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Sinaptix, the idea of the need to forge or create a superior or energy body has been dealt with in the Toltec teachings, so I take it seriously. There is something to what these guys are saying along those lines. Look at the Organic portal matter as an example of how the ' Law of recurrence " might be turning out apparent humankind that are not exactly ensouled. Its by our emotional revulsion to certain horrors that we fabricate blindness. We think everyone is the same....like us, but this is not the case.
The Toltecs speak about a thing called " The mold of Man."
One of our greatest blind spots is to think that the others walking this Earth that seem like us in appearence are in fact the same. What the common folk are not snapping to is the fact that these warmongers don't feel remorse for their actions, while all the minions march off and do their dirty designs.
The Energy body is about maintaining cohesion and awareness when the point of transition comes....when you drop your physical body. At that point you need awareness in spades.
There is alot more to this than I can articulate at this point in time because I don't know it all, but I can feel parts of it.

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Higher Balance offers a bunch of free audio including the first CD to the foundation Meditation course.

http://www.hbidynamics.com/podcasts.html

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so you think this handbook is here to save your souls?


its all part of the design to distract you.


yes, keep talking, keep writing, keep exploiting yourself here. as if its going to bring clearity.

your thoughts, those thoughts of others that you read and apply, those pictures of colorful chakras and buddhist or gods, ect....they all in return bring you further away from that which you strive to come closer to.


welcome to the prison. i see most of you will return for another stay.

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Destructive criticism without a constructive alternative is a waste of time. If you have something constructive to say, loopforaloop, then say it.

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20 Reply by treehugger (edited by treehugger 2006-09-18 14:23:26)

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tenetnosce wrote:

OK I finished reading this book.  Great find, and thanks for sharing!

montalk wrote:

There's an interesting chapter in there on duality vs non-duality, basically about how on the grandest scale things are non-dual but incorrectly applying that idea here in this dualistic illusion is a trap. There is an excellent metaphor relating spiritual humans and non-spiritual humans to the white and red blood cells of the body. The point made regarding the idea of Darkness (which is like a virus) is "What would happen if your white blood cells sat down and did nothing under the idea that all is happening as it's supposed to be? You would die." (Worded better in the book). Or the way I see it, everything does happen as it should as long as this includes you doing as you should, which involves making righteous choices and acting on them.

I think this is a critical piece of the work and highlights the necessary balance between resisting and allowing.  It's worth reading this chapter, if nothing else.

*       *        *

I am still contemplating developing the sixth sense as a means to awakening, in contrast to experiencing the sixth sense as a result of awakening.

My heart sank a little as I was approaching the end of the book and realized that Eric was not going to reveal his techniques for meditation and gathering prana, named as the two prerequisites for awakening. . . unless I missed them somewhere.

Also I thought it was a bit strange that he never quite makes it back to how to communicate with "The Navigator".  O.K. so there is a higher dimensional aspect of ourselves that we can communicate with to receive guidance in our lives.  .  . nothing really new there. 

I kept thinking Eric was going to explain how to strengthen this connection, other than simply becoming aware that it exists.  He also makes no mention of learning how to properly interpret data coming in from the sixth sense.  I've found that misperception can occur with this sense, as with all the others, which makes it vulnerable to manipulation.  This necessitates discernment.

Again, is there something I missed? Anyone find it?

To answer your question...NO, you have to buy his tapes or join the Institute.
I too had read this a while ago and was disappointed when I realized he was not going to reveal the meditation techniques. I do recieve e-mails at least every couple weeks with offers for marked down prices on his meditation cds. I think its on sale for $49 right now. I just hate it when they get you hooked and then get to the most crucial point of it all and then say....sorry but you have to buy the rest. But thats just my feeling on that. Otherwise, I really thought it was great material.

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21 Reply by lyra (edited by lyra 2006-09-18 18:27:16)

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loopforaloop wrote:

welcome to the prison. i see most of you will return for another stay.

...........even worse are those who set themselves up as Gods, exacting judgment on their fellow man, confidently proclaiming who's going where after they die.  roll  "Insider" wannabe, anybody?   roll   You know, the religious fundamentalists also go around judging everybody around them, talking about who's going to be "saved" and who isn't, who's going to be "raptured" and who won't, who's going to "heaven" and who's going to "hell."   So, you've just put yourself in the same boat as the very people and attitudes of the "prison planet" that you're attempting to criticize.  Guess you didn't notice that absurd contradiction before you went ahead and hit the "Send" button.

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lyra wrote:
loopforaloop wrote:

welcome to the prison. i see most of you will return for another stay.

...........even worse are those who set themselves up as Gods, enacting judgment on their fellow man, confidently proclaiming who's going where after they die.  roll  "Insider" wannabe, anybody?   roll   You know, the religious fundamentalists also go around judging everybody around them, talking about who's going to be "saved" and who isn't, who's going to be "raptured" and who won't, who's going to "heaven" and who's going to "hell."   So, you've just put yourself in the same boat as the very people and attitudes of the "prison planet" that you're attempting to criticize.  Guess you didn't notice that absurd contradiction before you went ahead and hit the "Send" button.

I couldn't have said it better myself, so I'll just say, "yeah-- what she said!"

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Lono wrote:

I couldn't have said it better myself, so I'll just say, "yeah-- what she said!"

(except I had a typo in there....I typed "enacting" when I meant "exacting."  hyper fingers typing too fast! wink haha )

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loop
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zAaargh!ization rating

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Thanks Siriarc, I did.:)

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

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Millenium wrote:

Am I wrong, but did your comments about the book download bring out animosity from other posters?  Hmmm.....

Indeed, you are wrong.  You must have missed the fact that the "animosity"  you speak of was in reference to this statement from loopforaloop (bolded words my own emphasis):

loopforaloop wrote:

welcome to the prison. i see most of you will return for another stay.

Don't you just love it when people tell you where you're going to go after you die?  wink As if they're "God" themselves, in the know, with the inside scoop?  wink  Maybe you didn't see that, but, that was what brought out the "animosity" that you speak of, not loopforloop's comments about the book download.  Just to clarify.

Also, in looking back over the exchange, you'll see where montalk said (bolded words my own emphasis):

montalk wrote:

Destructive criticism without a constructive alternative is a waste of time. If you have something constructive to say, loopforaloop, then say it.

The issue being that loopforloop was ripping on something just for the sake of it, and without offering up any constructive feedback or better alternatives.   Loop's attitude was one of snobby, all-knowing superiority, while being unwilling to offer up any better ideas.  Hence, he got a zAAARRRGH! rating from SiriArc.  wink   

However, by including this comment:

Millenium wrote:

I hope in a free and open forum there is plenty of room for the optimist, pessimist,conventionalist, idealist, and cynic.  It is so good to question and it's so good to see your post....

...you're not-so-subtly implying that the animosity was based on lack of tolerance for questioning and dissenting opinion.  That's manipulative, and it misses the point entirely of what actually happened here.

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loopforaloop wrote:

so you think this handbook is here to save your souls?


its all part of the design to distract you.


yes, keep talking, keep writing, keep exploiting yourself here. as if its going to bring clearity.

montalk wrote:

Destructive criticism without a constructive alternative is a waste of time. If you have something constructive to say, loopforaloop, then say it.

The implied constructive portion of his message is easily found by reading between the lines and it is: To find the Truth, look within yourself.

loopforaloop wrote:

welcome to the prison. i see most of you will return for another stay.

His message here is quite profound: If one would continue to seek the truth outside of themselves instead of seeking it from within themselves, then they may be doomed to repeat their cycle here until they realize that they themselves ARE the Truth.

I am as is Void.

28 Reply by Pinkrlyq (edited by Pinkrlyq 2006-09-19 13:28:18)

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Xenopope wrote:

If one would continue to seek the truth outside of themselves instead of seeking it from within themselves, then they may be doomed to repeat their cycle here until they realize that they themselves ARE the Truth.

Now THAT's a statement!! big_smile 

*prints it out and hangs it over her headboard*

(reminds me of "The kingdom of God is within you.")

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SiriArc wrote:

loop
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recieves:

zAaargh!ization rating

http://www.andypope.info/charts/gauge.gif

That is gold. lol

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Millenium---I love the Limbaugh list.

Trouble is, the dope-o's who like him will never sit still long enough to read it.

And, by the way, the president is not the devil, it's his handlers and supporters.
He's just a pucking fuppet.