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Topic: How to make an orgone generator.

I have some "metal shavings" that I got from an Automotive brake place(they are extremely small, and quite oily).

I have copper wire.

I need quartz crystals(a reputable link would be nice)

and I'm in the process of getting fiberglass resin from somewhere today.

I have a few questions I'd like to ask, they being:

Will my metal shavings work(they being damn near microscopic, and dirty), and will aluminum foil work well as a replacement?

How big  are the generators supposed to be, and will size contribute to the generator's power? I've seen some rather small looking ones from womenwarriors.net and somesuch...

Re: How to make an orgone generator.

Stay away from the oily microscopic metal shavings. The resin will have a tough time getting around it.

If you make your way to a local machine shop, Im quite sure you could get a pail of stainless shavings for nothing. They sweep up piles of it at the end of every day.

Aluminum foil does infact work but the s.s is the best bet. Also copper B.Bs are a nice touch to round out the energy.

As far as size goes and unless this is a personal device, a necklace for example, its a 3oz min.

Make a trip to walmart and buy some teflon coated muffin tins and use them as moulds. Its about the best.


good luck!

Re: How to make an orgone generator.

GrapeCaoDizzle wrote:

Will my metal shavings work(they being damn near microscopic, and dirty), and will aluminum foil work well as a replacement?

You can cut Chore Boy stainless steel or pure copper scrubbers into little pieces. Looks and functions like machine shop shavings.

GrapeCaoDizzle wrote:

How big  are the generators supposed to be, and will size contribute to the generator's power? I've seen some rather small looking ones from womenwarriors.net and somesuch...

Holy Hand Grenades are usually made with plastic funnels. Pick your size, any size. Six inch funnel works fine. Plug the bottom with wax, putty, aluminum foil, whatever makes a good seal. Paper funnels will stick to the resin, so avoid those. Plastic releases better. As infinity_+_1 said, muffin tins work for smaller hockey-puck devices...that may be easiest of all.

Here I used a pure copper scrubber cut up into half centimeter pieces, inside a plastic funnel:

http://montalk.net/pics/fountain1.jpg

That's from an orgonite water fountain I made. With resin poured:

http://montalk.net/pics/fountain3.jpg

Out of its mold: http://montalk.net/pics/fountain5.jpg

In operation: http://montalk.net/pics/fountain.mov

Diagram: http://montalk.net/pics/orgonefountaindiagram.jpg

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Re: How to make an orgone generator.

Thanks for the relies. I'll try these methods later.

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Re: How to make an orgone generator.

Some of the best and clearest crystals you'll find in North America are at the Ron Coleman mine in Hot Springs Arkansas (the only other place that I know of that has this clear of a variety is in Brazil). You can purchase them online here http://www.colemanquartz.com/ , but it's much more fun (and productive) to actually go there and do it yourself (about $20 a day, you keep ALL that you mine). They have camping (included with the price) with showers and a Laundromat.

Montalk, I noticed that you used a triangular configuration with your crystals, instead of the "traditional" cross formation. Is there a reason for this? Is it more "potent"? I've noticed that I instinctively came to this triangular configuration regarding the magnets around my water jug, and the water has improved considerably (maybe H2O doesn't like bucking magnetic flux, but prefers spiralling flux...).

Also, I noticed that there is some printing on your copper pipe. I've read from a couple sources that this can have a potentially negative effect on the generated orgone. If it is only printed on, you can remove it via acetone (fingernail polish remover) or MEK (methyl-ethyl-ketone). If it is engraved, then sandpaper will do the trick.

Thanks for the tip regarding the copper scrubbers. I'll have to get some (just hope the D_E-A doesn't think it's for something else . . . )

What if you were to cut diagonal slits in the copper pipe (with a Dremel tool or hack saw)? That way the water would be incited to spiral down the tube and hence the generator. Another technique would be to "twist" the copper pipe. You could achieve this by drilling a hole all the way through one end, and threading a strong rod through it. Clamp the other end tightly in a vice (don't be concerned about crimping, this can be cut off later).
Another way would be to utilize a hammer and chisel to create a diagonal "dimple" beneath the water output hole.

Yet another technique (probably the simplest and most effective) would be to take two large gauge copper wires and twist longitudinally around the copper pipe. These wires could be made to flare at the point at which they meet the orgone generator to make for a smooth transition. You might even make a nice spiral design above the top of the pipe with the extra wire. In addition to increasing aesthetics, you may even improve the effect.

BTW, what are the two thin copper tubes stuck in the bowl for? Is that in case you and your woman want to imbibe with daiquiris or something . . . ?

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Re: How to make an orgone generator.

Lemniscate wrote:

Montalk, I noticed that you used a triangular configuration with your crystals, instead of the "traditional" cross formation. Is there a reason for this?

It was the most symmetric configuration since the center was occupied by the pipe and crossing the crystals would have required them be crossing up the center. Also, I only had three crystals on hand, so a triangle was the most reasonable arrangement.

Lemniscate wrote:

Also, I noticed that there is some printing on your copper pipe.

I only see printing on the clear plastic tube that fits on to the pipe, but thanks for the tip on using acetone. Not certain engraved letters on a pipe would have negative effect. The mechanical engraving of product numbers is not exactly an occult sigil. I would figure the energy of the person making it would have a greater effect on the final product. Resin and metal in itself is what accumulates and generates orgone though, and symbols would at most affect the quality but not the quantity of orgone produced. That's my guess.

Lemniscate wrote:

What if you were to cut diagonal slits in the copper pipe (with a Dremel tool or hack saw)? That way the water would be incited to spiral down the tube and hence the generator.

I was hoping for sheets of water to come out in a spiral staircase sort of way, but the pressure needed to make it a sheet also overshot the stream beyond the bowl's edge. Reducing the water flow simply made it flow down the sides in an unexciting way. Oh well.

Lemniscate wrote:

Another technique would be to "twist" the copper pipe.

Good idea... I thought about putting some Schauberger-style fins inside the pipe, but it was too difficult getting in the narrow opening to solder it on. The fins would have spun the water as it flows through the pipe. Actually my original goal was to have a funnel in a bowl accepting water from a pump to form a perpetual vortex. But getting the funnel shape correct was more difficult than I expected. Tried making it out of bakeable modeling clay, but that failed. Standard plastic funnel was too narrow for the flow. Shellack covered cardboard funnel didn't stay waterproof. Tall cylindrical clear glass cup may have worked, but drilling glass isn't straightforward. Oh well, haha.


Lemniscate wrote:

In addition to increasing aesthetics, you may even improve the effect.

Only way to know is to try it out. Considering that one works blindly unless one has full etheric or auric vision, I find it difficult to separate wishful thinking from systematic innovation when it comes to improving these devices. In other words, how much of the orgonite device mods are the products of fantasy confirmed subjectively? My belief in these devices is still up in the air.

Lemniscate wrote:

BTW, what are the two thin copper tubes stuck in the bowl for? Is that in case you and your woman want to imbibe with daiquiris or something . . . ?

Orgone daiquiris... mmmm.  Actually those are DORbuster tubes. DOR = Deadly ORgone. This water fountain was a hybrid between the theories of Reich and Croft. Reich used metal pipes immersed in running water to bust clouds, while Croft uses metal pipes cast in the metal resin matrix with quartz crystals. The problem with water cloudbusters is that recycled water loses its potency, or alternately it becomes saturated with orgone and the pipes no longer do their job. Orgonite solves that problem by never saturating. So by running water through orgonite it should never saturate.

Water powered stuff is more potent than orgonite, that much I can confirm. It's so powerful that standing in front of a water-powered cloudbuster will harm you because it's so intense. So by combining both, I have a fountain that does something if only because it uses water. The thin pipes are inserted into the bowl, loosely arranged, to draw in stale orgone from the immediate vicinity.

The effects were more far ranging and powerful than I anticipated. So far it seems the DORbuster tubes depleted the entire room of orgone, which made for increased fatigue. I'm not using them anymore. Leaving it outside to run overnight did funny things to the weather, so I've withheld running it until I set up some protocol to make sure it's not permanently detrimental to the skies.

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Re: How to make an orgone generator.

To make an "old school" orgone pad, follow these instructions:

http://www.gocs1.com/gocs1/Psionics/ORGONE-BLANKET.htm

Its energy field feels like a slight warm tingle.

Putting one on each side of a metal box turns that box into a traditional orgone accumulator (ORAC). Water, food, seeds, etc... can be placed inside to charge up. Reich built ones large enough to sit in, which he used for therapeutic purposes.

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Re: How to make an orgone generator.

I'm familiar with DOR and the related "pipe in water technology". I've read literature by Trevor James Constable and others (tried the "Visualization Technique", REALLY freaky!), just thought that it was on a more macroscopic scale, and involved ocean/salt water, not fresh. Hey, what if you were to add some Celtic sea salt to your fountain? I did that in my crystal fountain and it seemed to clear things up etherically. I wondered why a combination of moving water and crystals would have had even the slightest of a negative emanation, then realized where it was manufactured. Even the most seemingly innocuous devices can hold negativity, evidently.

When you replied regarding your two copper tubes, I kept picturing them in a spiral formation, so I ran downstairs to grab some thin copper tubing. I cut it to the length of a Royal Egyptian Cubit, spiraled it around a 1 inch dowel, and placed it part way in my crystal fountain. Funny thing, ever since I cleared my crystal fountain with the salt (not too much, my kitty drinks from it...fortunately the Celtic salt is potent), it has seemed to have a "higher sentience". When I walked toward it after cutting the copper tubing (it was still straight at this point), the crystal fountain resisted it, so I never even attempted to try it that way. But after I spiralled the copper tubing, the crystal fountain accepted it.

It did seem to clear the immediate environment, but I see/feel what you were saying about the "draining". It may be analogous to a blender that has pureed all it can puree. Then it just gets loud and starts to overheat. But I do sense a type of "spiraling/pulsing" which comes and goes every few minutes, as if this new setup is "doing something". The "draining" was barely perceptible, and seemed to have decreased. Weird feeling now, almost like a structured energy. It's kind of like the new fountain setup is matching resonance with the outdoor environment. In fact, it feels like I'm outside. It also has the feeling of when I first tried my pyramid water.

The spiraling/pulsing is getting less intense, but more frequent. It appears that this new combination is setting up a "vortex". . . Oh, odd, I think I get it. This is the only place on the net where I feel comfortable saying this . . .

After I placed the spiral tube in the crystal fountain, I sat down, and looked at it. Right when I looked at it, it said, "I'm doing my job, are you doing yours?" This kept running through my head, and I didn't know what it meant, until I felt the large vortex forming in the middle of the room, emanating from my position. Evidently I was "instrumental" in this new setup. How neat! Human Beings are cool! Orgone experiments are wild!

My head is actually moving in rhythm to this vortex. It would spin clockwise, build up momentum, slow down, then reverse to counterclockwise, then repeat. It finally ended up going clockwise. The visions were extroardinary, spirals of all sizes, most moving clockwise. The vortex itself appeared to spiral straight up, and pierce a hole in the "ceiling of the world" (aka, the sky?), and attempt to widen it, as in a "breakthrough". This happened twice (so far). Hmmmmm . . . maybe that was the "matrix" . . .

I just realized that I'm INSIDE a vortex! How cool! And I still feel like I'm outdoors!

I was just "told" by the fountain to make another spiral tube, wide enough to fit around the crystal base which supports the spinning crystal sphere. I'll let you know what happens . . .

(boy, this post took a long time to write...)

Thanks for the inspiration!

Magis Amica Veritas

I would rather control myself, than someone else.

en courage (heart)
in spire (spirit)
en thuse (theos)

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Re: How to make an orgone generator.

Here's a nice website with lot's of great tips and instructions when it comes to putting orgonite together:

http://www.orgonite.info/

Re: How to make an orgone generator.

Going off of Montalk's idea, I made a fountain out of one my mini-cloudbusters. The pump is attached to the center pipe, which is about 8 inches in orgonite and 18 inches above. The surrounding pipes are the same length but have 45 degree joints halfway up. I'll try to get a photo. I'm getting some great vibes off this thing. I haven't seen any weather changes (we don't have any weather here in the desert anyway) or experienced any side effects. I think I'll build a few more.

Re: How to make an orgone generator.

Here is a link to another way of looking at and creating orgone generators - it resonated well with me. I built various cloudbusters and orgone generators Don Croft style starting back in 2002 -

Zsuzsi

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/greywolf … ar06.shtml