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wow--here i am writing on the "other thread" about animals when i meant to be on this one, which i just read AFTER i typed the whole thing on that other thread just under this one.  i hadnt even read LipstickMystic's remarks yet and i echoed, hers and Lono's too, and everybody's on here.  ya just have to be incalculcated in PEOPLE to see it and a few of us deal with PEOPLE for a living, which is what tires me, makes me sleep alot, and generally has pleased me to no end, while at the same time, about killed me.  theres so much to say, but hey visavis--i think u HAVE IT DOWN.  loved LOVED reading what u said, i agree with ur research, i think u have figured it out nicely.  something did poke itself IN in the 40's-50's -60's.  yes, i am familiar with everything u said, with ur correlations.  THERE IS NO DOUBT--stuff was much more real and less well, stamped out or stencilled then can i say.  there were fewer insertions then and this was when, after the these decades, during these, that pod breeding got a big foothold.  this was, after the 60's and at least 10-15 yrs after--in the 70's and 80's that signifies the "waypoint"--the marker that differentiated the hordes of pods, from the straight up OP's.

i think we've always had OP's with their negative vibes and evil doings, while the pods r a newer more cookie-cutter breed.  after reading LM, our observations say this very thing.  and, about the VIBES--yep, one can bring in good vibes to an area to anchor it, even if it sucks around that immediate area.  thats why im here in so cal--which some ppl hate really bad and couldnt even live in.  i came from farm country in illinois and wouldnt live there, couldnt live there, it was killing me.  i felt old-school evil all around and wondered when it would be revealed, and it finally is being revealed.  theres a lot of podding going on and they could smell i wasnt of their "kind" and theres a big good ole boy network and its shit livin large there.  their latest governor, hes the 2nd or 3rd, or is he the 4th? just went to prison for graft and corruption, when otto kerner was doing the same thing in like 63 or thereabouts and went to prison then for same or similar shit.  its beautiful there and all quiet, but theres an evil underbelly that i can see and smell, and i was raised in it.  i dont even go to visit anymore, i cant do it.  fate sent me here to southern cali and i see why and how and all about it.  i was supposed to come here and was sent.  u cant be in a place unless ur supposed to be and that's that, frankly.  i have learned that each must "hold down" the/a spot where they r for many reasons, so i dont judge that or even much comment on it.  theres an innate design to it.  i also wanted to say, i think its for specific reasons why were all where we r, like it or not.  i just worries me who im gonna end up with though--around me when the SHTF.

GNOTHI SEAUTON "Know Thyself!"

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Has anyone else noticed a type of pod person that I call the "personality vampire?"  It's like they're empty inside, so they latch onto someone, a friend, a boyfriend/girlfriend, family member, whatever, and become a replicate of said person?  And if that person doesn't work, they pick another one.

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Zenden,  I appreciate your comments in your posts - I forget what you do again - are you a doctor or nurse type? It sounds like you must be on the front lines of the medical profession, where you are, and I admire you for it.  As you said, if you deal in people for a living, you sometimes see way too much - and can get extremely burned out from it.  It's like there is this sheer, huge, MASS of pod people - much as you love them, much as you are puzzled at the very idea that you can even be THINKING of them as something "other" than you ('cause I have always been one of those humanistic "everyone is equal" types of girls)....you can't deny that there is this extremely bizarre (to the point of science fiction bizarre) thing going on.  People who are mindless and absolutely prone to taking directions from others, the whole enslavement mentality.  And this can happen in extremely bright people, so it's very upsetting to see.

And in my own life I certainly grew up with that bias of thinking that doctors know everything and that for every cough, bruise, or sniffle I should go to a doctor.  That was indoctrinated into me because I had a near-fatal bout of asthma as a baby and had troubles with bronchitis throughout my childhood. I'm sure it scared my parents into worrying about me all the time and thinking that every sneeze indicated something potentially worse - and it did sometimes.  But in my picking up THEIR fear and THEIR beliefs, I ran into that same thing when I was younger of believing that I needed somebody to tell me about my own most basic bodily functions.

Thank goodness I developed an early interest in herbal healing, anatomy, energy healing, alternative health, etc.  I don't go to doctors anymore because of all the really frightening advice they gave me on numerous occasions.  I saw how fragile the entire system is, how we give our trust to these overworked, well-intentioned professionals who are forced to go through the inhuman rigors of working 48 hour shifts in residency as they get trained, and what kind of life is that?  And then we expect our medical people to CARE and to take lots of extra time with us, when they have huge malpractice insurance bills and equipment bills to stay on top of and are paralyzed by HMO's and can't spend more than five minutes with a patient because they go bankrupt if they don't see dozens of patients a day.

I might not be expressing that accurately, but that's my overall assumption of some of the extreme stresses doctors and owners of practices deal with. And it's not good for them, and it's not good for the patients.

Then there are good people like you, Zenden, obviously doing everything you can within that challenging system to help people, and then you see how your patients refuse to learn even the basics of first-aid and become utterly dependent on authority figures to tell them what to do.  Which isnt good, either. And then these patients often have tons of children, who in turn aren't educated about self-care. And the cycle just keeps continuing.

Crazy world we live in.  Kudos and cheers to you, Zenden, for keeping on with it, because the front lines of medicine are the most difficult to be in.  Big energy hugs to you!

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

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Waaaaaaay back, at post #1:

LipstickMystic wrote:

It’s why I would be a hermit with eight cats if my honey wasn’t wired in a similar way to me.

Jennifer on a different TimeLine ???




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I completely agree with you, Jennifer. The problem I face with Pod People is that I try to help them realize their potential through advice and such, but they never take the advice, or feel uncomfortable when that advice is given because it infringes upon their security blankets. The funny thing is, they will come to me later and tell me that I was right and that they should've taken my advice, but then they continue on their routine of not taking my advice and the windmill effect continues to dominate their lives. I admit that I have my own set of flaws that could be considered apart of the Pod Framework, but I am by no means dominated by them. My problem is that I can't stop trying to help the sheep find their own inner power, like it's a psychic reflex, even though I do try to just let them be after they have refused to take my advice, I can't stop trying. Speaking of which, I once met a woman that I could tell was a lot like me, so I decided to tell her how I attempt to help people, and she said that she gave up trying to help people a long time ago, so maybe I'll eventually give up as well...maybe not.

"There cannot be progress without expression. There cannot be expression without separation. There cannot be separation without progress."-Ouroboros

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zenden wrote:

i truly think this is the real deal behind immigration issues, but nobody ever makes the connection or talks about that.  mindless minions, hordes that show up, that migrate, if u will, from border to border, country to country.  it has been bred into some "people" to be of the minions, to be mindless, to be a shell of a human.  theyre carbon copies of carbon copies.  bred to be slaves, to not think, to go along and never feel, never take responsibility, to want a higher authority to take the reins, to tell them what to do.  they will believe almost anything told to them by an authority if it is from their religious or cultural background.  theyre bred not to question, not to FEEL.  theyre just as LipstickMystic said above.  some r sweet and some project delightful personalities, but have no clue what lifetime theyre in or where theyre going, or where theyve been, spiritually.  or even how to take care of themselves.  as a professional, this just kills me.  i see hundreds a day, from all over the world.  some r more pod than others, but its there, im tellin ya.

Zenden thanks a lot for writing these. These are some issues really hard to face. We're on the same boat, in health business. Just as u wrote I see a lot people who doesn't seem to know how to stay healthy and always search for some kind of authority. And this authority is mostly doctors. Manipulate a doctor and you can have hundreds/thousands of people in your hand. Lately I began to think this may be really artificial breeding by some forces - and this is not for the good of humanity.

Insider's list which Visavis wrote is very important too. These really seem to be the ways to keep us in the cage. Take a look at the list again. This is hard to face too, because this is how most of us live.

By chance (?), I just watched Deadalive episode of X-Files (season 8) last night and there was a very interesting scene there, an abductee's skin literally errupts and he gets up from a hospital bed renewed. Although he looks a lot healthy, his eyes are empty and he says "Now I know the truth. They're here to save us". So it seems this breeding has it's purposes.

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

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Barefoot Doc wrote:

As Visavis notes, vaccinations, drugs, pollution, chemical foods,memes, materialism, false beliefs etc  must play a huge part in dumbing down the spark of consciousness.

This definitely seems to play a partial role in what's happening I think.  On a related note:  I'd seen school pictures of my mom, about age seven or eight, and she looked "there."  Cute freckle faced, auburn haired Irish kid.  By the time she was a teen, her face was blank and stony.  By that point she'd been experiencing a very bad homelife situation and disruption and instability, as well as drugs and alcohol.  I've been at a loss to figure out what the deal is with her, but one theory involves soul trama, life here in 3rd being more than some people can handle, which causes them to "exit stage left," leaving behind what amounts to an only partially occupied shell that's just not all there anymore.  I don't mean intellectually like brain damage, I mean soul-wise.  Something is missing, because the original occupant fled or faded away.  It's just a theory though. 


Hermit Brad wrote:

I completely agree with you, Jennifer. The problem I face with Pod People is that I try to help them realize their potential through advice and such, but they never take the advice, or feel uncomfortable when that advice is given because it infringes upon their security blankets.

Had to smile at this one.  I could definitely relate.  The key is to only give advise when asked I think, and then, have no emotional investment in whether they follow it or not.  This way, you've done your part, you helped when asked, so you can't feel like you turned your back on somebody in need.  At that point it's up to them whether they take it or not.  And let's face it, not everybody is ready to make a daring leap into the unknown, but can't fault them for that.  They'll get there in their own time, and if they don't...it's not our concern.  It is their life after all.  That's where not being emotionally invested comes into play.   The one extreme option with advise giving is to give it all the time and get all involved in others' lives, with all this emotional investment, which leads to mucho frustration when everybody around us refuses to live their lives the way we're telling them they "should."  wink  The other extreme is to completely shut off and refuse to help anybody anymore at all, frowning about it.   The third middle ground option is what I mentioned before, giving advise only when asked, and to have no emotional investment in the outcome.   You've done all you can do, so nothing is on you anymore, and you're walking away.


So, regarding the "Pause Mode" thing mentioned earlier - The two coworkers who did that didn't seem to be pod people  per  se....in fact, the one manager dude was the same guy I mentioned awhile ago in another thread as being the guy who reported that Saddam Hussein was NOT "captured" when the U.S. claimed to have captured him, because the date palms in the background had fruit, and the time of the year didn't match the trees.   So yeah, he was an alert guy from the Middle East who questioned the weirdness that was the American news media.   He just inexplicably "Paused" along with my coworker, as in, went blank, nothing, pause, versus "I'm purposely ignoring you, you're a weirdo" the second I said the word Illuminati.   big_smile   I don't know what that means, but since it happened twice it must mean something. 

And lastly, I'll toss in one of my favorite types of pod people.  (Sarcasm, of course.)  But it's the money obsessed corporate business man, dressed in business clothes, toting their lap top bag, seeming to have no real personality behind the cookie cutter humor and catch phrase filler logo, with lives that revolve around work, meetings, conferences, and making money.  And hobbies that involve like, golf.  The total stereotype.  I've seen enough of them now that to me, it's disturbing.   They're all the same.

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Mutant Mouse, Yes I have encountered the "personality vampire" before. The one I met not only copied your personality but your talents as well, and sometimes could do it better than you could or just completely screw it up.

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A funny aside... my sister is in jail on a warrant for having run from the law years ago.  In court, they were referring to her cell as a "pod," and her cell mate as her "pod mate."  My mom made a joke about "pod people," not knowing anything about this thread.  I think it's interesting they now refer to jail cells as pods.

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I’ve actually met quite a few Non-Pods here and there at this café I used to work at. The funny thing about these run-ins is, the conversation would start up when I was on my break and someone would either ask me for a lighter, a cigarette, or just sat next to me. One time I was actually talking to this realtor who had to be in his early 50’s about Bohemian Grove and he told me that his nephew used to be a waiter there. But all in all, most of the people I know and have met are Pod People.

lyra wrote:

And lastly, I'll toss in one of my favorite types of pod people.  (Sarcasm, of course.)  But it's the money obsessed corporate business man, dressed in business clothes, toting their lap top bag, seeming to have no real personality behind the cookie cutter humor and catch phrase filler logo, with lives that revolve around work, meetings, conferences, and making money.  And hobbies that involve like, golf.  The total stereotype.  I've seen enough of them now that to me, it's disturbing.   They're all the same.

Speaking of this cliche, I was at the airport a week ago and I noticed a guy in such a get-up, and I was watching him because he was checking out anything that was female, little kid, teenager, middle-aged, seinor citizen. When we finally were boarding the plane, all I could do was laugh to myself for some reason. tongue

"There cannot be progress without expression. There cannot be expression without separation. There cannot be separation without progress."-Ouroboros

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Whats worse is when members of your family are pod people.  My brother is a school teacher, but he pretty much goes along with the mainstream. Funny thing is, one of his best friends in college is one of the psychics on "Psychic Detictives" on TV. He even has his book that he wrote on his coffee table. But if I bring up any of my experiences he either tells me, " dont want to hear about that stuff", or he gets a glazed look on his face. And god forbid I say, "hey, look at all those chemtrails in the sky". My family thinks that everything that comes out of my mouth is some cock-a-mamy conspiracy theory.
Yeah, so between my neighbors and most of my family, I live amidst the pod people. But hey, I think Im getting better every day dealing with it.  Oh and the sports thing, really I have nothing against it if thats your thing. But when people ask me if I know the score of the game that day and blah, blah blah, and I say NOPE, dont watch it, I get the weirdest look! Im sorry, I dont think its fun to watch a bunch of WAY overpaid men ( a lot of themwith the IQ of a carrot) running around a field. Soorrry! So Im "odd" because I dont keep track of all the sports events going on.  Oh well, too bad.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
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treehugger wrote:

Whats worse is when members of your family are pod people.  My brother is a school teacher, but he pretty much goes along with the mainstream. Funny thing is, one of his best friends in college is one of the psychics on "Psychic Detictives" on TV. He even has his book that he wrote on his coffee table. But if I bring up any of my experiences he either tells me, " dont want to hear about that stuff", or he gets a glazed look on his face. And god forbid I say, "hey, look at all those chemtrails in the sky". My family thinks that everything that comes out of my mouth is some cock-a-mamy conspiracy theory.

Yeah, so between my neighbors and most of my family, I live amidst the pod people. But hey, I think Im getting better every day dealing with it.  Oh and the sports thing, really I have nothing against it if thats your thing. But when people ask me if I know the score of the game that day and blah, blah blah, and I say NOPE, dont watch it, I get the weirdest look! Im sorry, I dont think its fun to watch a bunch of WAY overpaid men ( a lot of themwith the IQ of a carrot) running around a field. Soorrry! So Im "odd" because I dont keep track of all the sports events going on.  Oh well, too bad.

The sports thing.......oy!  What is that about?

Actually, I attended my first ever football game two years ago and was able to enjoy it, in a sort of "So this is how the other half lives" spectator way.  It was a Princeton game, and I have to admit I was more focused on trying to get the mascot guy dressed as the tiger to come over to our side of the stadium rather than watching what those ball players were up to.  But it was fun in its own weird way.

It came to me some time back another aspect of this pod people thing.

Pod people are into experiencing life by proxy.

Meaning, instead of directly seeking experiences for themselves, they plug into proxies or stand-ins who have the actual experience for them. 

So the football crazed sports fan who can't talk about anything else, yet has never played ball himself, and who probably doesn't even attend the actual games but watches them on TV....he's experiencing life by proxy. He's plugging into all that tribal stuff about physical power and competitiion, which is universal in human experience.....but he's doing it through a proxy who is actually playing the game for him.

What's amazing is how personalized it gets for these people. They can truly end up all depressed and bummed out if "their team" doesn't win.  Even though they don't actually "own" that team. It's "theirs."

Pod people do the life by proxy thing.  They need other people to be on the front lines actually DOING, while they watch or comment, several steps removed from the action.

I absolutely adore adventurous people who have had the balls to get down in the mud of life, experience stuff, get dirty, make "mistakes" and learn from them. I fully believe that's what we're all meant to be doing if we want to discover our full potentials.

And I get absolutely annoyed at opinion makers and passive audience members who will loudly go on about such and such without having had any direct, first-hand, personal experience with the thing in question.

Television, the Internet and blogs, newspapers, etc - it all creates a feedy frenzy for the armchair dwelling life by proxy person.

I am guilty of this too because I have to incorporate silly celebrity gossip into some of the columns that I write for newspapers. And when I find myself scanning yet another mindless celeb gossip site or magazine, I can feel what's left of my wee, tiny brain turning to total mush.  I want Paris Hilton, Jessica Simpson, Lindsay Lohan, and all of these other inexplicably famous non-talents to be taken off to Mars in a space shuttle and left there.  smile

Commenting on other people who are the ones actually living, doing, and experiencing - that's pod people culture.  Life by proxy.  Don't actually DO anything with your life.  Fear of failure, fear of censure from the "tribe," and all that factor into how the pod folks monitor each other.

Here's to being what Hermit Brad above calls the "non-pod." Love that!  Can we start a Non-Pod Club?  What would our insignia be? Think of the secret handshake!

LipstickMystic aka Jennifer

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The insignia could be a cracked pod with a soul floating out of it.

"There cannot be progress without expression. There cannot be expression without separation. There cannot be separation without progress."-Ouroboros

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I've had some bad run ins with pods, they scare and confuse me rather than make me giggle. I'll toss in my favourite, feigners, what Laura K likes to call "Psychopats" but who acctually make up more than 60% of Society (In my paranoid World View anyway). People who act weak, live weak, and would gladly cause the next Holocaust if you gave them enough power. They go through life wearing aprons, playing with trucks, going to church, working 9-5 jobs and sleeping/watching tv for the rest of the day. Just regular normal people who aren't assholes simply because they lack the power to do so, but who drain my existence on a daily basis. You can usually tell what they are when they point to an innocent foreign guy on the bus and laugh.... ok so I'm a little bitter about that but anyway.

Then there's da funnies. Like the red neck who thinks Washington is the place where soap comes from, but who'll gladly vote for Bush next election so he can get rid of all the fags in his neiboughrhood... that whole 8 year max rule will come as quite a shock.

The sound he makes turns their heads
A sigh
And they're walking again