16 (edited by Bhang 2006-04-23 17:30:38)

Re: Alex Jones on CNN! transcript

That's why I HALF agree and HALF disagree, but please do not claim that I did not read your post, of course I did... otherwise I would not respond... I've made mistakes but I'm not an idiot as most of your post seems to speculate....

Lyara: Whether right or wrong, it is what it is.

Let time tell. I'm not against Sheen being mind controlled - in fact: I (aka BHANG) expect it. BUT - There still is a chance Mr. Sheen is a real human being that thinks for his own (to an extent)...

We all have our own ideas of reality. Point being thus: I'm half and half on your debate. I do not indorse your claim, nor do I deny it...
I just ask a few questions to get a better perspective.

"Even when you know the answer, you should test your students for the most honest truth."

Hyperdimensional Blogging

17 (edited by lyra 2006-04-23 19:03:36)

Re: Alex Jones on CNN! transcript

Bhang wrote:
Lyara wrote:

Lyara: Whether right or wrong, it is what it is.

Let time tell. I'm not against Sheen being mind controlled - in fact: I (aka BHANG) expect it. BUT - There still is a chance Mr. Sheen is a real human being that thinks for his own (to an extent)...

Bhang..........I'm confused here.   My quote "Whether right or wrong, it is what it is" was specifically regarding those people out there who are guaranteed to go after Charlie Sheen's character, instead of looking at his argument.  We know they're going to do this because people have done it before to others, so it's a predictable reaction......you wouldn't do it, I wouldn't do it, Alex Jones wouldn't do it, but others would, and whether right or wrong, it is what it is.   It's how many people operate....and TPTB knew that.  Anyway, that's what I was actually saying.  That's the correct context of that quote you've chosen to excerpt.   So....I'm confused regarding your response, because the response doesn't seem to mesh at all with what I was saying.   At any rate, I created #24 as a direct result of this.   wink

http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic. … 128#p36128


But as far as this goes:  "I've made mistakes but I'm not an idiot as most of your post seems to speculate...."

If I come across as if speculating that you're an idiot, all I can say is that this is the kind of thing that keeps happening whenever you choose to make a post to me.   I mean, you got my name wrong too.  I'm not Lyara, it's lyra.   That's small potatoes, because the real issue is taking this one small, itty bitty line......out of two long posts........and then generating a response that doesn't even match up at all with the quote.  I mean yeah, it's weird, and frustrating.


But as far as the possibility of Sheen not being mind controlled..............of course.  And I did acknowledge that possibility in my last post:

lyra wrote:

And maybe it is a simple case of speaking out against TPTB and having hell to pay because of it.....

So I'm not sure what exactly we're going back and forth about at this point if you must know.   I mean, what exactly are we debating?    I've said my view, which you 1/2 agree with.  You've said yours, which I've acknowledged is definitely a possibility.  So.....now what?   I don't know.  This doesn't make any sense.   So, with that, I'm leaving off here.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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18 (edited by Risen 2006-04-23 20:39:51)

Re: Alex Jones on CNN! transcript

Well, here is my take on the Sheen stuff.  I could be wrong but this is just what my gut is telling me...

Seeing how that 90% of people out there (you know, fully plugged in...) are so into TV, it is of course one of the most popular and effective ways of controlling them.  So yeah Sheen and others like himself have been, are, and will be used to "program" the general populace.  See, through hollywood/TV that plugged-in crowd can be easily programmed to either like or dislike something -- or both, creating polarity which accomplishes the same end.

So just as example, let's say Sheen comes out talking conspiracy, and then is made to look like a complete fool/idiot.  Everyone connects sheen with conspiracy so if Sheen is an idiot then so is anyone who talks about conspiracy.

So let's call him a "tool" for now (i know...)  Now heres the thing -- It may be that sheen is aware *or* unaware of his being a tool.  And further, it may be that even the PTB are unaware of his being a tool.

What I mean is this:  Goro Adachi has talked several times about how Arnold (governator) is fulfilling a role based on his character history in movies.  Goro says Arnie may not even be much aware of it.  So I'm saying people often dont even know what/how they're being used, they just end up playing the role, not necessarily on purpose.

So uhm, what if we take Goro's method and apply it to Sheen?  I dont get too into Hollywood so maybe someone can give me a rundown of some of Sheen's most popular roles in movies?? 

I'd appreciate that, for speculation purposes if nothing else...

This is no time for the righteous
Only the wicked survive
Bake up a batch of the Yellow Cake
Bake up a batch of the lies
- - - - -[ Yellow Cake - Ministry - Rio Grande Blood (2006)

19 (edited by lyra 2006-04-23 21:21:58)

Re: Alex Jones on CNN! transcript

Risen wrote:

So uhm, what if we take Goro's method and apply it to Sheen?  I dont get too into Hollywood so maybe someone can give me a rundown of some of Sheen's most popular roles in movies?? 

I'd appreciate that, for speculation purposes if nothing else...

Well, here's the link to Charlie Sheen's info. on www.imdb.com which includes everything he's ever acted in:

http://imdb.com/name/nm0000221/


In his case, in light of the allegations against him, some particulars that stand out:

No Code of Conduct
Loaded Weapon
Beyond the Law
Hot Shots
Shadow Conspiracy
Bad Day on the Block
Loose Women

big_smile

Then the tagline for the movie "Deadfall", some (supposedly) atrociously bad movie from 1993:

"You wont know who to trust.  What to believe.  Or where to turn."

I think that just about sums up the Charlie Sheen situation, what do you think??   !

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: Alex Jones on CNN! transcript

I noticed this co-incidence of the Charlie Sheen 9-11 comments and his personal life troubles.

I commend Charlie on voicing his opinion (even if its four years after 9-11).  I feel it is unfortunate that it co-incides with his wife's legal accusations (who knows, maybe he really is doing these reprehensible acts?).

It all adds to the neverending story of the secret PTB forces ridiculing those who have the courage and guts to speak their mind and views.

All we can do is watch what continues to unfold on these matters.

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