16 Reply by Torarota (edited by Torarota 2004-06-18 15:39:00)

  • From: "Over the Hills and Far Away"
  • Registered: 2004-05-03

Re: Toning

Since this seem to be the science corner, is anybody familliar with the properties of the frequency (-ies) known as Feedback? I am not sure if this is just one particular frequency or a group of frequencies, however I have always felt it was a particularly important one (I used to play electric guitar). Healing properties maybe?

It is possible to produce frequencies in a "psychic" manner. What I mean is producing a frequency "in your head" for specific purposes. I am experimenting with this intuitively. No clear results yet.

Anybody familiar with Franz Bardon cosmic language (silent toning of letters+colors+musical notes)?

Hey Rlha 11, cool energy, whoever you are I can feel you from here!
;-)

"He simply said: Laianela"
  • Registered: 2004-03-28

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Does it mean anything if I have an innate instinct to produce a certain tone? I don't know how else to explain this but sometimes I just get the urge to hum a certain tone and it's always the same one. So one day I tried to find what tone I was producing and it matched with 280.5 Hz, which is the note C# and is also associated with the orbit of Pluto. (?)

18 Reply by BlackBox

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I think such a question wont be answered by us, seeker, to your satisfaction.

That's a very intrigueing thought though. Do you know how to image-stream? Like when you meditate and allow your subconscious to control the images that you see, rather than controlling them by your conscious? When I get into this state, I ask questions, which are answered in analogy form by my subconscious. Lucid-dreaming, no-doubt, could also lead to the same answers. But I'm not experienced in the latter...soo....

Many roads of seeking arrive at the same point, and such a question is best answered by looking within instead of asking us. I would be too afraid of giving you disinformation. big_smile

19 Reply by rlha11 (edited by rlha11 2004-06-19 18:48:52)

  • Registered: 2004-06-12

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If you tone any thing with a specific meaning behind it, it will attract the "experience" that most resonates with the tone of the vibration.

If you want to enjoy your own music, you learn to play the guitar better.  The feed back you get is in proportion to how good you believe your music to be in relation to what type of music you like.

Never read franz bardon but I think I know of the principle of it being a particular method of meditation in which you identify with a certain cosmic principle . If Bardon has anything to do with the Kaballah, he would be intoning the god name ehieh while focusing on white light at the crown of the skull. The music notes are just the pitch of the incantation.  If the meditation is deep enough, if you can first silence the body and then the mind, the mantra will then become the true focus of your energy.  It will pick up force in which ever way you are directing it until it makes the meaning of  its expression known.  This may come in a vision, a feeling, an understanding, or any other experience in reality, cause there are infinite realitys in which to connect. This is the connection in subject/object.  The connection you have to the experience is the connection you have to all things.

The energy will express and you can only know it in the way that it expresses.

Your tone can only be shown in words and sounds and colors. These attributes are not your tone though. These are expressions of your tone that most resemble what your tone really is, and what physical things your non-physical tone resonates with.  Your name is a tone of this nature. Its no accident your named what you are.

20 Reply by rlha11 (edited by rlha11 2004-06-19 18:48:37)

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"Torarota wrote:  "...producing a frequency "in your head" for specific purposes. "

If you hold a belief of (lets say) the note of C as being a frequency of healing, and you intone C  with the specific intent of healing a certain thing, if your intent be strong enough, if your visualizations be strong enough, you will experience the expression of that energy as reality.  You will become the expression of that thing healed / It will become the expression of that thing healed .

This method can be applied in other areas other than healing.  In when Mr. Bardon is aligning with his own belief in the force of(lets say) Jupiter as being of strength, as being symbolized in the color red, as having a certain vibration of sound, or a pitch in which it can be identified with.  Jupiter being a mode of expression of energy (lets say) he might be trying to connect with.

21 Reply by Torarota (edited by Torarota 2004-06-22 07:52:07)

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Re: Toning

rlha11 wrote:

If you hold a belief of (lets say) the note of C as being a frequency of healing, and you intone C  with the specific intent of healing a certain thing, if your intent be strong enough, if your visualizations be strong enough, you will experience the expression of that energy as reality.

I am actually against "holding beliefs", kinda counterproductive!

I wrote:

  "...producing a frequency "in your head" for specific purposes.

This feels very taxing in terms of energy. It doesn't really seem to be working (in terms of the purpose) especially considering the strain it puts on the brain. It also feels unpleasant at times. Intending/visualizing methods (thought-form building for example) are much safer.

I find the toning method (one color+one sound+one note) to have balancing effects at aura-level. Yes, It feels like you are aligning yourself with some "energy ray", like connecting with a frequency which is out of the realm of daily experience, and therefore has an interesting "expanding" effect. I usually choose to NOT focus on the quality Bardon attaches to the tone. (i.e: Divine Justice, origin and mystery of Life and Death etc.). The method I use is, I believe, a spin on Bardon's own. You can find it at:
http://members.yournet.com/sasha/index.html
It is explained in terms of angelic realms but I simply use the individual letter toning exercise.

"He simply said: Laianela"
  • Registered: 2004-06-12

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you wrote "I am actually against "holding beliefs", kinda counterproductive!"

lol.. You cant exist on Earth without holding beliefs.. trust me, they are ALL PRODUCTIVE!

  • Registered: 2004-06-12

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think of the irony in that statement:
"I am actually against "holding beliefs", kinda counterproductive!"

Do you realize you are holding a belief that beliefs are counterproductive.?!

24 Reply by UnbiddenTruth

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*laughs hysterically*

Thank you rlha11. That made my afterlife. ^_^

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your very welcome

I love irony, and I consider the source to be the most ironic thing ever.


Oh yea toning...
belief,
attitude,
experience,...
there ya go!:)

26 Reply by Torarota (edited by Torarota 2004-06-22 17:14:10)

  • From: "Over the Hills and Far Away"
  • Registered: 2004-05-03

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Thank you for your comments. I could not agree more. I actually wrote one day:

In Noble Realms/ General Discussion / The eyes have it, I wrote:

One old greek philosopher used to have it as his motto. Plato I think.
He used to say "I do not know anything" (not word for word maybe).
His pupils used to be bemused by this man they regarded as the pinacle of Understanding who kept repeating he did not know anything...

The idea is that All knowledge is partial. I use the analogy of a ball. It is a ball but you can never see all "sides" at the same time. So, even though the ball may have some objective existence (Let's assume it has for now). We can only ever see a fraction of it -Replace the ball by any concept, object, person, situation or "truth"- So if we bare that in mind we realize that all our views are partial and biased and therefore not True. Get it?
Sometimes I pretend I am Lao Tse and say that "All the books in the world cannot faithfully explain what is a grain of rice".

However I agree totally with your: "Regarding categorizing: I do feel that IF one is able to stay fluid, then putting things into boxes *can* be very beneficial, if only to help stay alive for the moment." We don't wanna be turning into a black hole and miss the last series of "Friends" do we? Yep I am sure even your local Ascended master, Archangel, Deva or Cassiopean has boxes of some sort!

as well as

In Noble Realms / Conspiracy / MindControl | Hasselhof, I wrote:

The concept of Tabula rasa (="cleared up table"):
-Getting rid of All beliefs
-Then putting on the table ONLY the ones that are necessary either by selecting them as a conscious choice for a definite purpose or more commonly by only allowing on the table the ones that are judged "Universal" (They could be the Hermetic theorems, Teachings or Words of Jesus, Buddah etc..).
I feel that the number of "Knowns" should be kept minimal and always guarded...

So, yes, I guess you are right.
(The best way to hold a belief is to hold it very lightly from the sides and not squeeze it too much, so you don't suffocate it and you can let go if it starts biting)

"He simply said: Laianela"