Birds stalking me (Page 3 of 6)

Tom Paine, maybe I'm assuming too much (don't think so though), but I think Voodoo and lyra are intelligent enough to recognize the difference between hawks and vultures. I myself have no problem recognizing the difference between the two, just as I have no problem telling the difference between an eagle and an osprey.

My mate studied Falconry when he was younger. As I was intrigued by what I was reading, I showed him the above posts last night and asked him about hawks flying in large packs, because as we all know they are indeed mainly solitary in their living habit.

Still, I asked him if it was unusual for hawks to gather as a large group like this. His quick response and exact words were, "It's not only unusual, it's unheard of." He, although, did not question that it was possible. He then, without pause, went on to tell me about how his father's trees are budding, in Dec./Jan., and his father lives in MO...his point being that these are unusual times, and anything, like these hawks' behavior, is not out of the realm of possiblities.

As far as hawks being carrion eaters: while their usual prey is live, they will indeed eat carrion. Simply put, a hawk will not starve itself to death for lack of live prey. If push comes to shove they will eat whatever is available, rather than starve. This would be just plain ole common sense for the hawk to choose survival over a slow death due to starvation. It's also common sense for the human to as well figure out and know that a hawk will eat carrion, if the circumstances require as much.

Of course, there are two possiblities as to why these incidences have occured.

One  is environmental influences. The lone hawk, or a pair of hawks, may exhibit unusual behavior, such as migrating out of their otherwise established territory, to feed or reproduce because their normal environment has become unstable. But still, this wouldn't explain the highly irregular nature of them flying in such a large group.

Actually, I was reading a web page last night wherein was noted that there is a breed of hawk that do fly in packs of 10-15. I don't remember which breed it was, but it was indigenous to the areas Voodoo and lyra have described. This may explain what was seen, even though the numbers of them were doubled. Even given this information, it would still be out of the ordinary, and not average for them to be flying in such large numbers.

The second possibility is not so readily "googled," or easily known as a matter of educated fact. This possiblitly would have to do with the planet and energy, and changes. One of the animal spirit wisdom meanings of the hawk is that they come with regard to psychic energy. Letting my imagination roam free and envisioning what Voodoo and lyra had seen, I am reminded of the hawk's spirit wisdom, and then furthermore, energy vortexes. A stretch it may be, but given the unsual energy of late, and obvious earth changes, I would gander to say that something along these lines is not impossible.

No doubt, .

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

Another sign that they weren't buzzards.

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.

Well, you could be right Tom Paine.  I did a search on "turkey buzzard" on google to get an image, and here's what came up:

^^^^ That's exactly what I saw.  !

A search on hawks yielded:

^^^^ That's NOT what I saw.  !

So, I guess you're right....it was a pack of turkey buzzards.  My bad! 

No problem, Auendove.  I'm constantly amazed at many people's unfamiliarity with
different kinds of wildlife.  Back when I was a kid, some of my fondest memories
were of seeing things in the wild.  At the end of our street there was a barbed wire
fence and beyond that was nothing but open country with rabbits, quail, jackrabbits,
crows, hawks, buzzards, possums, rats, snakes, mudpuppies (salamanders) bullfrogs
and egrets and cranes and doves.  Now there's the local police department, city hall
and an unending stretch of housing developments and paved roadways.

"...They paved Paradise and put up a parking lot"----Joni Mitchell

*sigh*

Reminds me of an interesting thing that happened to me once.  My house backs up to a little pond and behind that there are some big trees. Once in a while i will see crows hanging out in these trees (about 100ft from my back yard) in huge numbers.  Anyhow, about a year ago i decided i was going to invest a decent chunk of my money in a stock called GMC holdings, they claim to have a free energy device and at the time they were coming out with all these press releases and had raised the stock price from 0.25 to 0.90 in a day or two.  So i got in at like 1.15, and by the end of the day it went up to ~2.25.  The next morning I wake up and go outside and there are like, 50+ crows sitting on the fence of my backyard(which is very small, like 1/8 acre).  When I get out there, they stay for a moment, and then they all fly away to the aforementioned trees.  So I go inside and the price is like, 1.60 or something, I hang out for a while, go back to go outside, look out the back door, and all the crows are back on my fence.  This time I go out and slam the door real loud and they all fly away again.  So now at this point I am thinking this is pretty odd because we have been living here for ~10 years and I've never once seen this.  So I am paying attention to my backyard for about 30 min, looking out the window frequently and stuff, and they aren't coming back as far as I can tell.  Eventually I go back outside to find that all the crows are back, except this time instead of being on my fence they are split up about 50/50 with half on my neighbor to the left and half on my neighbor to the right.  And again as soon as I go outside they all fly away even though this time they are not in as close proximity as they had been before.  At the time I thought that maybe they were watching me and somehow knew that I was checking to see if they were still there, so they had repositioned themselves to the sides so I wouldn't see them.  I was convinced at the time that it had to do with my investment, so I went inside and sold at ~1.23, breaking about even after fees, within an hour it was <0.70 and it has been back at about .25 ever since.  I have seen some crows back in the trees way behind my house but I have never seen them on my fence since then(or before)

Hi smeene.  My first impression of your story is that the flock of crows were scoping out
a new place to roost.  Whenever they feel like their roosting place has been discovered
by hunters or too many people, they'll move the whole flock to a safer place.

Hi lyra.  You hit it on the head when you said that knowledge of wildlife is not an
immediate survival concern of people living in the city.  We're getting more and more
disconnected from the world we live in and isolated from those magical interactions
that we can have in nature.  And we are less human for it.

"Wild life, the law of my life,
I'm goin' up on the mountain for the rest of my life.
Before the take my life, before they take my wild life.

Before they take my wife!.."

---Wild Life by Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

Here's an additional link to a website called "Shamanism: Working With Animal Spirits."

http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/4076/index1.html

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
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Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance.
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If you spin around on your chair really fast, things around here will make a lot more sense.