31 (edited by tiospaye1 2006-04-16 07:12:56)

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I too have been oberving chemtrail activity for some time now, probably on the order of 4 1/2 years.

The activity appears to increase substantially around the times of New Moon as well as Full Moon, which leads me to believe that in addition to many other reasons for chemtrail activity, well documented in the literature, there is also a more esoteric component to the chemtrails.

I am thinking more in terms of an experiment in alchemical transmutation on a planetary scale. That idea popped to mind this last Full Moon as I was watching the buzz of activity. I'm not even sure what the phrase might mean but it only stands to reason that when you consider the planet as a living organism, as per the Lovelockian-Gaia Hypothesis, then factor in the continued dousing of that organism with certain metals- forget about the other stuff for now-- at specified periods of lunar time, you will get definite alterations in the bio-energetic/etheric state of that organism.

At a guess, the underlying reason for the Chemtrail Programme is the  readying of the planet for the Invasion through frequency shift by alchemical transmutation.


In a manner of speaking.






"She's breakin' up Captin. Ah can lo longer hold  'er togerther."


                                                  -Scotty, who of course holds 'er together

32 (edited by Hourthirteen 2006-04-16 13:55:44)

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I listened to Coast to Coast last week and Alan Watt says that valium and prozac are in the chemtrails. I am inclined to believe THAT over 'deadly viruses' ... mainly because the majority of the American people act as if they just 'don't give a damn' like a number of people I know who are on these drugs.  Both of these drugs make you passive, apathetic. Sorry to insult anyone on these drugs, but I know some people who are on Prozac (they call it Vitamin P) who just don't want to FEEL. They use it to HIDE from themselves and anything that might possibly upset them in any way. Maybe afraid to feel. And now Prozac seems to be the 'drug of choice' for little children. My god, that is so pathetic.
Peace,
Summer

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Tiospaye1 wrote:

I am thinking more in terms of an experiment in alchemical transmutation on a planetary scale.

At a guess, the underlying reason for the Chemtrail Programme is the  readying of the planet for the Invasion

Or

http://curezone.com/forums/m.asp?f=547&i=136

http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/siriarc/Eagle1111.jpg

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Ah, chemtrails.  I live very close to Houston's airport and last summer and fall I would frequently see that a huge "X" had been chem-marked directly over the airport.  And I would wonder why on earth the FAA would allow planes to fly at right angles at low altitude right over the top.  Well, obviously they would not allow that if they had a choice.  That leads me to wonder if the source is from other than 3D, or perhaps another--non-friendly--nation was behind the phenomenon.

Late last fall I made this same observation on another forum I post on.  Since that time I have had my digital camera ready to record it, but it has not happened...

That really makes me wonder.

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great and would suffice.  ~Robert Frost

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Aquarius wrote:

Ah, chemtrails.  I live very close to Houston's airport and last summer and fall I would frequently see that a huge "X" had been chem-marked directly over the airport.

A friend of mine just commented to me two weeks ago that he was observing the same thing going on here in Los Angeles.  Sure enough I've seen a few chemtrails in "X" formations.    Strange ...

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Another thing that might make chemtrails hard to see for some people is that they also appear in movies, TV commercials and advertisements in magazines, newspapers... etc.    All these appear in the background of course, so you have to be sharp to see them or going looking for them as soon as a piece of sky shows up.   If you're not actually looking for them, this continuous repetition of seeing them in the background would condition the mind to not think anything is out of the norm and all is well.

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Infinity_+_1 wrote:

There are NO men, women or children on those planes...Other then the pilots. There are tanks in place of the seats and they are spraying, well, something. The popular idea being aluminum, barrium, dried human red blood cells. (we all have a pretty good idea where 1200 missing kids every day end up) And you bet this opperation is a shade or two beyond 3D.

How bad do you want to know?

How do you know there are no civilians on these planes? Why aluminum and barium, more importantly, dried human red blood cells??

You really think they kill the missing children? Can you cite any evidence, because now I'm concerned. neutral

38 (edited by Auendove 2006-04-29 08:28:33)

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http://oemagazine.com/fromThemagazine/jul03/Images/spheresill.jpg


barium (bâr'ēəm) [Gr.,=heavy], metallic chemical element; symbol Ba; at. no. 56; at. wt. 137.33; m.p. 725°C; b.p. 1,640°C; sp. gr. 3.5 at 20°C; valence +2. Barium is a soft, silver-white, chemically active, poisonous metal with a face-centered cubic crystalline structure. It is an alkaline-earth metal in group IIa of the periodic table. Its principal ore is barite (barium sulfate); it also occurs in the mineral witherite (barium carbonate). The pure metal is obtained by the electrolysis of fused barium salts or, industrially, by the reduction of barium oxide with aluminum. Barium is often used in barium-nickel alloys for spark-plug electrodes and in vacuum tubes as a drying and oxygen-removing agent. Barium oxidizes in air, and it reacts vigorously with water to form the hydroxide, liberating hydrogen. In moist air it may spontaneously ignite. It burns in air to form the peroxide, which produces hydrogen peroxide when treated with water. Barium reacts with almost all of the nonmetals; all of its water-soluble and acid-soluble compounds are poisonous. Barium carbonate is used in glass, as a pottery glaze, and as a rat poison. Chrome yellow (barium chromate) is used as a paint pigment and in safety matches. The chlorate and nitrate are used in pyrotechnics to provide a green color. Barium oxide strongly absorbs carbon dioxide and water; it is used as a drying agent. Barium chloride is used in medicinal preparations and as a water softener. Barium sulfide phosphoresces after exposure to light; it is sometimes used as a paint pigment. Barite, the sulfate ore, has many industrial uses. Because barium sulfate is virtually insoluble in water and acids, it can be used to coat the alimentary tract to increase the contrast for X-ray photography without being absorbed by the body and poisoning the subject. Barium salts give a characteristic green color in the flame test. Barium metal was first isolated in 1808 by Sir Humphry Davy by electrolysis.

http://www.answers.com/topic/barium

Not that I'm a chemist or anything, but I bolded what I found interesting.

A buddy of mine and I were just talking about barium in chemtrails earlier this week. As you can see by the last bolded sentence, barium could be used as a tracking device...and what an easy tracking device it could be compared to the cumbersome act of physical implantation, or even beginning to attempt to convince the poplulation to agree to RFID tagging...for their own good, of course. These difficulties in tagging "the herd" become completely mute when a chemical agent like barium is released in the air.

Before reading the above quote I didn't know for sure about its use as a drying agent, but I knew something was up with chemtrails and skin reactions. During times of heavy spraying in my area the skin on my face would have a reaction as if I had a mild chemical burn. This did hurt, and my whole face would peel. hmm...t'was not fun. And when I write heavy spraying I mean times when there's so many chemtrails it looks like a grid is being built in the sky. I've seen this more than a handful of times, and to see the criss-cross trails is just not at all unusual here (Tampa Bay, FL area).

And as much as I'm not a chemist, I'm also not one to mess with too much geometry ...but just given the words "cubic crystalline structure" gave me pause for thought.

Infinity_+_1 wrote:

There are tanks in place of the seats and they are spraying, well, something. The popular idea being aluminum, barrium, dried human red blood cells.

In this Rense article the author writes about barium in chemtrails, and its use in suppressing the human immune system--

http://www.rense.com/general29/bar.htm

Don't know what part aluminum would play in all this, but if it's true about there being an immunio-suppressing agent like barium sprayed with dried human red blood cells...well, think about the organ transplanting process. DNA manipulation has already been discussed on the thread.

Now suppose there is bio-nanotech piggy-backing on the dried red blood cells? GACK!!

Sounds like the foundation for a good sci-fi book, eh? tongue

Setting aside the over the top, and not so over the top, chemtrail conspiracy stuff, when I read this next quote I thought about what a crock of kwap this person is spewing--

post #1 wrote:

“Grids…  in the sky

Many theorists have used the observation of “chemtrail grids,…  or crosshatched contrail patterns as evidence that aircraft are blanketing target areas with sprayed agents.  To prove this, they would need two things. One: video or photographic evidence of aircraft emitting materials in a manner inconsistent with normal contrails, as described above.  Two: video evidence of a single aircraft making multiple passes over an area consistent with the formation of the grid pattern.  It would be helpful if we could actually see evidence of the spray nozzles being turned on and off during the maneuvers.

So far, I have seen no such videos, and none of the photos I have seen prove that this is the case.  All I have seen are photos of a few parallel trails and perhaps one intersecting trail.  (Why didn’t the photographers wait until the aircraft had completed real “grids…  and photograph those?)  In fact, there is a reasonable explanation for the formation of these parallel lines.

Aircraft flying above 18,000 feet are required to be on an “instrument flight plan.…   As such, they often follow “federal airways…  designed for the separation and management of air traffic – especially in the vicinity of hub airports.  Aircraft en route to the same destination are likely to be following one another on the same airway.  Think of these as highways in the sky.

Here’s what happens.  Aircraft A is traveling along airway XYZ, leaving a contrail behind.  Several minutes later, aircraft B follows on the same airway, tracking the exact same line over the surface of the earth.  It is also leaving a contrail.  However the air mass is in motion due to wind aloft, which carries the first contrail away from its original location.  The result is the contrail from aircraft B appears as a line parallel to that of aircraft A’s contrail.  Enter aircraft C, D, and E following the same airway.  You now have five parallel lines.  Add aircraft F, traveling a course perpendicular to the others, and you have the beginnings of a grid.

http://www.bariumblues.com/images/not_normal.jpg

As the note line to this picture says--this is not normal jet traffic. I don't care who says what to the contrary.

The last pic is from http://www.bariumblues.com/ . There's also info on the site about HAARP, too.

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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I've seen them turn off the nozzles and start them up again.

'Splain that, Lucy!

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NBC local news (in LA) aired an investigative report on chemtrails yesterday:

In a Channel 4 News investigation, Paul Moyer looks into why some say the government is manipulating the weather. You can watch the segment here:

It's a quiet mountain community, but some residents claim something's happening in the sky that's making them sick --
Mystery clouds and unusual contrails ... Is it a weather experiment on a massive scale?

You can watch the video segment here:

http://www.nbc4.tv/video/9265818/detail.html

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Several times while doing the agnihotra ceremony I noticed a huge hole in the chemtrails directly above my house. There was no intent involved here as I wasn't even aware they were there while I was doing the ceremony.

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Here's a little ditty my astrologer wrote about chemtrails:

Chemtrail Blues, by Chris Hedlund
(sung to the tune of Sinatra's Strangers in the Night)

"Chemtrails in the night
> spreading plague and spores
> Chemtrails in the night
> Sprayed by government whores
> Who would ever guess,
> I'd be sweating black balled goo. .?
>
> Wandering in the night
> in psychotic delirium
> the grass all dead with blight
> glowing like radium
> Who would ever guess
> I'd see those strange hairs sprouting all over you??????
>
> Strangers in the night!
> two chemtrail zombies.
> lovers in the night
> under the spraying bombies
> I jumped on your bod with lust,
> as chemtrail dust landed all over us. . .
>
> Ever since that night. .
> my d*** hath fallen off
> and your t**s melted and. . .
> you smell like dead pollock!
> It turned out so right
> for strangers in the night!
>
> doo bee doo bee doo
> da da da dee dah
> doo bee doo bee doo
> ha ha ha ha ha
>
> Death was just a dance away
> a few vapors of inhaled chemtrail spray. . . .
>
> doo bee doo bee doo
> da da da dee dah
> doo bee doo bee doo
> ha ha ha ha ha

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A friend of mine, her father passed away several years ago. He was a college professor, very grounded and not familiar with any conspiracy theory. As he was passing he was having all sorts of visions, mostly unpleasant. He said "Ellie, they're doing something to the air! They're doing something to the air!".

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And NOW they're trying to pass a bill in congress to make it legal to do what they're already
doing!  I learned this from the website above with the news report about the California
community and their yellow goop falling from the sky.
Talk about covering your tracks!

That's very interesting about the college professor who was passing and having visions.
They say you can pick up a lot more when you're in that borderland band of awareness.

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Once & Future wrote:

NBC local news (in LA) aired an investigative report on chemtrails yesterday:

In a Channel 4 News investigation, Paul Moyer looks into why some say the government is manipulating the weather. You can watch the segment here:

It's a quiet mountain community, but some residents claim something's happening in the sky that's making them sick --
Mystery clouds and unusual contrails ... Is it a weather experiment on a massive scale?

You can watch the video segment here:

http://www.nbc4.tv/video/9265818/detail.html

Excellent link! This further validates that it's happening, but the station's almost nonchalant attitude toward it is curious...