all around interference and mayhem and bruhahas. Is it too late to delete my post? 
Wow, getting a little worked up eh? The problem with political action is that the problems we are dealing with our systemic, rather than superficial problems. The system IS the problem, so action within the system is always ultimately futile. This includes tearing it down and replacing it with whatever other utopian form of government you like. The sad fact is that unless people as a whole change drastically, it is simply impossible to have large societies without large control structures, and large control structures mean hierarchies and the inevitable abuse of power that comes with it.
To paraphrase Ran Prieur (ranprieur.com) civilization isn't simply destructive and corrupt in the way a schoolbus is yellow, but in the way a schoolbus is a motor vehicle. Change that and it ceases to function.
The good news is, civilization is destroying itself along with the rest of the planet, so the only real question is if it will collapse before or after we completely destroy our resource base. Things are picking up speed now, and it is obvious that we are in the endgames now. So my course of action is to watch the drama unfold, keep my vibes positive, and get my land up and running and completely off the grid. Of course, this is what I'd do even if our society wasn't already sliding down a slippery slope straight for a huge cliff.
To kind of bring it back on point, I know it is cliche and cheesy, but we can't deal with TPTB on their turf. The physical world-politics, military force, etc- is undeniably in "their" control, and it is not only pointless, but actually counterproductive to counter them on this level (and suicidal to try violent resistance). That is what they expect, and they know how to use this type of thing to their advantage, (for example, hire a couple black-masked thugs to rampage in Seattle to demonize and ostracize the anti-globalization movement, etc). We need to take them on on the spiritual level, where we hold the ultimate upper hand, in that their power is self-limited by fear and delusion, we have the ability (though rarely used) to connect to the infinite. So as cheesy as it sounds, the best thing you can do is pump out loving awareness (which transforms everything it touches). At the very least we need to stop feeding this oppresive cloud of collective negativity that is smothering us. Getting mad about injustices only make the situation worse.
There is some work to be done here in the physical, but that is necessarily focused "close to home", with self and family the most important place to create harmony and unity, and community building is also very important. Support local farmers and artisans and local activity and ecomony of all kinds. Instead of fighting what you don't want, trying building what you do want (sort of the macro level of the law of attraction).
The best part is, TPTB are completely blind to this sort power, because it is completely foreign and incomprehensible to them.
Also, teto, I'm sick of this line "Gosh, I sure wish somebody would have told that to all the people who lost their lives fighting for liberty and freedom of expression. I guess nobody considered that their great great grandchildren would piss away their hard-won freedoms"
First of all, do I even need to say that this "land of freedom" has never been free, and was created by systemically annihiliting a whole continent of diverse cultures, many of which were FAR FAR more free than ours has ever been. Second, while the soldiers in the wars may have believed they were dying for noble causes, wars, ALL WARS, are ALWAYS about resources, but almost always cloaked in the cloth of religious or moral or cultural ethics, etc. IE, contrary to popular legend (ala public schools) the civil war had a lot more to do with the south having a fraction of the ecomonic activity and wealth of the north, yet paying the vast majority of federal taxes. If anyone was fighting for freedom, it was the southerners (though once again, not really, just fighting for a bigger piece of the pie). Same story with the revolutionary war.
Or were you thinking of the Mexican American war where we invaded and conquered half of Mexico with no provocation (and kept it to this day). The indian wars? Vietnam? Iraq? OK, so now your going to say WW2 right, but would we have actually fought Hitler if he hadn't threatened us directly? Of course not, look how cozy our government is and has been with all sorts or evil dictatorships. Maybe none of them killed quite as many people as the nazis but that is only because the weren't as powerful. Civilization is inherently repressive and controlling, regardless of the outer trappings.
ranprieur.com has some great essays on the subject of collapse (as well as fascism in america and all sorts of other interesting spiritual and political topics. Check out the essays section.
Life after the oil crash had a great comments on SHAFTA thing, but that day has for some reason disappeared from the archives.
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