LipstickMystic wrote:There’s a much bigger problem than the fact that abductions of various forms happen. The real question is: why is it that humans seemingly have no conscious ability to “pilot" or control their soul/energy body? Why is this amnesia in place? Why does it take umpteen years of meditation and aggressive development of psychic/extrasensory abilities to be even to GLIMPSE what’s really going on with our energy bodies when we sleep….and when we die?
LIPSTICK!! *flailing arms wildly* I've been wanting to talk about this for months. Thank you, you are one of the only posters here who seems to consistently be 'on the level'.
LipstickMystic wrote:Why is this amnesia in place?
Less brain capacity and less DNA capacity. I think it is because these vessels have been de-engineered and that this was precicely one of the purposes for it. Control. Not only of the body but of the mind itself. Meaning control over any soul which would potentially incarnate into the vessel.
LipstickMystic wrote:Why does it take umpteen years of meditation and aggressive development of psychic/extrasensory abilities
Same. I think it could very well be because the vessels' capacity for 'operation' has been altered so as to inhibit exactly this type of development.
LipstickMystic wrote:I believe that our souls are derailed between lifetimes…..we lose all memory of the lifetime we’ve just come from…..and we seemingly have very little control over what happens to us next. And this was NOT the original intention when souls began coming down here to play with the experience of manipulating 3-D forms.
This sounds on point. Why do we require hypnotic regression just to remember other lifetimes? Because these memories have been somehow _withheld_ from us in our present state of incarnation. For me it is eerily reminiscent of the 'great deciever' and his fallen followers.
LipstickMystic wrote:This same derailment of our souls is happening during our sleep state.
I think so too - I've remembered several dreams where I was trapped in rooms or areas or even strange, unfamiliar types of environments.
LipstickMystic wrote:We go to sleep and don’t remember where the hell we’ve been
I would suggest this fact alone to be proof positive of a pointed effort of some sort to withhold from us any memories of realities outside of this limited material perception. I can sense in myself and even precicely feel the way memories of dreams seem to wither away so rapidly and even when I try to grab hold of those memories in that moment, there seems to be something blocking my willpower from experiencing recall.
LipstickMystic wrote:Because I have a feeling that most of us do not consciously die…meaning, when we make that final passage out of these bodies, we have no clue what is going on.
Right, we don't seem to have any sort of community consensus as to what anyone should or would expect to have happen after they die - except of course the portion of us who seem to believe that they cease to exist all together (god help them).
LipstickMystic wrote:During that three day period, you usually have a tremendous amount of joy at just being free of the physical body. Apparently, a body is truly is a lead weight around the neck of the soul….very “heavy" from a soul’s perspective. My boyfriend’s mom was literally bouncing off the walls, so happy was she to be out of that body.
This parallels what I've heard about a souls returning to oneness with the unified cosmos/reality - that it literally feels like joyous bliss and that this is actually the natural state of many of our souls. And yes the body would be a lead weight to the soul - much slower vibrationally and more dense.
LipstickMystic wrote:Now, from what I’ve seen and heard, after those three days the soul goes…elsewhere. And this elsewhere seems to depend on a lot of factors.
If the person was surrounded by really dense and terrible emotional energies at the time of their death….dying in murder, in a gruesome accident, through suicide or through the indulgence of nasty addictions….they don’t usually go to a happy place. They seem to get stuck in lower vibrations in the astral, because it would appear that you go to a place that mirrors the same vibrations you left with. Even the nicest of souls who have a good vibration overall can have their vibration dampened if they don’t have a “good" death and there’s lots of fear, hate, and trauma involved. So prayers for these souls is very important – you can intervene to some extent and lift these souls to a more highly vibrational resting spot.
WEOPPOSEDECEPTION wrote:Monroe also spoke about people going to wherever their belief systems take them.
Yes. And that there were those who, when they had died, believed that they would cease to exist. It really is all up to you and where you gravitate to.
WEOPPOSEDECEPTION wrote:I have heard talk about going into the light being a trap to get us to reincarnate again. Unfortunately I haven't heard any feedback from anyone who deliberately avoided the light. Who wants to be first?
I do! I'd heard that too and it initially struck me as ridiculous. I guess whenever I see 'the light', first I will duck around the backside of it to check if there's any boarded up wood planks or rinky-dink concoction XD
But seriously there should be some effort to gather feedback from those who have avoided the light. I think it was a cable television show, forgot which one (about the girl who died and became some sort of soul retriever or something), that said ghosts were dead people who had been convinced by an unincarnated deciever to avoid the light and stay near the earth realm because they could do so to perform some tasks for him and be protected by him there.
LipstickMystic wrote:but they just sort of remain STUCK there waiting for their next lifetime reassignment.
Why is the inference that one would recieve their next lifetime as an assignment from another? Because they themselves wouldn't choose it? If not, why would they accept the assignment?
LipstickMystic wrote:There are also many “schools" people go to, which look like really lovely universities with classic architecture, lots of light, and a bouncy, intellectual feeling. But even these to me seem like a reenactment of what souls are forced to do down here on earth. I mean, the average person these days goes to school and college for like, 20 years or more. In the afterlife, do we have to do this, too? Don’t we ever get our freakin’ diploma?
So to me the university setting ALSO seems like a hologram….a place of automatic, lockstep, “joining in" with what all the other souls at that vibration are doing.
Yes, the trap is in continuing to percieve things to be as they were while they were incarnated. As if this were some apex of existence. Control. Keeping souls bound to perception of this single solitary reality.
LipstickMystic wrote:There are many other places souls go, and there are also different time frames that are involved…..souls can actually reincarnate back into the PAST, going to an earlier timelines, and they can reincarnate in the FUTURE, too.
But you know what? The more I’ve seen about the afterlife and the more I’ve journeyed in the astral layers, the more I see that it’s all a BUNCH OF BUNK.
It really is a matrix, a seemingly fascinating yet somehow “stale" place where souls are automatically herded after death. They may THINK that they’re spiritually free, but how free are you when you’re back doing the same freakin’ things you were doing on earth?
This same situation was alluded to in the movie Matrix Reloaded, both while Neo spoke to the Architect and at the end of the movie when Neo used his own unknown ESP/EMP powers to disable the 'squiddies'. The inference was that the 'real world' was merely another portion of the matrix - an _extension_ of it for those who were able to escape their initial prisons. Interestingly, this idea was not granted the elaboration it deserved.
LipstickMystic wrote:So, all of these various sneak peeks at the afterlife and the various dimensions souls travel in have made me realize this – tell me if this resonates with you:
The universe is immensely social, and there has always been tons of interaction and communication between beings of various types and energies. This would appear to be a GOOD thing.
This immediately reminded me of another view of the universe which resonated with me a bit more - it is found in the lyrics of Tool's Vicarious:
Vicarious wrote:the universe is hostile, so impersonal, devour to survive so it is, so it's always been
Is it possible that some of us come from _another_ universe that is exactly as you describe?
www.therealmatrix.com wrote:Darkness (a.k.a. "Satan" or "the Devil") created the universe (this includes the higher dimensions, too). He is holding all of us captive inside of it. The true creator of existence lives in a different realm--the True Realm. The universe is indeed a crude pseudo-creation; everything in it is based upon programming (i.e. DNA). There is no programming in the True Realm, because it is not a virtual reality, it is simply reality. In the True Realm, crude concepts such as time, biological life, and physics do not exist. Only Darkness (a pseudo creator) would create a realm based on such things. Anything that is "technical" or governed by rules/restrictions (which is everything in the universe) is crude. The True Creator does not need to rely on any rules. That is why the universe is the Matrix--it has rules. It is a virtual reality, as opposed to reality.
http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2703 wrote:Spartan2402 wrote:Contact, October 15, 1996, p. 13 wrote:It should be noted that Shan [Earth] is a very unusual planet. [. . .] because of its abundance and beauty it was chosen as the "prison" planet by Lucifer, the Arch-Angel when he left the Cosmic Realms for his anarchy against God/Aton. As the most beautiful of celestial beings, Lucifer chose the most beautiful planet on which to live and carry out his evil plans. Along with Lucifer came a myriad of his evil supporters.
Therefore, Shan was given a great "handicap" in establishing an enlightened civilization. Shan became the harshest of "schoolrooms" for the most difficult of lessons. For this reason many of the celestial "Masters" have returned to Shan at this time to learn great lessons and to assist with the conquering of Lucifer/Satan and his Dark Brotherhood band. Shan has been a special schoolroom for the "gifted kids"---a tough course to learn tough lessons. Sadly enough, most have failed the course.
Satan's evil influence is the basic reason why Shan has never been able to reach harmony and balance. It is also the basic reason for each civilization becoming progressively more evil. In fact, there has never been such evil on any planet in our galaxy as there is today on Shan!
You too? I ran across this years ago when I was obviously not ready for it. How timely that it be presented to me tonight.
I am as is Void.
Personally, I've communicated with two people (after their deaths) who were suicides, and both of them were just fine and didn't undergo any sort of "punishment" for their actions (besides their own regrets of not being able to resolve their problems while on this plane of existence). They wanted me to communicate to family members things that they had left unsaid and unfinished. Who knows... I tend to believe that (just as in life), death is what we make of it.
What made her point interesting was that when most people talk that way, they do so from this mopey, depressed, Goth-like mentality of glorifying misery and suicide and hating life. She wasn't like that at all. She was fiesty and full of life, and very much not a Goth. But she believed that something was very wrong with this reality, to the point where it is a form of hell. She was also cool because she saw through people's bullshit, was forever tangling with the fake/non-souled people, and overall was just very real. 
Much as I love them. Don’t we have anything bigger or more important to be doing than just hanging around like cattle, waiting for somebody to give us our next incarnational assignment?