Topic: Alex Jones on CNN! transcript

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Jones was on CNN Headline News' Showbiz Tonight last night.  Here's the transcript.  I had heard Charlie Sheen was publicly questioning 9/11, but didn't know it was on Jones' show.  Showbiz Tonight had already covered Sheen's comments, now they interviewed Alex Jones.  Haven't read it all yet, had to post it here first.  There's a link to a video on infowars.com for all you with fancy computers.

It seems like CNN is covering this from a fairly open perspective.  Where might this lead?

"Isolation, mis-education, and for the very clever there is looming liquidation."  -Catch Twenty-Two "Bad Party"

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thoughtcrime wrote:

It seems like CNN is covering this from a fairly open perspective.  Where might this lead?

Good question... any guesses on what is up with the timing on this? Since the possible timeline shift last fall, numerous things seemed to have gotten moved up to spring 2006... particularly March. 

So now March is here and the theme seems to be "destruction of the old order." We had V for Vendetta out on March 17th (destruction of fascist government), Charlie Sheen doing his thing (further destruction of the official 9/11 story), Da Vinci Code movie coming out in a month or two (destruction of the Church), and The Secret out recently plus the Celestine Prophecy next month (destruction of limiting belief systems). A lot of mile markers in a short span of time signifying some new phase.

Sheen has had years to do what he only did this past week...interesting timing. I wonder though what motives there could be behind this. On the positive side, it's further steps towards emboldening people to wake up and resist deception. Maybe it was just good timing, maybe Sheen is part of something and is playing his role as planned, maybe it's the manifestation of the timeline shift towards a more positive reality than otherwise.

On the negative side, maybe since the President's incompetence is so suspiciously obvious, there might be an agenda behind the mounting anti-Bush movement -- it could be a reaction to an intentional problem that will set the stage for an engineered solution. So like the UFO "coverup" the secret government uses the official government to play the role of denial and suppressor while simultaneously funding and steering the fringe at a controlled rate towards desired ends.

I don't know... guess we'll see where this goes. For those mad as hell about the 9/11 lie, this turn of events with Sheen on CNN is a real godsend. I can only hope that similar things happen to the other institutions of deception, like the Church, Science, Education, etc...

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.

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Montalk wrote:

... any guesses on what is up with the timing on this? 

the theme seems to be "destruction of the old order."

maybe it's the manifestation of the timeline shift towards a more positive reality than otherwise.

I can only hope that similar things happen to the other institutions of deception, like the Church, Science, Education, etc...

Some of this might be considered:

Snipolas from:

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You're in-between... in a balanced area. Do you think that's an accident? I'm telling you that there is something upon you - a mantle of purpose - an energy of responsibility - that cries out for you to take a little time every day and use the divinity you carry! Use it to exploit the quantumness of your relationship to the rest of the Human family. Do it just in your spare time and it will change the earth.
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Then my group arrived and gave you the information directly that the magnetic grid of the planet would shift greatly over 12 years, and it began to do so. Along the way, there was proof that it had, and even geologists knew it was so as they measured the magnetic shift – one that was greater than it had ever been. Then we started to give you the esoteric reasons as to why the grid was shifting, if you had paid attention. We told you it had to do with your DNA. If you were going to accomplish peace on Earth, if you were going to manifest the potential of what you felt was your purpose, this magnetic grid would have to shift, thus somehow changing the potential of your actual biological DNA. That's why the grid group came and did what it did.
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But they're all related. Every single one. Some of them contain the 11 energy... easy for you to see.

Venus Transit.   We said it would be an event to deliver feminine balance to the planet.    The ones who will be the most affected by a feminine balance on this planet of male and female polarity are the ones who are out of balance.

The grid was complete. The Venus Transit came in. Next, the Harmonic Concordance was like a bookend to the Convergence. We've talked about that before. All of this represented a period of years where the shift was seen and began to be completed. To us, these things didn't necessarily happen in a linear order as they did for you, but in an order nevertheless... a kind of circle (in our thinking). And this circle of energy made way for something else.
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One of the most profound energetic events that has ever happened on this planet took place recently, but most of you missed it.   On March 5, 2005, a grand event occurred. Some saw it and named it. In Human language, I will give you the name. It was called the Paradise Matrix. I'll tell you what it was, and when I do, you'll know why the grid was shifted and more about the set up. The Paradise Matrix, on March 5, 2005, I will call "Ascension Day." It was a moment in time, yet out of time, when all of the masters who had ever lived on this planet came back to Gaia. They returned.
This combined ascension consciousness resides perfectly on a tuned magnetic grid, one that took 12 years to accomplish. And that perfectly tuned magnetic grid was created so that this master energy could reside upon it. As they reside upon it, the energy that it generates is then transferred to your DNA as a potential of manifestation.
It has become a catalyst that allows the grid to work as a master transmitter to your DNA. This information that is transmitted, however, is only that... an interdimensional transmission. You are the receiver, and through free choice, you can now "tune in" or not to this beautiful, balanced energy. Can you see how it now "shakes hands" with the Venus Transit?
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Here's what I'm telling you. In 1987 (the 11:11), you made a decision to create the impossible. Can you really have peace on Earth? Look around you. Does it look like you're going to be successful? [many are saying "no."] Well, this entity thinks so! Because I see what's cooking "under the hood." The magnetic grid of this planet has the attributes right now of mastery, and that's why it was shifted and that's why it was created. This is news we never shared... the real purpose of the grid shift was all about Ascension Day. It's now perfectly tuned for DNA reception in the Human Being. Remember, Human DNA has its own magnetic field. The actual attributes of DNA are as a loop, and this loop creates a magnetic field. This field has been noticed recently within your own science [Dr. Vladimir Poponion], and even has been said to be a quantum field. Therefore, it's no longer an esoteric stretch of your imagination to see that your Earth's magnetic field can affect your DNA through electrical inductance... the name given when two magnetic fields interact with each other to create a shift in attributes.

The Human Being is now being given permission to allow this shift to begin changing the DNA in his body – through free choice. You see, not all of the things that are happening are invisible, and some might even start making some sense. The ironic thing here is that these changes were foretold within the calendars of your most ancient races!
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Masters are a bastion unto themselves, a complete system without outside assistance. But the true master understands that his resource is the collective energy of everything...
It's a process of seemingly creating something out of nothing. That's what's in a master's pocket!

It's part of what you do, you know? It's what you came here for. And it will pass soon. You are the ones who can make the difference right now, while the darkness rages.

Light from you! Can you do that? Send light there and watch the shifts occur. Pick up this tool kit and begin the personal shift right where you sit.

Remember this day as a turning point, an epiphany of what you really came to do.

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After reading some of the site I can't tell if this is a disinformation campaign.

They say they have the full support of the family members of those on the flight. They say they all the "real" recordings from air-traffic control, to military communications, to the victims last phone calls.

I'm sure no matter what; I'll cry watching this flick but I will be very critical of the information they lay out. If this is some mis-informed propaganda I'll be very pissed. That would be disrespecting the dead, the nation and the whole world.

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This sounds promising

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11 … on_cnn.htm

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Wasn't it Charlie Sheen who uncovered existence of aliens & underground alien bases in the movie The Arrival? Here's the tagline of the movie:

The greatest danger facing our world has been the planet's best kept secret...until now.
For centuries we've been watching the skies, when we should have been watching our backs.

He's heavily influenced by his movie characters it seems... uhm... or??

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

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So when this whole Charlie Sheen thing broke last month, I was intrigued...yet leary.  I knew it was all too good to be true, and "something" was going to happen to Charlie Sheen in the coming months as a result of it.   Overall, the entire situation struck me as being planned.

Well, that something happened, but now that I've read up on it, it seems that this something was the plan all along, rather than something that would spontaneously generate after he came forward regarding the 9/11 conspiracy.

See, the biggest thing I couldn't get over was, "Why now?"  September 11th happened almost five years ago.......and the dude's coming forward....now?  Saying the things that some of us were saying back then?   What took him so long?  Why the wait?  Why now?

Oh, because he didn't have a wife and two kids back then, nor a serious gambling habit, kiddie porn habit, etc. and so on.  wink  In other words, stuff that could become a tangled mess.

And I don't get into all this in a celeb gossip way - it's purely because I was following the Sheen/911 story with interest, and just knew something was going to happen.  Call it intuition, I don't know.   So, I'm talking about all of this due to the REALLY far out, "woo woo" implications of it all, which I'll get to in a second, rather than celeb gossip.

Denise Richards, his wife, is asking for a restraining order on Charlie, and the Smoking Gun has got a copy of the 17 page legal document that she filed in SoCal:

From www.thesmokinggun.com:

The Smoking Gun wrote:

"In a searing court attack on Charlie Sheen, actress Denise Richards alleges that her estranged husband is unstable, violent, addicted to gambling and prostitutes, and visits pornographic web sites featuring young men and girls who appear underage. In a remarkable sworn declaration (a copy of which you'll find below) filed today in Los Angeles Superior Court, Richards also charges that Sheen, 40, assaulted her and threatened her life during a December 30 incident at the actress's Los Angeles home. Richards claims that an enraged Sheen--who was over for a visit with the couple's two children--told her she was "f*cking with the wrong guy" and called her a series of vulgar names in front of the children. The actor, Richards said, then shoved her to the ground and screamed, "I hope you f--king die, bitch." As Richards, 35, tells it, Sheen was angry because she had told her divorce attorney about discovering details of Sheen's porn-surfing practices. Richards's declaration, filed in support of her request for a restraining order against Sheen, contends that Sheen "belonged" to "disturbing" sites "which promoted very young girls, who looked underage to me with pigtails, braces, and no pubic hair performing oral sex with each other." Other sites visited by Sheen, Richards alleges, involved "gay pornography also involving very young men who also did not look like adults." Richards claims that she also discovered that Sheen "belonged to several sex search type sites" on which he "looked for women to have sex with." His online profile, Richards adds, included a photo of "his erect penis." The Richards evisceration also portrays Sheen as a lousy father who urged her to abort their first child. And, when she was about to give birth to their second child via a C-section, Sheen's attention was "diverted to his pager for the results of his betting."

Then the document gets into his conspiracy nutto "interests." wink  And this is what interested me, and I was wondering if this would be included in the doc:

Document wrote:

"The Respondent became paranoid.   He was obsessing about various topics.  Respondent began to obsess about vaccines being poisonous, about 911 being a conspiracy, purchasing gas masks on the internet, and putting guns under our coffee table so that they would be within reach if someone broke into our house."

Okay, this is what I'm interested in.

Vaccines being poisionous.........I'm behind that.

9/11 being a conspiracy.....absolutely.   

So at first it might seem that the guy is being set up in order to discredit him.

But not so fast.  It seems to be deeper than that.

Within the other 17 pages of the document is very detailed (and believable) account of this guy's completely mentally unstable behavior.  Violence, threatening to kill her................not necessarily denying that he had the prostitute killed who sold her story to the National Enquirer last year. (I hadn't heard about that....but apparently she turned up dead after her story was published.)  Denise had reason to believe he was behind it, after all the times he threatened to have her killed, telling her things like "You're f*cking with the wrong guy" and "You don't know who you're dealing with..." etc.  When Denise point blank asked him if he had the prostitute killed, he would only say "No comment."  So, yeah.  !   I mean, you read the document and you seriously feel sorry for this woman.  Bad, bad situation for any woman to be in.

And after reading the entire thing, what I concluded was that it almost seemed to me that his coming forward now about 9/11 was done deliberately to coincide with his life having a meltdown in a very serious way.  These are serious claims she's making about him, it's not like, Oh, we're incompatible and the relationship's not working, I want a divorce.  No, it's the guy can't lay of the drugs, gambling, prostitutes and kiddie porn, in between verbally abusing her and threatening to have her killed every week.   It just seems to me that "something" wanted him to come forward, seeming like he was going to be the celeb spokesperson for the 9/11 Conspiracy movement....spearheading a campaign movement of sorts.......only to be made to look like a complete nut job.   

I mean, do you see what I'm getting at here?

I know that it sounds so far fetched, but this is what I'm seeing.  And I knew it last month when this story first broke with Charlie going on Alex Jones.   Charlie didn't just wake up one morning and "decide" to go on the Alex Jones radio show.  Hello.   Celebs don't just do that!  Come on now.   If it seems too good to be true, then it usually is.

So yeah, it's totally eye rollingly transparent what's going on here.   Take a guy who's completely mentally unstable, and choose him to be the celeb spokesperson for the 9/11 conspiracy movement.  And time it so that when he goes forward, he does it right as his personal life is imploding and some very incriminating and embarrassing accusations are going to go public.  Denise Richards has the proof to back up her claims as noted in the legal document.  It's not just some crazed wife making up wild tales.   So, things are not looking good for Charlie.

See, Charlie could have come forward, oh, say 4 or 5 years ago.  When the public needed to hear this the most.  And when his personal reputation was only moderately in shambles.   Now his whole life has totally imploded in a very bad way.   Bad timing!

But, that was obviously somebody's plan. 

Alex Jones has talked about how dragging Charlie's personal life into the debate is of course, completely irrelevant, and it's also a fallacy of debate.  Don't tear down Charlie's 9/11 argument by taking on his personal life.   That's what's known as a Straw Man.  Huge blunder in debate.

And while that's all very true and well and good, the fact is, Charlie's life WILL be scrutinized, regardless of whether it's relevant or not.  That's just what people are going to do.   You can complain about it, point it out, scoff at it.......but it doesn't change the fact that people will still do it.  Whether right or wrong, it is what it is.   And something knew that, and that's why I have my theory that all of this was planned.   The timing is impeccable.   And they, whoever "they" are, decided to kill several birds with one stone as well.  It's not just 9/11.  It's the vaccines issue too, which is mentioned several times throughout the document.   Charlie couldn't just argue the facts about vaccines.  Nope.  He had to get all crazed and violent about it, to the point where their children's pediatrician "fired" them and refused to be their doctor because of his temper and phone threats.    So what is that going to do for helping the anti-vaccine movement?   People will of course focus on his negative violent behavior, and attempt to discredit anybody who supports the anti-vaccine movement as being crazy.   And this isn't "slippery slope" theorizing, this is based on the way it goes out there in the world.

This is why these movements get labeled as crazy.   It's because too many people involved in them act like crazies. 

But, that's the plan.  So we really shouldn't be suprised.  "Nothing to see here folks, move it along..."

(ps.....I logged back onto the 'net just so I could add this....I don't want to sound like I'm all emotionally caught up in this, because I'm not.   Even if it sounds like I'm choosing sides and/or even "judging" Charlie Sheen, I'm not.  In fact, when I read through the document at Smoking Gun, the first conclusion I had was to sit back and think "Wow.  That dude has some major negative entity attachments going on."  Negs especially attach to those who are hard core drug users, and he fits the profile.  So it's in my belief that his compulsions and addictions aren't even entirely his own and his behavior is being manipulated by something else.  After reading through it all I concluded that he's not the sole pilot behind the wheel.)

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Lyra,
Thanks for posting that long explanation I agree that the timing is very strange and that Charlie doesn't seem to the one running the show in his life.   So you made many good points, it would be interesting to see if Charlie starts to moan about UFO's that would be so inline with everything else.

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PleiadianHealer wrote:

it would be interesting to see if Charlie starts to moan about UFO's that would be so inline with everything else.

Well, don't hold your breath, because I doubt he will.   In analyzing what he's said on Alex Jones, as well as what was disclosed about his personality in the document on Smoking Gun, Charlie seems to be the nuts-and-bolts conspiracy guy.   Guns, gas masks, 9/11 as a government plot, coupled with accusations that he has the mentality of "Don't f*** with me or I'll have you taken out."  He's got a nuts and bolts conspiracy personality, not wishy washy New Age personality prone to moaning about something, least of all UFOs.  It's all about reading people.  wink

And actually, if anything, Charlie would most likely be the guy with a sniper rifle plucking the UFOs off one by one.  But moaning about them?  Nah.  Not his style.  big_smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Nice research, Lyra.  Maligning a person's character (even if there may be lots to malign) is a classic technique for damaging the credibility of a person who may be sharing accurate information.

The Charlie Sheen incident could be a set up from the beginning or it could be damage control.

My opinion is that The Powers That Be may be trying a little too hard to portray a particular depiction of 9/11/2001.  Trying just a little too hard - in this example and other places with regard to 9/11.  Truth strikes me as effortless, but deception may take lots of work.


Bhang wrote:

If this is some mis-informed propaganda I'll be very pissed.

Hey Bhang.  I've seen an ad for this movie (Flight 93) - the plane that went down in Pennsylvania on Sep. 11, 2001.   My current opinion is: get ready to be pissed.

We'll see when the movie comes out - but I don't plan on seeing it in the theaters.

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wandering1 wrote:

Nice research, Lyra.  Maligning a person's character (even if there may be lots to malign) is a classic technique for damaging the credibility of a person who may be sharing accurate information.

The Charlie Sheen incident could be a set up from the beginning or it could be damage control.

Yeah, see, what I'm thinking, (and I know this sounds a bit nutty on the surface, but, the timing is just so weird that this theory begs to be considered) but it almost seems that:

A.  Charlie was being programmed by "something", who knows who or what, to be all zealously ("violently") into the conspiracy stuff, and...

B. ....whoever was programming him, might have also been influencing his behavior in his personal life and personal relations, causing him to go completely nutto aggro, and be engaging in illegal and embarrassing/questionable activities, all with the plan to have him come forward with his 9/11 commentary right at the same time that his personal life implodes.

Yes, I know, some would say it sounds nutty, but what are to make of the timing of it all, you know?   And if it seems far fetched that a person could be used in such a callous "pawn-like" way, where their personal lives could be steered and directed like that, as if they're nothing but a puppet on a string, then we have to realize that it happens all the time, every day.  And especially if someone isn't in control of their own self, due to heavy drug use, etc.   It leaves them wide open for anything to get in and take over.  Whether that something be negative entities.......human mind control handlers with an agenda, (or both!) etc. and so on.  Hollyweird stars are especially susceptible to programming and handlers it seems from the research.   Anything is possible.   

And it also might be far fetched to think that something would go to such great lengths to create a pawn like that all in the name of further derailing the growing 9/11 conspiracy movement, (and other movements on a lesser sub note, including anti-vaccines)  but seriously, you never know, right?   As crazy as it all sounds, I just keep coming back to the fact that a well known, high level celebrity actor came forward and loudly started challenging the facts on 9/11......an unusual behavior in itself.....but doing so four and half years after the fact.....and right as his personal life was about to implode from behind the scenes!   

Don't know what to make of it.  But something is suspicious.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Lyra, I half agree and half disagree

The whole point of it is the 9/11 truth movement. So why focus on his persoanl life?

As I wrote to another member on my site:

Mr. Sheen's personal affairs are not the issue here.

The issue is the 9/11 truth movement. Period.

We all have had problems with our family and friends. If I said I do not agree with the war in Iraq, would you bring up something I did to my exgirlfriend?

This is a media tactic to take the heat away from the truth. I don't care if Mr.Sheen snorted a pound of coke every day for breakfast, smoked a carton of marlboros and chased it all down with a pint of whiskey while spanking the monkey to pixels... the point is 9/11, not his marriage.

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The Cautionary Tale of Charlie Sheen..

As a sign of these times, we must travel down the path. The story is set in Hollywood, as so many stories are, involving a man that has become a house hold name. Charlie Sheen. A career, like so many others, marked with the rise and fall of popularity, tabloid scandals, sex drugs and Rock & Roll.

This man, so may call, an average Hollywood citizen, has gone against the grain of American Politics. He has dared to call, with the voice that he has earned in Hollywood, has dared to call our servants in Washington, to do their duty, and to take a second look at the miserable official reports, and shaky evidence given within those reports, detailing the events of and around September 11th, 2001.

At first, the political behemoth turned a blind eye. It's thick skin, so scarred and desensitized to the wailing and gnashing of common folk teeth. Then the national media, in a fit of disobedience took notice. They still called Mr. Sheen a conspiracy theorist, but to the amazement of the Beast, they broadcast information about Building 7, Free fall speed of collapse, ineptitude of hijacker pilots, and cover ups the Beast would rather not be spotlighted.

Suddenly the beast twitches, and Mr. Sheen has a restraining order, prohibiting him from seeing his two daughters. Mr. Sheen has been accused of abusing his estranged wife, and the spotlight is no longer on his words of descent, but on his actions, that may or may not be true.

A cautionary tale, a tale to make you think twice, a tale to warn those that may come out and speak their mind. A tale about disturbing the Beast and facing the consequences of its wraith.

- Jedimaster

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Bhang wrote:

Lyra, I half agree and half disagree

The whole point of it is the 9/11 truth movement. So why focus on his persoanl life?

As I wrote to another member on my site:

Mr. Sheen's personal affairs are not the issue here.

The issue is the 9/11 truth movement. Period.

We all have had problems with our family and friends. If I said I do not agree with the war in Iraq, would you bring up something I did to my exgirlfriend?

This is a media tactic to take the heat away from the truth. I don't care if Mr.Sheen snorted a pound of coke every day for breakfast, smoked a carton of marlboros and chased it all down with a pint of whiskey while spanking the monkey to pixels... the point is 9/11, not his marriage.

Well, that's nice and all, but, I already talked about this, had you read my entire post you would have seen where I said:

lyra wrote:

Alex Jones has talked about how dragging Charlie's personal life into the debate is of course, completely irrelevant, and it's also a fallacy of debate.  Don't tear down Charlie's 9/11 argument by taking on his personal life.   That's what's known as a Straw Man.  Huge blunder in debate.

And while that's all very true and well and good, the fact is, Charlie's life WILL be scrutinized, regardless of whether it's relevant or not.  That's just what people are going to do.   You can complain about it, point it out, scoff at it.......but it doesn't change the fact that people will still do it.  Whether right or wrong, it is what it is.   And something knew that, and that's why I have my theory that all of this was planned.   The timing is impeccable.   And they, whoever "they" are, decided to kill several birds with one stone as well.  It's not just 9/11.  It's the vaccines issue too, which is mentioned several times throughout the document.   Charlie couldn't just argue the facts about vaccines.  Nope.  He had to get all crazed and violent about it, to the point where their children's pediatrician "fired" them and refused to be their doctor because of his temper and phone threats.    So what is that going to do for helping the anti-vaccine movement?   People will of course focus on his negative violent behavior, and attempt to discredit anybody who supports the anti-vaccine movement as being crazy.   And this isn't "slippery slope" theorizing, this is based on the way it goes out there in the world.

I'm well aware of what you're talking about here Bhang, in both your posts, but, I still don't believe that's entirely what's happening here.  I think it's actually a bit more woo-woo than that.   In my last post I clarified even more what I meant by the woo-woo timing of it all:

lyra wrote:

Yeah, see, what I'm thinking, (and I know this sounds a bit nutty on the surface, but, the timing is just so weird that this theory begs to be considered) but it almost seems that:

A.  Charlie was being programmed by "something", who knows who or what, to be all zealously ("violently") into the conspiracy stuff, and...

B. ....whoever was programming him, might have also been influencing his behavior in his personal life and personal relations, causing him to go completely nutto aggro, and be engaging in illegal and embarrassing/questionable activities, all with the plan to have him come forward with his 9/11 commentary right at the same time that his personal life implodes.....

As crazy as it all sounds, I just keep coming back to the fact that a well known, high level celebrity actor came forward and loudly started challenging the facts on 9/11......an unusual behavior in itself.....but doing so four and half years after the fact.....and right as his personal life was about to implode from behind the scenes!

I don't think it's a simple case of "Speak out against the Powers That be and there will be hell to pay!" so much as it may be a case of someone being programmed to destroy his personal life, while simultaneousl being programmed to go forward about 9/11 to act as the "celeb spokesperson for the truth!" all in an effort to make sure that his personal life will bite him in the ass and make the entire 9/11 conspiracy movement look stupid.  Right or wrong, people will look at a person's personal life and judge them based on that.......and they will make the unconscious link between "9/11 conspiracy movement" = "unstable mental wackos who hit their wives, have prostitutes killed, stockpile guns and watch kiddie porn!"  I don't do that.  You don't do that.   Alex Jones knows it's a fallacy.   But let's face it........that's what people do. 

I can understand if you disagree with my point of view, but it seems you weren't fully understanding what exactly my point of view even was before disagreeing.   You at least have to fully understand where I'm coming from, before we can agree to disagree.  wink  And maybe it is a simple case of speaking out against TPTB and having hell to pay because of it. But if his wife's accusations are indeed true, and can be proven, then what possessed him to begin acting in such a crazy and incriminating way just prior to him coming forward?  Weird, weird timing.....

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