• nostrum
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Topic: vampires... sort of

Ok so a few nights ago I was dreaming, and I knew I was.  Suddenly, I woke up, and I was definately awake, yet I was paralyzed - I couldn't move my arms or legs, and I was having difficulty opening my eyes also, but managed to do so.  I could feel a sucking at my neck - not physically, but sort of in a higher dimension.  I knew I wasn't dreaming at this point, and I kept trying to move my arm up to feel my neck, but I couldn't manage to move it.  Finally, after about 3 minutes, the "sucking" stopped, and I could move my arm.  I felt my neck, and of course it wasn't physically harmed.  I sat awake for about an hour in bed until I wasn't freaked out any more and then went back to sleep.  The "sucking" was making my heart beat slower.  I am not diabetic and I don't have MS or anything - I have never been paralyzed.  I don't believe in real vampires as the media makes it out to be, but this experience changed my mind to a few things - that there probably is some form of higher-dimensional beings that attack us.

~nostrum
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Re: vampires... sort of

Perhaps you were visited by some sort of incubus or sucubus? My cousin suffers from sleep paralysis but has never experienced this sucking sensation. All I can do her is quote Shakespeare: "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, then are dreamt of in your philosophy."

"A dream has power to poison sleep"
-Percy Bysshe Shelley
  • nostrum
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I am completely aware that it may have, in fact, just been that both my arms and legs fell asleep (low blood pressure or something), but in the past I have not had any physical problems with things like anemia or diabeties, etc., which is of course the first thing I considered before jumping to other conclusions.  Over the past week after this incident I have had no similar experiences, although I might want to mention that about eight years ago, I did hear voices as I was falling asleep - specifically in Latin.  I am not prone to schizophrenia, but I might add that I had taken a Latin course in school before that incident.  It may have been that random neurons in my auditory coretex were firing (shrug) due to lack of a balanced diet or sleep, which is often supposed to be the cause of hearing voices.  The vampire thingy that happened two weeks ago, and the voices from eight years ago are the only odd experiences I have ever had up to this point.

~nostrum
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Re: vampires... sort of

I think I like the sucubus/incubus concept best wink

"A dream has power to poison sleep"
-Percy Bysshe Shelley
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Re: vampires... sort of

This has been happening to me quite frequently as of late. I will sleep 10 hours, and wake up the next morning covered in assorted cuts, completely exhausted despite having had a good sleep the night before. Only happens every few weeks, I've dreamt of having an entity on my chest sucking off of me. Could be tied with the visions of shadowpeople I've been having lately?

You're staring at yourself
I'm kicking down the walls
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Alushe, it is quite possible it is you in your astral body trying to get back into your physical body.  A lot of people have this during obe's.  Same thing for you Nostrum, a lot of people who start becoming more aware of their nightly journeys experience the sleep paralysis. Next time just try and relax and try and visualize a smooth transition back into your physical self.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
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Re: vampires... sort of

Makes sense... at the moment I seem to be having a lot of occurences related to sleep and dreaming.

You're staring at yourself
I'm kicking down the walls
For all is naught

8 Reply by visavis (edited by visavis 2006-02-14 22:42:31)

  • Registered: 2005-10-16

Re: vampires... sort of

Umm, treehugger, please do not forget the realities of spiritual vampirism.  I would strongly advise that one who experiences notrum's symptoms, SHOULD NOT relax and metaphorically bend over, in any way, shape or form.

Perhaps you should read nostrum's post again.  At the very least, your advice is coming from a base which is uninformed of certain realities and actions of negative forces.

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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I dont think that my advice is coming from a base uniformed of cetain realities and actions of negative forces.  I dont see how you can say this when you dont even know me. Not every negative obe experience is cause by other entiies or spiritual vampirism either. You weren't there either to see what they were experiencing.  neither was I. I was only giving them a possible answer to what happened, nothing more.

In man's analysis and understanding of himself, it is as well to know from whence he came as whither he is going.   Edgar Cayce

Beliefs are tools for social conditioning, rather than expressions of inner realization or inner truth.   unknown
Ad Verecundiam

10 Reply by visavis (edited by visavis 2006-02-15 10:14:35)

  • Registered: 2005-10-16

Re: vampires... sort of

treehugger - You're right, I don't know you.  Sorry if my words were a bit strong.  I don't disrespect you.

Experience and study has shown me that there are etheric beings which seek energy.  There are generally negative, and generally positive ones.  The positive ones do not seek it from other beings, as they have a connection with the Godforce and can cultivate this & themselves on their own. 

The negative ones do not, or possibly choose not to have - this connection.  So when they see one who has a soul / has Godforce energy... and who is not protecting themselves (and not being protected by other positive etheric entities), they think... 'lunch'!!  [there is a NR thread that talks about this, just can't find it!]  Not protecting oneself could mean that there is a crack(s) in one's etheric field.  Just means that that person's etheric field is not sealing them. 

Now here's the interesting part... the cracks can have many different causes as I'm learning.  The largest cause is perhaps that one is not doing things that one should be doing.  IE - not acting anywhere near how their Soul/conscience wants.  It could also come by 'absence of doing'... that is, not doing positive things that one should be doing.  It can also come by having a lot of exposure to harmful radiations.  Things like ELF/ULF radiation from cellphone towers, cellphones (yes... why do you think this technology is so popular), even computers, many many more electromagnetic causes.  Also by pollutants in the air, water.  Think of it this way: things that cause cracks in one's etheric field / protection generally fall in two categories: 1) things that are consumed by your body or mind, 2) actions which are performed or not performed.  (1) generally leads to (2) - generally.

I have had a similar experience to nostrum.  It was not a pleasant experience, and the effects that followed were not positive either.  You can read about it in this post: http://forum.noblerealms.org/viewtopic.php?id=2842.

Ahurani, incubi and sucubi do exist. I believe we would actually be astonished by the stuff that's around us etherically!!  - both positive and negative.  I think most of us we would be shocked to see in actuality the (internal) building and (external) transference of Godforce/lifeforce/energy - how it actually works.

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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visavis wrote:

Ahurani, incubi and sucubi do exist. I believe we would actually be astonished by the stuff that's around us etherically!!  - both positive and negative.  I think most of us we would be shocked to see in actuality the (internal) building and (external) transference of Godforce/lifeforce/energy - how it actually works.

Oh, I know, I wasn't being entirely tongue in cheek when I suggested this as an answer. I don't think they entirely fit the old image of incubi and sucubi we've had for so long, but I don't doubt that they do exist, in some form or other.

"A dream has power to poison sleep"
-Percy Bysshe Shelley
  • Registered: 2005-10-16

Re: vampires... sort of

Stuart Wilde had some interesting things to say on the subject recently:

Stuart Wilde wrote:

So there is the outer Matrix, and the inner Matrix, which is mostly the evil part of the collective human unconscious, and then there is the myriad of dark worlds at 240-down. It's a dimension of imps and devilish entities and I also saw succubi and incubi, which are known as the spirits of lust; they jump people at night when asleep.* They look very much like Fuselli's famous painting, The Nightmare . Every time I went into the 240-down world it was much like attending a university course. It was all rather formal. I was being shown it all very methodically and in very great detail.

see http://www.stuartwilde.com/Articles/SW_ … update.htm for full article. 

cheers

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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  • Registered: 2005-08-30

Re: vampires... sort of

Heh, I read the article and thought the bit at the bottom was a bit amusing:

stuart wilde wrote:

The succubi and incubi usually only jump people that are into deviant sexual behavior: porno voyeurs, call girls, rent boys etc.

Nostrum, is there something you've been up to of late that you haven't told us about? wink

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Re: vampires... sort of

I had a sleep paralysis thingie some time ago. I was sleeping at the house of a friend in the guest room, the cats are not allowed in that room, and I was half-awake. It felt as if one of the cats (the entirely black one) was trying to get into the room (I didn't hear it trying to get it, it just felt like it was trying to get in) and I thought "haha, no way you are getting in". Then I felt a presence approaching me fast and a screech in my left ear (the door of the room was at the left). I then got fully awake and instinctively formed pulsing/exploding "bubbles" around me, basically some sort of energy shield pushing outwards. I did that thing as a kid too when I felt unpleasant and "not alone in the room". Only then I noticed I could hardly open my eyes and my other muscles were paralysed too.

If the outwards-pushing bubble/shield does not come as an instinctive reaction to you, you can still try to remember doing it consciously. If there is an entity near you, and if you set your thoughts to pushing it away, it most likely will get pushed away. About the incubus/succubus thing, I don't think such an entity would suck near the neck, but rather near the genitals / root chakra, since they specifically go for raw sexual energy.