1 (edited by tenetnosce 2006-02-26 20:09:02)

Topic: Self-disgust and other observations.

Lately I have been noticing some patterns develop within myself, and I would like to offer up my observations here for feedback.

The primary thing that I have observed is a growing sense of disgust with the world around me, and within myself.  I am not sure if it is just a result of my paying more attention to the phenomenon, or if something larger is occurring here, but I just can't seem to get over the increasing amount of ego-mania and insanity that I observe in the world.

On the external side of things, I just see more and more people who are not just totally into themselves, but boisterously and outrageously so.  People who speak and act as if they are the only person in the world of any value, and that everybody else exists to cater to their every whim and fancy.  People who snicker and cajole at the least bit of mention of any worldview or belief that is contradictory to their own.  People who couldn't give a rat's hiney beyond anything that lies outside their own sphere of melodrama, except perhaps to discuss who they think the next American Idol will be, or how many gold medals U.S. athletes have collected in the Olympics, and how they haven't lived up to their expectations.

But what I observe internally is even more concerning to me.  I see these same attitudes popping up inside myself in subtle ways.  I'm not sure if I'm on the verge of a major breakthrough, and it's my ego taking a last stand, or if I am seriously slipping in my own spiritual development.

I find myself caring less and less about other people and what is going on in their lives.  I used to take pleasure in being of service to others, with or without recognition.  But lately I get these waves of attitude where I just don't give a s***.  I'm tired of offering up kind words or a bit of wisdom or even a smile to those who appear to be having a bad day.  I am sickened by the amount of love I have given to those who are close to me only to have them turn around and smack me in the face before walking out of my life without even a wayward glance back in my direction. 

I've wandered around this planet (in this body) for almost thirty years, and all I really have to show for it is a handful of friends that I can really count on to be there and support me when I really need it.  Everybody else only hangs around as long as it's convenient.  And at this point, I feel like I could pretty much forget about a partner who would be willing to make any sort of committment to me and my well-being.

I used to be a lot clearer about myself.  I used to be less judgmental and more faithful.  I used to have more psychic and healing abilities.  I used to feel guided and protected in my life here on this planet.

Now all I feel is this overwhelming desire to leave.  Now I feel that, at every turn, something is waiting for me to make the slightest mistake; that all the light I have brought into the world could be negated by a small lapse in discretion.  That a little indulgence in the desire for physical contact could result in a life-threatening disease, or a momentary lapse in awareness while driving could leave me paralyzed for life. 

I'm tired.  I'm tired of worrying about every little thing I put into my body, or every little word that comes out of my mouth.  I'm tired of being concerned if I, or anybody else, is going to "make it".  I'm tired of wondering what the hell, if anything, I am supposed to do here with my life.

I dunno.  Part of it I'm sure is that I know that I'm not where I need to be, physically, and I am in the process of moving to a place where I feel more at home.  But part of me wonders when I get there, will it really be any different?  I mean, I'm bringing myself, right?

Is anybody else going through a similar process now, or has in the past??  I really could use some support here.

OK, I'm done whining now.  Thanks for your attention.

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.

2 (edited by lyra 2006-02-26 20:30:19)

Re: Self-disgust and other observations.

tenetnosce wrote:

The primary thing that I have observed is a growing sense of disgust with the world around me, and within myself.  I am not sure if it is just a result of my paying more attention to the phenomenon, or if something larger is occurring here, but I just can't seem to get over the increasing amount of ego-mania and insanity that I observe in the world.

The trick is to just detach.  Or try to.  Just observe everybody and everything with neutrality, and not have an emotional investment in what's going on around you.  I think that's at the crux of your entire situation, based on everything you noted.  You have an emotional investment in things....but not everything is worthy of that emotional investment.    Only few things are actually important in this life, and problems arise when we give our energy, attention, and emotional investment into things that are not worth it.  We become a bit "spread thin" you could say, then we start experiencing the repercussions.  Energy drain, negative feelings, disgust, annoyance, bitterness, resentment, etc. etc. blah blah blah.   People disappoint us - because we were emotionally tied up in them.   Situations disgust us - because we expected more.  We get fed up with the world - because we were all emotionally wrapped up in it in the first place.   And then we get all alarmed by these newfound reactions of disappointment, disgust, being angry and fed up, because we've never felt that way before.   Well, you're feeling it now dude....and it's a good thing.  It's a message.  Something's telling you...Detach!  smile   Thank god for those "negative" reactions, huh?  wink   Truly.   It's our message system, letting us know when change is in the air.

Have no expectations.  Expect nothing.  Find joy in the small things.  It's the one thing I got out of the Stuart Wilde material that helped me the most.  When you're detached, and you don't expect anything, then things - and people - can't let you down or upset you.   You just shrug, and continue on your merry way.   

You noted too that you only have a few good friends - be thankful for that.  "......and all I really have to show for it is a handful of friends that I can really count on to be there and support me when I really need it.  Everybody else only hangs around as long as it's convenient.  And at this point, I feel like I could pretty much forget about a partner who would be willing to make any sort of committment to me and my well-being."   

"All" you have to show for it??  Ha!  How about...looking at it from the optimistic, "glass is half full" mindset - Hey!  I have a couple of friends in this world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  YEEHAWWW!!!!!!!!!   big_smile   Seriously.   Because if you have a couple of good friends in this world that you can rely on who are solid, and are there for you, then you're doing better than most people.   It's not something to be pessimistic about, it's something to relish.   The other part of the equation in all of this is to try to learn to focus on what is right and beautiful in any situation.........not what is supposedly "wrong" and "ugly."  !!!  Retrain yourself.   Everytime you find yourself pessimistically grumping about what is wrong, wrong, wrong, stop.........and make yourself see what is right.   And do this over and over.   You are literally re-wiring your brain for how you perceive the world.

Your comment about "I could pretty much forget about a partner who....." blah blah blah BLAH BLAH also really stood out for me.   All I can say is...............if that's what you believe, then that's what you get.   Read "The Biology of Belief" by Dr. Bruce Lipton, it's a great read.  In it, he mentions how he got to a point in his life where he was negative and pessimistic and had totally accepted that he had been given a bum hand in life, and would never find love, and never have this, and never achieve that....etc. etc.  wah waah waaah.   But all that changed once he realized that what you think and believe and perceive is what you will attract to yourself.   We define our lives.   So if you want to be alone, and you believe "Well, I can pretty much forget about EVER finding a partner..." then you know what, that's what your life will be, you know?

That may not be what you were looking to hear, but it's the only thing I thought of as I read your post - detach.  Become a neutral observer.   Re-wire that pessimistic mindset.  It's not the end all be all solution to all your woes, but it's a great starting place.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: Self-disgust and other observations.

My vote goes to,  "you are on the verge of a break through".

I notice I experience a dry period and then I become filled with that beautiful feeling of love.
You know what I'm talking about.
Kind of like a sponge drying and then moistening again but somehow having greater capacity to be filled, each time. The dry periods seemed to be the time when my soul is being molded, tested.

You are right.
The ego does take a stand.     
But I don't think it will be the last.
I love the way you put that, though.

4 (edited by tenetnosce 2006-02-26 20:32:14)

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Lyra,

Actually that helps a great deal. smile

I guess I used to be a lot more detached, and I was a lot happier for it.  C'est la vie! Live and let live, and so on.  But I entered into this stage where it occured to me that perhaps I was too detached, as a protective mechanism so that I didn't have to reveal my own shortcomings and insecurities to others; so that I didn't have to really allow anybody in.

I suppose it's all just a balancing act.  Philosophically I seem to be caught in a polarity.  On the one hand, there is the Zen attitude of expect nothing, and enjoy what you can.  On the other, there is the YCYOR attitude of always expect the best, and accept nothing less.   

In any case, I think I'm going to put packing aside for a bit and go have a beer.  Thanks for your insight.

Oops I see an edit up there. . ok beer is on hold for a moment. . .

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.

Re: Self-disgust and other observations.

A lot of what you said does resonate with my experience in certain ways. 

Lately, I've felt "lost" so to speak.  I've been noticing a lot more my own "dark side" act up, and sometimes I'll have thoughts and then soon after think "Where did that come from?".  I will always make certain health disciplines and soon after break them because some egoist excuse pops into my head.  The most draining part of this process is school.  The work load isn't immense, but it seems so outright boring and mundane that I don't even want do delve into the work; but then that seems like I'm running away from responsibility.  Then I'll realize, I signed up for the program and paid someone to teach me!

Like you said, it may be the ego taking a last stand as sometimes that's what it feels like.

The most inspirational experience that I obverse are my periods of awareness and motivation.  During these times I tend to go a rush of creative drive, new ideas poping into my head, and mass action to acheive the desired goal.

Although this state is becomming higher in energy and longevity, is still goes back to its opposite of confusion and viewing the world exactly how you just meantioned it tenetnosce.

Sometimes I feel guilty for just relaxing, playing games or watching a movie and its a funny feeling.  Why is it like that?  Should I be concerned with achieving spiritual oriented goals?

Right now you might notive I am in my confused stage, although insightful stage. 

To be honest, I am tired of certain things, but I know that I have not yet reached my full potential of awareness.

All in all, after reading your post these thoughts and feelings came up.
Hope all goes well for you! smile

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun

Re: Self-disgust and other observations.

tenetnosce wrote:

Lyra,

Actually that helps a great deal. smile

Glad I could help!   smile




tenetnosce wrote:

Oops I see an edit up there. . ok beer is on hold for a moment. . .

haha yeah, I edited like six or seven times....kept thinking of more and more I could add or comment on.   So there's lots more now than what was originally there.  Funny part is, when I was done and got up from the computer, the clock said 11:33.   There you go.   smile

I hope you pull through, and no, you're not the only one experiencing something like this.  It's all lessons though.  Try not to view it as a negative hindrance.  Instead, see it all as a message.  Life's cool like that, you know?  Up and down, up and down.  Makes the ride more fun!  big_smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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I have a quick suggestion, rather than just giving some advice I would think that crystals would help a bit too.   

I would think all those people out there really waking up would feel and better and also stay more centered if they used amethyst crystals.   I would highly recommend getting your hands on beaded necklace or amethyst.   I know this may sound strange but I've used necklaces like this myself (I'm a guy and wear crystal mala's, prayer beads, that don't look to silly... hahaha).   The main reason I use them if for their energetic effects.   These particular crystals have a very uplifting and healing vibe to them.   You'll notice you feel better as soon as you put them on, not to mention that you'll stay focused more on your higher chakras, which is also another great benefit.

J.P.

Re: Self-disgust and other observations.

PleiadianHealer wrote:

I have a quick suggestion, rather than just giving some advice I would think that crystals would help a bit too.   

I would think all those people out there really waking up would feel and better and also stay more centered if they used amethyst crystals.   I would highly recommend getting your hands on beaded necklace or amethyst.   I know this may sound strange but I've used necklaces like this myself (I'm a guy and wear crystal mala's, prayer beads, that don't look to silly... hahaha).   The main reason I use them if for their energetic effects.   These particular crystals have a very uplifting and healing vibe to them.   You'll notice you feel better as soon as you put them on, not to mention that you'll stay focused more on your higher chakras, which is also another great benefit.

J.P.

Thanks for the suggestion.  I actually have two crystal necklaces, neither of which I wear at the moment.  One is made from a rather large smoky quartz wand which I wrapped clockwise in copper wire and counterclockwise in silver wire, 21 rotations each.  The other is a rutilated quartz star of david pendant.  Do you think either of those would be of value, or does the amethyst have particular attributes?

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.

Re: Self-disgust and other observations.

Hi tenetnosce,

I don't have a suggestion per se, but self-involvement and not really caring about others as much as I thought I should are things I've long struggled with. I'm just now getting to the point where I am making a conscious effort to see the good in people and the world in general. I think it's all in your personal mindset. For me, ruminating on the words and thoughts of people I regard as being great teachers has really helped me. I've been finding a lot of inspiration in reading Lao Tzu lately, for example.

I work in a profession where I have to take crap from people on a daily basis and I'm not able to retaliate in any way. This is maddening and it makes it hard not to just hate people sometimes and let pessimism set in. I just take a deep breath and let it go...just let it go. Maybe I'm naive, but I feel like all I can do is put as much love and peace out there as possible. I think it works and even if not, it makes me feel better and gives me inner serenity. The world is full of shallow, ignorant, rude, mean spirited and materialistic people. I can't change them, alas, but I can change myself.

"A dream has power to poison sleep"
-Percy Bysshe Shelley

10 (edited by tenetnosce 2006-02-26 23:39:09)

Re: Self-disgust and other observations.

lyra wrote:

Your comment about "I could pretty much forget about a partner who....." blah blah blah BLAH BLAH also really stood out for me.   All I can say is...............if that's what you believe, then that's what you get.

Ya ya, blah blah BLAH.  Believe me, I know.  Hence the self-disgust.  Part of me knows better, yet still it seems like my intentions for relatively meaningless things come about without so much as a simple snap of the fingers, while other intentions for more meaningful aspects of my life seem to repeatedly return with a big fat "DENIED" stamp upon them.  It's like: Okay! What? What do I need to do here?  Can somebody get out the big fat crayons because apparantely there is something I'm missing here!

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.

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tenetnosce,
The rutilated quartz and smokey quartz are not that bad, but they work more with the lower chakras and clearing them out.  The amethyst is more of a centering, healing, and calming stone, plus it's great for awakening the 6th and 7th chakras.   If I were to pick one stone that helps the most with those becoming more aware at this time I would choose amethyst.   Also, try to get a beaded necklace, rather than a pendant, the necklace is much stronger and I say this from experience.     I hope this helps.

J.P.

12 (edited by tenetnosce 2006-02-26 23:40:38)

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PleiadianHealer wrote:

tenetnosce,
The rutilated quartz and smokey quartz are not that bad, but they work more with the lower chakras and clearing them out.  The amethyst is more of a centering, healing, and calming stone, plus it's great for awakening the 6th and 7th chakras.   If I were to pick one stone that helps the most with those becoming more aware at this time I would choose amethyst.   Also, try to get a beaded necklace, rather than a pendant, the necklace is much stronger and I say this from experience.     I hope this helps.

J.P.

Hmm.  Well I would say that my lower chakras are the ones more out of balance than the higher ones, though I will look into the amethyst.  I have always had an unusual pattern of energetics in that I have much more difficulty in developing my lower chakras than the higher ones.  It's as if the lower ones are more foreign to me and I don't have as much experience with them.

A curious coincidence.  I just received a catalog in the mail from "Gemisphere".  Do you have any experience with this company?  They have amethyst necklaces ranging from $145 to $1145.  How much of the therapeutic value do you think is determined by the quantity and quality of the gemstones versus the intention behind their use?

It is not for us to understand love, but simply to make space for it.

13 (edited by lyra 2006-02-26 23:41:12)

Re: Self-disgust and other observations.

tenetnosce wrote:
lyra wrote:

Your comment about "I could pretty much forget about a partner who....." blah blah blah BLAH BLAH also really stood out for me.   All I can say is...............if that's what you believe, then that's what you get.

Ya ya, blah blah blah.  I know.  Hence the self-disgust.  Part of me knows better, yet still it seems like my intentions for relatively meaningless things come about without so much as a simple snap of the fingers, while other intentions for more meaningful aspects of my life seem to repeatedly return with a big fat "DENIED" stamp upon them.  It's like: Okay! What? What do I need to do here?  Can somebody get out the big fat crayons because apparantely there is something I'm missing here!

The big fat crayons....too funny. big_smile   Well, that Bruce Lipton guy wrote a really great book that I mentioned called The Biology of Belief.  He was a cellular biologist and professor and was involved in genetic research and all that.  Also was an Atheist, and a high strung pessimist.  Had no luck in love, and had resigned himself to being miserable and alone for the rest of his life.  Then one thing led to another, and he began realizing that DNA was not responsible for triggering cell activity...belief and thoughts, aka, brainwaves were.   It went against everything that mainstream academia believed and taught, but it didn't matter...that's where the research was pointing, despite what academia had to say about it.  He had to look at what the data was showing, and see what was there, not what he wanted to see.  And so he had this big revelation and it turned his world upside down, and completely changed the way he thinks and tackles the world, and lo and behold, he realized his own beliefs and negativity were the ones holding him back, and once he changed his old mindset, things worked out for him.  And he found love!  Yay!  He's married now, and dedicates the book to her. smile smile  So you see, there you go..............it can happen.   It's all in your mindset, your vibes, your personal frequency, your thoughts, your beliefs, the whole shebang. 

I think if you work on getting past this speed bump time period in your life, relax a bit, chill, find a bit of inner peace, and stop worrying about finding love.....then it will happen.  Once you relax and find inner peace, and are putting out positive, open vibes then it will happen. Of course you're going to find someone.  You're only 30!  Bruce Lipton found his Mrs. Right I think when he was in his 50's.  So you're 20 years ahead of the game!

Just stop worrying about it and trying so hard, can't stress that enough.  Get some inner tranquility and one day when the time is "right", you'll know it.  You'll feel it on the inside and will be like, "You know, I'm *really* ready right now.   Truly.  So bring her on, wherever she is!"   It's quite possible you're not supposed to cross paths with her til you get de-frazzled and iron out some wrinkles. You might think you're ready, but maybe your higher self knows otherwise.    So defrazzle, find what makes you happy in life, focus on that, and the rest will fall into place on its own naturally.  smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Maybe your just taking life too seriously!! Remember this: If your too serious u become delerious(sp!?)

I used to feel exactly like you do now,all the infomation i was finding out became too much and nearly ended up burning myself up but as everyone has said you on the verge of a major change in your life.
The main issue was i couldnt accept what was happening in the world, i became angered, frustrated by it all, wanted to anywhere else other than where i was, but one day i realised that it was me that was making too much of it all and was affecting everything in my life, and then i just accepted things for the way they were, i realised everything was in place for a reason, and as long as i remembered this and just became happy with living my moment, and not trying to be anywhere else, peace entered my life and finally for the first time i felt wonderful, peaceful and once more i i felt love for life and accepted life for the way it was and my life changed dramatically, everything fell into place and still is. Challenges will always be there to test you and it seems to me that as well as what Lyra said,you need to detatch yourself as much as possible and accept things for the way they are because there is a grand design at work as you know, let go and let it work for you, try it and see how u go!

Peace.

"Life's not meant to be a struggle" Stuart Wilde
We are one and the same on a different path to the same destination

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tenetnosce,
Good questions about crystals and I'm glad you found gemisphere that's one great company.    And I credit the man who runs it for tipping me off about the power of beaded necklaces.   I had never thought there was a different in say just using a simple pendant with a crystal on it, but now I'm convinced, from experience, that there is a big difference.

I have one necklace from them, that I sent for a while back called "Indigo" which help's develop intuition, it's TRANSLUCENT sodalight beads, and at first I did  not think this was such a great stone, since in that past I had used it and got nothing from it, not realizing the stones I had were VERY low quality and OPAQUE.    Needless to say this necklace which does not look that poweful DID give me much stimulation in my third-eye as I wore it day after day (it's recommended to use it for at least 2 weeks to feel it's effects).   So after using this necklace I was sold on his advice and started to pay much more attention to this website.

Another interesting fact that I think makes a big difference in this website rather than other crystal websites is that the guy who run's it channel's the "gemstone guardian's" which are beings that reside in the stones themselves and are dedicated to helping humanity in a spiritual way.    I'm sure you proabaly know all stones have a "consciousness" to them, so I'm won't go into that.    This guy get's alot of tips from these beings and in turn put's out some amazing necklaces that really are theraputic.

Here's a link to the necklace I have:

http://www.gemisphere.com/gemstoneMissi … ission.htm

As it turn's out, right after I ordered this necklace, his whole backlog sold out really quick and now he does not have any in stock.

I also know a woman who ordered a "radiant heart" necklace from gemisphere for herself as a Christmas present and was amazed at how much love she feel's while wearing it.    She said it was one of the best present's should could have given herself for Christmas.

To answer your questions about crystal quality, yes, the higher the quailty the better the effect.   The good news is that if you do buy a lower quiality, let's say, amethyst beaded necklace, you'll still get some pretty good results.   Maybe not as good as the higher quality but, sometimes his prices are way out there.

This was true for me when I wanted to buy a lapis necklace from him, since I love this stone so much, but when I saw how much it would cost me, I didn't think I could afford it.    As it turns out, I found a $30  lapis necklace mala at a local bookstore and got some pretty good results from it.   I've noticed I have spontaneous psychic experiences with it on.   With the Indigo necklace, I've noticed that my mind seem's to quiet down and stay quiet throughout the day, which is very helpful when trying to take advantage of your intuition.

It's hard to say, which stones are best for you.   You would have to experiment to really see which ones call to you.   I still suggest amethyst to start, since it's great for calming the emotions and you'll be able to tune into your intuition more, but if you feel really drawn to the stones you metioned before, them go with your gut.

J.P.