Re: Dreams

starscape wrote:
mindovermatter wrote:

One thing i will say about the example i gave of my last dream, is that when i dreamt about the event, i remember i was uncomfortable with my customer and we were both angry at each other. But when the event actually happened in reality, it wasn't like that at all, he was a nice guy and we didn't have any problems.

I'm so glad somebody else has written about this.  It happens to me all the time, ok, not ALL the time, but periodically throughout my life.  I've always just written it off as deja vu myself, but now i'm curious if it could be more intrical than that.  I'm curious to see what everyone else here thinks too. wink

and a hearty thanks to mindovermatter for bringing it up!!

I think maybe it's a sort of time loop, like giving somebody a second chance. I've always heard (and believe) that circumstances occur in the spirit realm first, then trickle down to the physical. Since the spirit realm is said to not have linear time, then these circumstances can occur over and over (hence reoccurring dreams...?) giving someone several opportunities to effect a circumstance in the appropriate manner that very well may have a profound effect on them, or the other person. It might be a result of those in the spirit realm knowing that the person or circumstance you are going to realize may never occur again.

Magis Amica Veritas

I would rather control myself, than someone else.

en courage (heart)
in spire (spirit)
en thuse (theos)

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Jedi wrote:

Any thoughts my friends?

"Perfect Love casts out all fear"

My dad also "taught" me another thing: when he saw "red eyes", he responded with, "You've got to be kidding!"

Magis Amica Veritas

I would rather control myself, than someone else.

en courage (heart)
in spire (spirit)
en thuse (theos)

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Sorry for that short previous post. I had to leave the office to go on a run.

Continuing . . .

My dad, and evidently many ancestors, have had quite a lot of non-normal experiences. So when one of these "entities" crops up, he is not phased much.

Don't give them power via your fear. Laughing is also another technique. They abhor pridelessness (humility), Love, and hope. The more attention you give them, the longer they'll stick around. Try to focus your energy, awareness, and life on positive things. Be conscious of the negative things that you may be doing, for this matches their vibration and draws them to you.

Plus, one thing that helps me is to say, "I bind those evil spirits in the name of Jesus Christ." Since reading some recent material regarding spiritual matters, I have revised this to, "I bind those negative entities now, forevermore, and in the past in the name of Jesus Christ." (they tend to work without regard to our timeline)

Ultimately, what enables one to transcend these "situations" is to develope a thorough understanding and a higher awareness of these matters. Obviously, I'm not quite there yet. I know there are many on this group who are much more spiritually advanced than I am.

Magis Amica Veritas

I would rather control myself, than someone else.

en courage (heart)
in spire (spirit)
en thuse (theos)

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Lemniscate wrote:

I think maybe it's a sort of time loop, like giving somebody a second chance. I've always heard (and believe) that circumstances occur in the spirit realm first, then trickle down to the physical. Since the spirit realm is said to not have linear time, then these circumstances can occur over and over (hence reoccurring dreams...?) giving someone several opportunities to effect a circumstance in the appropriate manner that very well may have a profound effect on them, or the other person. It might be a result of those in the spirit realm knowing that the person or circumstance you are going to realize may never occur again.

Very interesting theory. Something i hadn't thought of before. It really makes sense though. Thanks for responding.

P.S. You're hot!

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over the last week my dreams have been pretty noxious,intense and varied.There is one however that I think I will give a mention to - it was more of a static scene (no movement or action)a beautiful night with quite a striking mountainess terrain  - all natural an stuff - except there were two moons in the sky - one full and the second moon looked kinda like the semi-assembled death star,ala Star Wars.
wierd.

Accoss the divide.

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I hope this thread is still active. I had a dream a few years ago that keeps coming to mind that I believe I need help with. Some of it I can understand, but there are parts that are just too freaky. Any help with the interpretation will be greatly appreciated.

This dream occurred a few months after I broke up with a girlfriend.

The dream is set at the house I grew up in (as usual):

I come home from a long day at work. It's night time, dark outside, and I'm tired. I toss my jacket somewhere to the side, and notice all the dirty dishes sitting on the kitchen sink (the kitchen appears uncharacteristically in the front of the house). I figure I'll do them later since I'm just too tired (can you sense a trend...?).

I look to the rear wall of the kitchen where there is a window which is now the back of the house. I look through the rear window to a neighbor's house behind us. A light has caught my eye. I focus on that light, it appears to be a TV or something. It ends up being a computer monitor that is emitting a beautiful blue glow. I "zoom" in on this, and all of a sudden it is sitting on this long table in a library type room in the middle of the house.

I feel comfortable in this room. More comfortable than in any other room. It is warm and cozy. There are books from floor to ceiling, the computer monitor is sitting on the long table in the middle of the room (this was way before I ever considered getting a computer), and there is a very inviting couch with a large blanket on it at the back of the room to the right, drawing my attention. But as I walk toward the couch, I notice a doorway to the left of the back wall. This is where it starts to get freaky. I'd never heard offstage voices before in my dreams.

I hear these two male voices say, "He won't go through that door." Well me, not being one to turn down a dare (evidently even in a dream), decided to forego the nap for now and see what was in that room.

Well, it wasn't all that intimidating. In fact, upon crossing the threshold I remember thinking, "What's the big deal?" for it was only a dingy laundry room. There was an old chair to the left, and a washer and dryer to the right. It wasn't the nicest of rooms, but what was all the apprehension about?

Suddenly I hear the two male voices again (it's as if they're above me talking to each other), "He definitely won't go through THAT door!" I see this door at the back of the laundry room. I realize I'm at the back of the house, and through that door will be the back yard. Well, I thought, when I went through the first door it wasn't a big deal, so why should this be? Was I wrong...!

I felt apprehension as I approached the door, but I kept thinking, "What's the big deal?" I opened it, and gazed out upon a black void. All my instincts told me to not go out there. But I felt as if I'd be "turning down a dare", and the first time wasn't all that bad, so I stuck my head through the doorway. All of a sudden I felt this pull, something was pulling me into the dark void! I tried pulling back, with my arms braced on the door jam, but the pull was too strong! Just as suddenly I felt this entity of light behind me pull me back. I don't know if it was my higher self, the Holy Spirit, or exactly what, but I knew that divine intervention was required in order for me to get back in the room to safety.

I quickly walked into the library room where I felt warm and safe. I was really tired by now, and gladly plopped down on the couch and started to take a nap. As I closed my eyes I noticed a small chest (a dream pun...?) next to the couch. It was encrusted with jewels and gilded with gold. I knew this belonged to my former girlfriend, and was curious as to what was inside. It was if a voice inside my head said, "You have the key." I looked down at my chest and saw a small, flat "key card" that I knew fit the lock on the chest (yet this was way before I even knew what a "key card" was...!).

I figured I could lean up, insert the key card, open the chest and look inside before my girlfriend ever got home (even though we never lived together in real life), but it was risky. If she came in and caught me with her chest open, she would never trust me again, and I didn't want that to happen. Well, I risked it, and quickly but apprehensively opened the chest. All I saw at first was an empty darkness, but I didn't have a chance to look further insided because the front door opened (I knew it was my girlfriend). I started panicking, and figured I had two choices: I could either take the time to close the lid to the chest, lock it and remove the key, risking her finding me trying to look inside her personal chest, or just let the lid fall, leaving the key in it, and quickly lie back down and cover myself up and act as if nothing happened.

I chose the second one, and as I lay there pretending to sleep, she made her way to the doorway. As she stood in the doorway, she uttered a sigh of relief. Evidently she had been out shopping (very characteristic), searching for me for some time, and thought she wasn't going to find me again. When she saw me on the couch, she was so glad to see me, and to have finally found me.

That's where it ends.

Magis Amica Veritas

I would rather control myself, than someone else.

en courage (heart)
in spire (spirit)
en thuse (theos)

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What I see is old programming running and also possibly some incursion into your consciousness  of alternate timeline potentials. Humans who have been incarnate in the Earth life system when it went thru former major cataclysms are imprinted on cellular, microcosmic, and DNA levels with fear that is being drawn back out from the subconscious realms in these times we are currently facing.
Much of what is being done out of sight of the masses parallels the stupidity and folly engaged in by Atlantean scientists who were seeking to gain absolute control over certain forces of nature.
Unfortunately most of the western way of living has been influenced by the anti-life forces which has set up a negative chain of events in the realms of cause and effect that relate to mankind and nature. There are even greater mysteries than we can know contained in the potentials of these coming times. The fact that we seemingly don't have large numbers of the populace who have gone into realization will not hold those who have back, so what I advise is identifying and replacing old programs or those that reflect a negative timeline. All of the forces that work most effectively of man are active on the mental plane and they work by setting him onto pathways of thinking and building of thoughtforms that are negative and designed to precipitate those realities into physical plane manifestation. One of the most cunning untruths posited thru all the ages is that any thought entering into a mans mind is necessarily his own.....which of course a total lie.
Alot of the subterfuge runs on denial which is the signature of the Asuras. Freud identified a force he called thanatos and about this he was correct because it is and archetypal force within the space time field of Earth and as thus runs within the consciousness or subconsciousness of mankind. The big scam is the total denial of the existence of extradimensional archetypal forces and the way they seek entrance into the consciousness domains of man.
Here is one reprogramming exercise:
All sage people on the path know that the ego has to be brought under control of the higher self or it destroys everything in its gaze. Its nature was not to be the one totally in charge, but in our time this became the case.
By force of will and intent we are on course to free all of the nature kingdoms.
In freeing the natural world which many have already sensed is part of the great way, we will free ourselves. The planet will enter a void and as the nature kingdoms are freed, none of the old technologies will function as the change approaches. This will end the worship of machines which are in effect a virus and a product of infected memes.
There will be a total restructure of this reality system based on different thoughtforms and souls not in accord will have the choice to end up on another timeline. The totality of the Earth exerience will have been worth it. Many will move on to another evolution.
This is yet another angle on the Organian Peace treaty and my best effort today at something that serves the whole. I'm sure it will evolve.

Peace

StarCat

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A very powerful dream last night.

It begins in my hometown, where I left 8 years ago. The city is near sea, a typical Mediterrean city. I'm there at night on main square of the city. A very big lunapark is there and I'm on a vehicle like the ones people visit Hollywood studios. I see the sea and get shocked because some giant waves are preparing to hit the coast. The vehicle is on a loop, but I want to get off before it turns to the seaside again, because the waves will be on the shore soon. Then I realize something, I'm kind of in War of the Worlds story and the tripods will be in the city very soon. I look at the sky and see some lights are coming closer to us, I know these are the tripods. Nobody is aware of anything, neither giant waves, nor the tripod danger and everybody is on their routine business. I do not try to tell them anything, I only say to my wife, who's near me, let's get out of here as fast as we can...

... there are more detailed stories there, but at the end of the dream I wake up in my bad, see my wife sleeping near me and understand that this is a dream. But something is wrong, I can't move a single muscle, I even can't keep my eyes open - just like mindovermatter wrote above. Then I see my wife wake up, sit in the bed and see her hands are like Freddy Kruger of Nightmare on Elm Street. Then she flies to the other side of the room - this scene is so absurd that I understand I didnot wake up yet. I realize some evil being looks like my wife. I think of NR and the abduction experiences I read here.

I try to wake up - and the most interesting thing happens. A voice begins to talk inside my head. I hear "astral plane is invaded by these beings and it's just a matter of second for them to invade physical plane too - if they want to. So all human beings struggle in their meaningless daily life without knowing the great danger they're in". I wonder if these are lizzies or not. The voice continues "but there are things that can be made". I ask "what kind of things" then wake up completely. The answer to my last question whispers in my head "self-discipline".

The whole day the powerful thought of "meaningless & unaware daily life vs the astral reality" was in my head. Well, as in everything there are two polarised explanations for this;

a) My mind/subconscious plays games as I'm deeply interested in these subjects,
b) Something has activated inside and began to give information.

I will not dismiss either probabilities and keep on observing..

Change we must, to live again
- Jon Anderson

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I had a dream that I was in a university, and I went to use the toilet.  So I walked in the bathroom and all the toilets were unusable, they had stuff like large wads of hair and dead rats floating around in them.  I complained, but no one really listened to me.  I told them they should tear down the whole building, since it looked like a 1960's flashback, but icky because it hadn't been taken care of, just like my high school.    People blew me off, and I asked if there was another bathroom I could use, and someone gave me directions to a decent one.  I remember sometime in the dream looking to one side and seeing a gaping hole in wall, with huge pipes going everywhere.

265 (edited by Auendove 2006-04-30 11:44:17)

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Ahem...got a 'lil poetic bug up my bum this morning big_smile .

Dream Recall Blues

Rinsed through by the night's clandestine magic
I awaken aface a gossamer memory of you.

A beckoning ghost of a presage,
I remember the soft yellow air...
your pale blue shirt... and swirling,
the purlieu itself like a sweeping waltz.

How many times now have I awoken,
bare with this memory?
Not recalling your face,
the mysterious dance defying focus.

Do I know you? You me?
Or are we just a dream?

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

lol

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Auendove wrote:

How many times now have I awoken,
bare with this memory?
Not recalling your face,
the mysterious dance defying focus.

Do I know you? You me?
Or are we just a dream?

[!!!]  smile  Nice poem.

I am as is Void.

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I had a dream I believe Tuesday morning. Pres Bush was doing a commercial for a new arthritis drug. I had this sense that it would actually make the condition worse, but he was pandering it to be the best one ever. After he was done doing the commercial, he turns toward me and tries to "give" the drug to me. At first I feel a sense of submissiveness, but soon my REAL self kicks in and says HE** NO! This ain't gonna happen! I don't have to take this! So I use my force of intent and push him far away. I felt very free after that.

Now what's weird is that this was soon after I had commenced the Borax experiment (it's supposed to thwart arthritis). And Monday evening was when I fell down the stairs. It's like "they" didn't want me to mess around with this stuff. Obviously I promptly started taking the Borax after the fall. And, like I said, it significantly lessened the effects of the fall. I just think that there needs to be a cofactor taken with it, otherwise side effects can ensue.

Magis Amica Veritas

I would rather control myself, than someone else.

en courage (heart)
in spire (spirit)
en thuse (theos)

268 (edited by pocketable-L 2006-05-12 23:31:50)

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I had a dream last night where a truck with glycerine drove very fast into our street and crashed into the house/ houses. I know glycerine is in soap, so maybe it meant like we need to get washed. That would be washed from ina spiritual sense. I remember when the glycerine was free "in the air" (after the crash) something happened with us/me perceptionwise and my face was melting. What's for sure was that i wasn't washed from the outside when i woke up, so up to the shower then !

"I've had a traumatic youth.
My father drank.


And my mother ate."                                       

Kama

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I think Glycerine is also an explosive, the same explosive the German dude in Die Hard 3 uses. I can't say any more than that.

Could someone please take a shot at this one, I don't have many interesting dreams so this was extra strange.

Firstly I was being spoken to telepathically by an entity who called himself ('it' sounded male) the 'Master of the Archons'. I don't remember anything more than that or what 'it' wanted from me,  but 'it' didn't sound benelovent at all, more like the emperor in Star Wars.

And later I went into a pub with some old friends from school and while I was there went to the restroom, and while looking in the mirror I saw two of me.  My 'double' was seen in the mirror as if he was standing right behind me and slightly to my right. Once I started to look in the mirror I felt an outside force trying to suck me into the mirror annd join me and my double together (I think, I didn't know what was happening)

"Violence solves everything. If it's not solving your problems, you aren't using enough of it."

270 (edited by Natural Mystic 2006-05-15 08:58:01)

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I've had some very intresting dreams this past new moon. 

During the night of the full moon, when I was in the stage before sleep but not quite asleep yet I had two experiences.  I was listening to some audio files of Alan Watts, so when I was falling asleep his words started to "shapeshift" and I heard some one speak to me, and I heard "I am the watchmen, I have come to watch over you so you never have to be alone."  And meanwhile I was in some sort of half awake, half asleep landscape sitting in a chair experiencing a spiriling sensation all throughout my being.  It was quite intense and a little bit scary, but I held on because I thought what I was experiencing was important.  But after that thought I pulled myself out of that state.

Then again, while falling asleep I heard the flapping of wings right over my body like it was a bird flying away.

And then the dreams where one of them it was my birthday and outside in the sky all these colors were shooting out everywhere in circular, spiriling 3-Dimensional patterns.  It was amazing.

And then it was Christmas in another dream and I saw a Christmas tree outside my bedroom door.

So I am wondering if anyone knows anything about references to a "Watchman/Watchmen" or if it was some negative entity trying to pull something off.  Thanks.

Mahatma wrote:

Could someone please take a shot at this one, I don't have many interesting dreams so this was extra strange.

Firstly I was being spoken to telepathically by an entity who called himself ('it' sounded male) the 'Master of the Archons'. I don't remember anything more than that or what 'it' wanted from me,  but 'it' didn't sound benelovent at all, more like the emperor in Star Wars.

And later I went into a pub with some old friends from school and while I was there went to the restroom, and while looking in the mirror I saw two of me.  My 'double' was seen in the mirror as if he was standing right behind me and slightly to my right. Once I started to look in the mirror I felt an outside force trying to suck me into the mirror annd join me and my double together (I think, I didn't know what was happening)

I'll give it a thought.  This is what popped into my head while reading this.

If you read my post above I just had someone speak to me in my dream also... intresting.  Anyway, If "It" didn't sound friendly, maybe it could be a STS entity... although maybe looking into Archons would give you more insight, my knowledge on the subject isn't that deep.

Seeing two of yourselves in the mirror could represent your "ego" self perhaps.. or your "spirit" self although I would think the spirit self wouldn't manifest itself in "physical" form.  Maybe what was happening in your dream (and relfected in your life) is that you are integrating your ego "into" your real self and/or disempowing your ego so it has no real "control" over you and you're emotiions.  Although I don't know what the outside force could be, and why you were being sucked into the mirror.  The mirror itself could represent reflection/ self reflection or even a look into another dimension/reality.

That would be my interpretation of it. smile

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun