Ah....the old "Blame the person under psychic attack for experiencing psychic attack" scenario.....:)
Respectfully, PleidianHealer, that is my interpretation of what you have just mentioned. You see, the biggest players in the orgone movement who are putting out Luciferian-oriented devices love to blame the recipient for the bad effects they experience. They are going through a "detox" process. They have "stuff" to clear. In short, "it's their fault."
There is a difference between a clearing process, which can be intense but is a positive process that the body resonates well with and can handle, and being bludgeoned over the head by negs on both the physical and astral planes. I've been through both and know the difference. So do the hundreds of brilliant healers within the extensive network of folks I swap "war stories" with.
Respectfully, I submit to you again, that psychic attack is exactly what many, many people have experienced in response to wearing Carol Croft's harmonic protectors, Don Bradley aka CBSworks' pieces, and creations made by many other major players in the movement.
I have some zappers made by Don Croft, however, that I have personally found very helpful and positively aligned. I have never personally worn or owned anything made by Carol, but many of my healer friends have and have experienced the negative effects I hinted at in my prior post.
There are huge networks of underground orgone folks who have been comparing detailed notes on this orgone stuff, tracking it all, and learning as they go, and we've been studying these things for years now. Let's put it this way. We've assembled a LOT of information. I'm not even revealing the half of it here. You wouldn't believe what is going on. A lot of it is a revisitaton of old sorceror's wars that the same players were involved with in Atlantis, which eventually led to the destruction of that civilization. They used tools constructed of a combination of crystaline and non-organic materials very much like the orgone devices of today. Again, the overreliance upon technology, which can be turned toward the Luciferian/world of the ghouls in the wrong hands.
When I buried a copper piece that Don Croft's brother-in-law created on the property, I was awakened in the middle of the night by THE DEVAS SCREAMING. All of nature in the area was in excruciating pain from the disharmonious vibrations it was putting out. I had become blinded to the energy because Don's sister had attempted to befriend me, and since this lady was the sister of Don, a man I respected for his sincerity shown in his posts at Educate-Yourself and elsewhere, I was a little in awe of her and was giving her the benefit of the doubt.
At the time, too, I hadn't yet learned about how orgone devices can be negatively oriented, and I didn't understand. I was still thinking of them as "neutral" devices, not magical tools constructed with living, sentient beings (crystals.) And I should have known better. A well-intentioned person can still create very dangerous orgone devices. If they're tired, angry, or depressed, dark energies can enter into the piece and become attached to the crystals and minerals.
So you might have a positive intuitive "read" on the person, thinking they are good, and you can still find that devices you've received from them are Luciferian in alignment. Usually, the orgone maker doesn't know about it. But some know exactly what they are doing.
I and a circle of power healers from many regions had to work long and hard to counteract the effects of having this copper thing buried in the ground for less than 24 hours. As I said, it took months.
So - would your interpretation of the situation be - "The devas weren't screaming in mortal agony. The rocks weren't disturbed. The animals weren't in pain. You had those astral attacks ( I experienced a ton of those as part of this) were part of YOUR clearing process, Jennifer?"
And also the second piece of that interpretation would have to be "And all the brilliant shamanic healers you consulted, some of whom contacted YOU out of the blue to say that they had noticed something terrible was going on, commenting that there was massive disturbance of the devas, didn't happen." Because many others were involved with this process of observation and helped out with what needed to be fixed. It wasn't all something happening just with Jennifer. It was a large, regional disturbance of ley lines.
I would also respectfully submit, just as I have in the prior threads I have contributed to about Reiki, that experiencing "Much stimulation in the upper chakras" as you describe or "Sweating at night" as you also describe as your own reaction to Carol's harmonic protectors might be interpreted in a different way as well. I see these as part of the same negative reactions that Reiki treatments can cause in people....namely, their chakras and energy field get over-energized, they feel sweaty and weird, and this energy state can serve as an entry point for all manner of negs to later take hold of that person's auric field as permanent entity attachments.
Because in my work I've discovered that that's usually what happens in phase two - after the period of overheating, overenergizing, and allowing that to continue for a while - if you don't negate these energy effects. The negs come in for a feast while your system is out of whack.
This process can happen after many people receive Reiki treatments, it can happen in the presence of negatively oriented orgone devices, and it can happen when other (sometimes well-intentioned) folks blast others with energy. This same progression I've seen, over and over ad nauseum, witnessed by myself too many times to count and related by other healers who are on the alert about this stuff.....overheating, overenergizing, sweating and feeling weird is step one; step two is getting you used to some new energies that the ego will try to identify as a "healing or detox" process, when, if you admit it to yourself, it's making you feel WEIRD, not good....step three is the arrival of entity attachments. Then you're in deep doo-doo.
The three steps I'm describing are how psychic attack works. Orgone by itself and Carol's harmonic protectors can be one way that this occurs. If you are in alignment with the energies Carol works with, you won't feel bad, you'll feel good. And I don't mean to automatically say Carol's a bad person, because I have never met her, but I do know that she is Wiccan and is someone who conjures up beings whom she believes to be powerful guides and spiritual helpers. There are many lovely folks practicing this ancient nature religion, but there are also a lot of bad games and negative entities circulating amongst Wiccans. So it has become a very polluted energy pool for the most part.
And some of us are NOT in alignment with Carol's spiritual posse. And for people who aren't, they will experience wearing her magically constructed devices in a negative way.
And that is NOT due to a clearing process. Our energy systems are experiencing them as psychic attack. When the entities, intentions, and energies aligned with a magically constructed device are not in alignment with the recipient, this will be felt as psychic attack to varying degrees. It doesn't matter whether the device in question is a crystal, a piece of jewelry, a piece of clothing, or an orgone device. There will be a brief "melee" during which the entities attached to the thing make a bid for you, and you have two choices. Fend them off or submit. That's how psychic attack and the infestation of negative entities works.
So before accepting or purchasing an orgone device or any other magical tool from someone, you need to really get to know the maker and be 100% sure that the two of you are in alignment. Compare spiritual posses. Who is that person conjuring, invoking, etc? Are those entities aligned with your circle of spiritual helpers? If not, you'll experience disharmony when you receive their device, because those energies will be attached to the orgone creation.
The orgone devices I possess, I will freely and openly admit, were made by people who honor Jesus as a great teacher and healer and have invoked Christ energy as they created the pieces. So this energy is comfortable to me.
However, I will point out that I bought some devices last year from a woman who posts about how she is a spiritual warrior and a devout Christian all over the Net and writes many useful and wonderful things about spiritual protection and spiritual warriorship, and her devices were awful. Again, they made the devas cry. Again, they gave me very bad energy effects for the brief time period that they were in my possession. So in that case I thought that this woman's spiritual posse and mine were aligned, but something went horribly wrong as she constructed the devices.
To be honest, when I received the devices, I perceived her anger all over them. She had made them in a hurry, I think, and was resentful about the imposition on her time and furious that she wasn't making more money for them. So that energy was sitting all over what should have been very sacred and healing tools. She had brought her own energy pollution into the devices.
So I guess it all comes down to - don't make orgone when you're in a pissy mood! Any sacred work should be done in a place of love and peace, not in a vibration of anger. Otherwise, you're just passing that crud along to those who would receive your device.
Thanks, PleiadianHealer, for providing a contrasting view to mine. It's important for people to see the paradox of these things....that two opposites can be simultaneously true. All of metaphysical learning seems to involve paradox, doesn't it? And in the end it comes down to doing what you personally resonate with, and honoring that someone else may not be in resonance with the same things you are. That's what makes things so interesting!
LipstickMystic aka Jennifer
We are ALL energy beings who have an innate, primal reaction throughout our nervous systems when something "bad" or "unsafe" is in our environment. Trust your fear. Trust that yucky feeling you get in your gut. Trust that if you have sudden, violent, abusive nightmares (when everything had been fine before that) that something with "BAD NEWS" written all over it has recently entered your environment. Try to backtrack, see who you've been hanging with, what you've been doing, and what you've brought into your living space so you can figure out the source of the problem. Retrace your steps until you find the culprit or the likely point of entry, then take steps to mitigate it.
ha but the piece came out perfect! What do you think about these, LipstickMystic?