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thr33tim3 wrote:

Lyra, I have a lot of trouble understanding the concept of myself on multiple timelines, ala Preston Nichols et al. How do all these "versions" of myself relate back to one, centralized "core" self? It is the same trouble I have with the concept of "simultaneous" incarnations in Matrix V... it makes sense in its own theoretical concept, but how does it actually apply and affect us here in this, THIS, reality? If I could be "awakened" in this timeline but "asleep" in another, what does that add up to? How does one effect another, and to what end? Well, I doubt there is an easy answer to any of those questions, but this is what is stirred up in my mind. It just seems like that to say that THIS reality is just one of an infinite versions on infinite timelines... it feels like it kind of invalidates, or at least takes a lot of the "importance" of our experiences here. But then, maybe things are just so vast that that is the only way it can work... seeming like things are all seperated by different timelines, densities, etc but eventually they are all found to connect holistically...
It is just hard to understand how infinite timelines connects to a core-identity.. if anything, it seems like infinite chaos to me. Perhaps THAT is our core-identity in that case...?

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About the upbringing, the questions seem to be along these lines: Why are some people solely the products of their environment and heredity, while others progress in spite of these? Why does one person with a "perfect" upbringing become a perfect cog in the wheel, while another with an equally "perfect" upbringing matures in their spiritual and creative potential? Why does one person with a horrible upbringing become a delinquent asshole because of it, while another becomes wiser and more compassionate because of it? For instance, some who are abused by their parents perpetuate the abuse upon their own children, while others makes sure their own children never have to go through the same.

This suggests that something beyond physicality is at work here, that soul maturity and destiny matter more than physical conditions. With different timelines come different physical conditions, and maybe even different destinies or purposes, but the soul maturity one is born with should stay constant because the soul is beyond linear time and space. But how much of that soul potential is activated in a life may depend on how the soul responds to the way things go in that timeline.

Another interesting thing to notice with non-pods is that "who they are" provides a source of novelty that effects changes in their surroundings, while poddish people are the opposite and only seem to absorb influences from their surroundings to build up who they are. There is something active inside non-pods that provides them with individuality and originality, an inner drummer.

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I leap from world to world.  From timeline to timeline.  From universe to universe.

I leap from Life to Life, trying to put things right that once went wrong.  Knowing always that I never left home.

There are many such as me for I am not special.  You will know them by their mind.  Their mind will be a noble realm.

Podality is all but impossible for minds such as their's.

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the word/term thats been coming into my mind on this subject for 2 days is

A R T I F I C I A L

one of my worst fears about them is that the same or a similar thing that happened in the original movie will occur at end times or whatever is ahead.  they'll "TELL" on us or or make that sound to identify us non-pods, to rat us out, cuz were difft and r a risk to their welfare possibly, just to their constitution, and i mean psychically, physically, bodily (altho the noun definition may even fit here).  there's a whole family of them across the street.

i was raised on 50's and 60's horror movies and that one affected me, as did alot of the others.

i worked for an MD once that wanted me and the office staff to go to a group on being "genuine"  i became real worried then, as im about as genuine as anybody could ever get, i knew i better get the hell out and away from him immediately.  i had spent my whole life trying to tone that individualness down to fit in (it didnt work) so i knew then, oh my god, if he doesnt think im for real, im in big trouble so i split not long after that.  i didnt think he was pod, but then i found out he was just mentally ill.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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zenden!
Invasion of the Body Snatchers, Black and White, 1958
Scary as hell. 
The ultimate paranoia. 
If you go to SLEEP you will be replaced by a pod.

Act like they do.  Don't call attention to yourself.
If you show any emotion...

THEY'LL KNOW!!!

AAAAAAAAUUUUUUGHHHH!!!!!
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Edited by Kevin McCarthy...
This movie was analysed by critics as being a metaphor of communist invasion (they can hide everywhere, they can even be your neighbor, your friend, your mom...). Remember McCarthyism?

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Ha-ha-ha. Nice one.

"There cannot be progress without expression. There cannot be expression without separation. There cannot be separation without progress."-Ouroboros

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Lyra wrote:

"Hey, how's it going!"

"Ah, you know.  Same shit, different day."

"Really?!   Wow, not for me!"  Then launch into some amazing thing you're getting a kick out of in life.  In fact, the smaller and sillier it is, the better.  Just goes to reinforce joy in the little things!  "I just spent 20 minutes watching these bumblebees on the flowers outside.  That's something else I tell you!  I took pictures too.  I'll show you the film when it gets developed. Life is good!"

big_smile

Haha. I seriously laughed out loud when I was reading that, especially the bumblebee part. Wow, that is great! smile

Another thing I've been thinking about lately are people's accents and how that relates to this subject. Have you noticed alot of guys and girls talk like a bunch of surfer dudes and valley girls? Eeeek. What is going on? Especially with me, coming from NYC, where that's not a native thing. You can tell if someone is from NYC just by looking at them, but you see people who seem very East Coast yet talk as if they're from Anaheim,CA. For example, I hear business guys walking down the street with their cell phones plastered on their ear and saying phrases like: "Yeah, totally dude! She's so fu*king hot. Yeahh!!" And mind you, these guys are usually along the 30-45 age bracket. I'm sorry, excuse my tasteless language, but WTF is up with that? I know guys did not talk like that years ago, up until maybe when Bevis and Butthead (and later, the movie clerks in 1994)  came out on MTV. Now, you see guys mostly talking and acting like Bevis and Butthead, who don't smoke pot nor surf, yet act stoned because they think it's "funny" and "super cool". Yeahhhhhhhh dude, woo hoo!

Women on the other hand, take the lead on this. It's so bad that I find it refreshing when I come across a woman (either in person or not) that speaks in their own natural voice and not influenced by television or the evils of Paris Hilton and Co. They speak with such utter melo-dramatic tones that if they see someone wearing orange this year instead of last year, they would say "OH MY GOD, ewww!" I'll spare everyone the catch phrases of valley girl talk since you already know them. It could be just the way American women speak, especially when you compare women 50 years ago and how they had their own accent, which I think, was a classier than "OMG, that's hot!"  But I just can't help but think: are people that insecure that they would train their vocal chords to speak in a different manner just to fit in? to be accepted? to get ahead? whatever that means?! Just another thought in my mind in response to this pod people question I would like to share with the rest of you.

On the Subject of timelines, I never questioned them. I've always had a feeling that timelines existed, ever since I was little kid. I saw a movie a few years back called "Sliding doors" with Gwenyth Paltrow, which is about a woman who missed the train to go back home while her husband was cheating on her in their bedroom. The filmmaker/director shows the audience what would of happened if she didn't miss the train and also shows what she did during that day when she did. I was about 16-17 when I saw this movie and I thought it was a great plot to do a movie on. After that, I would think "what would of happened if I had not transfered schools? Or stayed in that relationship? or if my parents' sad attempt to move to the Balkans (ex-Yugoslavia) were actually a permanent thing- who would I be? What kind of life would I be living? In the subject of timelines, I actually have no problems understanding it because like Natural Mystic, I can be overimaginative and just delve into it more and more, putting more details in my supposed lives I could of had.

"We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same."
– Carlos Castaneda

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thr33tim3 wrote:

Pictus, you have such a funny sense of humor, I appreciate your posts...
the mini-me pictures were brilliant. big_smile

Thanks smile
I do not know if I will use the right words, but...
We live in a very strange world if we do not consider all the damage and suffering
what is left is sooooo absolute ridiculous that turns into something scatological funny. yikes
+- like the mythical lemming mass suicide. lol
Or some religious/social "truths", behaviors, interactions, "intellectual" conclusions(world is flat)...

To clarify, if I post some funny stuff to a message tread I do not mean it
is a ridiculous message tread, only trying to make the funny side of it.

Bye, Pictus

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proto wrote:

Haha. I seriously laughed out loud when I was reading that, especially the bumblebee part. Wow, that is great! smile

smile  !



proto wrote:

Another thing I've been thinking about lately are people's accents and how that relates to this subject. Have you noticed alot of guys and girls talk like a bunch of surfer dudes and valley girls? Eeeek. What is going on? Especially with me, coming from NYC, where that's not a native thing. You can tell if someone is from NYC just by looking at them, but you see people who seem very East Coast yet talk as if they're from Anaheim,CA. For example, I hear business guys walking down the street with their cell phones plastered on their ear and saying phrases like: "Yeah, totally dude! She's so fu*king hot. Yeahh!!" And mind you, these guys are usually along the 30-45 age bracket. I'm sorry, excuse my tasteless language, but WTF is up with that? I know guys did not talk like that years ago, up until maybe when Bevis and Butthead (and later, the movie clerks in 1994)  came out on MTV. Now, you see guys mostly talking and acting like Bevis and Butthead, who don't smoke pot nor surf, yet act stoned because they think it's "funny" and "super cool". Yeahhhhhhhh dude, woo hoo!

Women on the other hand, take the lead on this. It's so bad that I find it refreshing when I come across a woman (either in person or not) that speaks in their own natural voice and not influenced by television or the evils of Paris Hilton and Co. They speak with such utter melo-dramatic tones that if they see someone wearing orange this year instead of last year, they would say "OH MY GOD, ewww!" I'll spare everyone the catch phrases of valley girl talk since you already know them. It could be just the way American women speak, especially when you compare women 50 years ago and how they had their own accent, which I think, was a classier than "OMG, that's hot!"  But I just can't help but think: are people that insecure that they would train their vocal chords to speak in a different manner just to fit in? to be accepted? to get ahead? whatever that means?! Just another thought in my mind in response to this pod people question I would like to share with the rest of you.

!!!!!!  THANK YOU!!!!!!!!

I was going to mention this last week but then forgot.   But YES, absolutely.....as somebody who lived in four states in a three and a half year time span - SoCal, Oregon, Florida and now Virginia, almost like "4 corners" you could say - I can absolutely verify this.  People all over the country are speaking as if they're from SoCal.   I LIVED in SoCal for over 10 years, and let me tell you, to leave and go elsewhere......3,000 miles away even......and hear people talking the same way is stunning.    What happened to regional accents?!?  What happened to natural voices and inflection like you noted??  I was thinking the same thing, so I'm really glad you brought this up.   The problem isn't so much the guys, who sound like generic frat boys, it's the girls.   They talk like the girls in SoCal talked.  Every other word is "like."   On those rare occasions when I use "like" when I'm typing on NR, I insert it in on purpose and am very aware of it.  It's to create a certain sound to what I'm writing.  But these girls have it inserted in every other word, as if they can't help saying it and aren't even aware of what they're doing.   And the vocal inflection, artifically high intonation, up down, sing songy, is completely SoCal.

When we moved to Virginia, I expected that everybody would have Virginia speak.  X!  It seems that relatively few people have the accent.  Not only that, but pretty much anybody under 30 sounds like they're from California.  So I really dig the ones who do have that accent. 

Now, where we live is a college town, with kids coming in from out of state, which also explains the lack of a prevailant southern accent around here.   However.....they can't all be coming in from Southern California, yet, that's how most anybody under 30 sounds around here.  So the only thing I could come up with as an explanation for it all was good ol' television.   TV has become so ingrained in everybody that everybody now speaks the way that people on TV speak.  And especially considering how many shows for young people are based in SoCal settings, whether L.A. or Orange County, then it's no wonder.

Something I've wondered about is whether "The Powers That Be" are deliberately inserting cultural changes in, no matter how subtle, and then tracking how fast they spread.   Meme tracking you could say.   Insert in phrases, words, ways of speaking, with the accent/intonation, and see how quickly it spreads, so they can gauge the effectiveness of their mass programming.   Many people believe in the idea that TPTB are doing this with regards to bigger things, such as cultural attitudes and trends, but I'm thinking they're doing it on a smaller scale too.   Like we're a big lab experiment.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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I can't stand the rising inflection at the end of a sentance in speech that is getting more popular amongst younger people so it sounds like they are asking a question and makes them sound very insecure and feeble and creepy even. Made popular by some American TV shows i think and just spread from there.

Edit: found a link this is what i mean, they seem to think the Aussies and Americans are  to blame smile
http://www.bbc.co.uk/leicester/content/ … ture.shtml

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

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Barefoot Doc wrote:

I can't stand the rising inflection at the end of a sentance in speech that is getting more popular amongst younger people so it sounds like they are asking a question and makes them sound very insecure and feeble and creepy even. Made popular by some American TV shows i think and just spread from there.

No Barefoot Doc, your post should read:

"I can't stand the rising inflection at the end of a sentance?   In speech?  That is getting more popular amongst younger people?  So it sounds like they are asking a question?  and makes them sound very insecure and feeble and creepy even?"

wink

A couple of months ago here at my temp job, one of the guys who works here came to my desk trying to tell me something about a project that I was helping with which he was involved with too.  So there he is, standing before me at my desk......speaking every sentence as a question?   With that sing songy intonation at the end?  Sounding like a girl?  So it was weird?  You know? 

It was to the point where I actually had difficulty understanding what he was trying to say, and just sat there staring at him blankly, with a look of "WTF?" on my face.  It annoyed me to no end, and I rolled my eyes and complained about it to a coworker afterwards.   I don't normally get offended, but I got a little offended in this case because I suspected he was speaking to me that way because I'm female, and look young to boot.  I'm guessing he assumed that I wouldn't understand him if he spoke normally.  THAT is offensive.  But unfortunately, I've gotten used to people judging me all wrong based on how the exterior looks, talking down to me, condescending me, assuming I'm a young ditzy female, etc. and so it no longer surprises me when it happens.  hmm   But I digress.  My coworker tried to explain his way of talking as being a "Boston accent dialect" since he's originally from Massachusetts.  (in fact.....he lived in the same exact place I lived...Westfield.  What are the odds!)  to which I was like, NA na na na no.  I **lived* in [westfield] Massachusetts for seven years, and Connecticut for nine, and that is NOT a Massachusetts accent!  That's how people in southern California talk!"   She was surprised, had no idea.  Thought it was some Massachusetts thing.  roll  Nevermind the fact that he doesn't always speak that way, and talks normally to other guys.

I first encountered the "statement-as-question" phenomenon in....................Southern California, so again, it's all SoCal speak, which has somehow become mainstream on a mass level.  It's part of the mass dumbing down of society that's been in the works for decades, imo.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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You have to wonder how that statement-as-a-question thing got started.  It sounds so unappealing I can't imagine anyone hearing it for the first time and thinking, "Hey-  that's how I want to talk!"  There have even been studies on this type of speaking that show listeners tend to disregard the speaker. 

This makes me wonder whether this is truly a dialect/ inflection, or if it's merely an indication that more people are looking for validation from outside themselves.