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Topic: Who Built the Moon?!

I just finished reading an interesting book called “Who Built the Moon?�  by Christopher Knight and Alan Butler.  In it, the authors propose that the moon was deliberately manufactured by some unknown force, and then they set about to prove their case.   The reason I enjoy this book and want to pass along the recommendation and head’s up is because the authors have the math to back up their claim.  It’s one thing to have a subjective opinion and belief that something is a certain way……but it’s another thing entirely to back your opinion up with the math.  People can’t argue with you then, because the math speaks for itself! 

Another reason it’s worth mentioning is that I believe this information is useful.  You will now have your own personal proof about things, and can take that information and extrapolate from there.  So for anybody who's been going in circles lacking the concrete proof (other than personal experiences) that this reality is not how TPTB would have us believe, then this is the book for you.  wink   I put it in the same category as Goro Adachi’s book, “The Time Rivers", where he proved, beyond a shadow of a doubt, (imo!)  that the Nile River was intelligently designed and not a naturally occurring land form.  (On a side note, I’d be very surprised to hear that the authors were not familiar with Goro’s work;  from their mentions of “lateral thinking"  and their belief in "messages that need to be decoded" acting as some sort of "test for humanity"  in order to prove that we’re ready to "move on to the next level", it all sounds very Goro-inspired. wink

The authors' theory extends beyond the moon though, to include the Earth-Moon-Sun system trio as a whole.   They prove that the Earth and Moon were both designed to mathematically fit into the Sun.   Highlighting some of the authors' more astounding discoveries, I'll explain what I mean by that:

The authors discovered that when you look at the measurements of the Earth-Moon-Sun system, certain numbers kept repeating themselves, (100, 1,000, 10,000, 400, 366) and things consistently added up to nice, neat, rounded integers, as well as corresponding perfectly to the metric system, measurements neatly divided into other, and overall, things were just mathematically perfect in such a way that it was statistically impossible.  Over and over again things matched up, lined up, and divided up with the Earth-Moon-Sun trio…but these statistically impossible, neat and perfect measurements can’t be found to exist with any of the other planets in our solar system.

Most important of all, the authors realized that:  Things were designed in such a way so that everything would line up and fit neatly together during this time period, designating a message of sorts that would be discovered and decoded.

By "this time period", they mean one million years in each direction, since it is during this one million year period that the ever-recessing moon is at its current position.  So I found that to be particular interesting in its implications.  Things were designed to all come together during a pointed time period in Earth’s history.



"The Mathematical Message"

There are 366 days in an Earth year

Earth is 366 times bigger than the moon

The moon is 27.31% of Earth’s size.

The moon orbits the Earth once every 27.322 days

The Earth’s speed used to be slowing down, but in 1999 scientists discovered that it had finally stopped and settled in 27,780 meters per second...

...which just so happens to be 1/10,000th of the speed of light in a vacuum.


For every 10,000 Earth days, the moon completes 366 orbits around the Earth.

100 / 366 = 0.27322


There are 109.245 Earth diameters across the face of the Sun at Earth’s aphelion;
There are 109.267 Sun diameters between the Sun and the Earth.
The Moon’s equatorial circumference is 10,920.8 kilometers

The moon spins at a rate of exactly 1 kilometer per second at its equator.  Very perfect.  Not some random speed.


The Earth rotates 400 times faster than the moon.

The Moon is 400 times smaller than the sun.
The Moon is 400 times closer to the Earth than the sun...
...and this allows for total solar eclipses, which do not occur on any other planet in our solar system.




There's also a nifty little chart that shows this:

Earth turns per orbit         % size of polar circumference

Earth   366.259                  27.31
Moon     27.396              366.175



The authors talk about a number things in the book, not just the mathematical message in the Earth-Moon-Sun trio, but one of the major points they hammer home is that life on Earth as we know it would not exist were it not for the moon.   The moon is what regulates our 23.5 degree tilt, which allows for our 4 seasons, our climate that is hospitable to life - and us -,  and allows water in liquid form. 

So after one peruses through all the math and sees that Wow, things line up, in an uncanny way, the question of course becomes "Who did this?!!?" and "NOW WHAT?!"

The authors don't have a definitive answer.  Who would, after all.  They muse about everything from Extraterrestrials, God, to time travel.  Because who the frick knows who did this. 

But it does prove...........none of this was an accident, that's for sure.  The rest of the solar system doesn't seem to have mathematical configurations like this.  It really shows that Earth, being the only blue and white marble among 8 other lifeless planets, was deliberately created to be the paradise that we see around us.   This book will make you appreciate Earth, if nothing else!

There's a lot more to be found in the book, not just this, so I think it's worth picking up if this is the sort of thing you're interested in.   The book has its flaws and seems to have been generated in a huge hurry, as if the authors didn't want to wait to get this material out there at the expense of editing errors, but it's still worth it.   (For instance, in the photos section, there's a picture of Mars, credited as being the Moon!  Hello!  I made a joke at the bookstore, "If they got that wrong, then what else did they get wrong?!?!"  But I realized, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, and could tell there was still some useful information to be gleaned in the book so I got it anyway.)

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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lyra wrote:

But it does prove...........none of this was an accident, that's for sure.

Is anything an accident?  I mean, with all the inexplicable synchronicities that we observe, and we feel them to be a positive nature, surely that should lead us in the direction of a macro-Purpose of similar kind, no?

IE: If we see catch glimpses of stuff coming together in very strage ways, in our own lives, how could we then apply that to our perception of 'the big picture'?

{Trust.}

Thanks for posting that Lyra, I find it quite interesting... smile

"The unknown does not incite fear, but dependence on the known does." - J. Krishnamurti

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"Intelligent Design" means different things to different people......

"I hate dreaming. because when you want to sleep, you want to sleep. Dreaming is work. Next thing you know I have to build a go-kart with my ex landlord"
-The late Mitch Hedberg

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visavis wrote:

Is anything an accident?

Nope, I guess not.   There are no accidents!  But I love seeing the proof of this, don't you?  smile  That's always pretty neat.


visavis wrote:

IE: If we see catch glimpses of stuff coming together in very strage ways, in our own lives, how could we then apply that to our perception of 'the big picture'?

Exactly!


visavis wrote:

Thanks for posting that Lyra, I find it quite interesting... smile

You're very welcome!


CortexVortex wrote:

"Intelligent Design" means different things to different people......

Indeed.  I've heard it used to describe the workings of both God and aliens alike. 

If aliens were behind this, then they were / are damn intelligent, indeed.  Almost like Gods themselves to be able to do this.  (imo!)  Then again, that could be me being the primitive little primate, in awe of these advanced creatures from who knows where doing what seems to be the impossible, "magic."

It also reminds me of something I read somewhere, of some atheist scientist (I know, can I be more vague!) who, in studying the mathematical configurations in space and physics and all that determined there MUST be a God, because everything was so perfect, beyond mere chance and evolution.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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This is very interesting.  I'll have to add this book to my "soon to read" list.  It is like going a full circle.  First, The Creation, then the Big Bang and back to The Creation.  It seems to me that everything around us can be rendered to a mathematical expression.  Electromagnetic waves, light, music, a chair, etc...  Somebody or something pretty smart (way beyond our concept of intelligence) must have had an input on what we perceive as "Our Universe".  I'd like to compare it to the "Architech" in the Matrix for lack of a better analogy.

Regards

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I knew this rang a bell (on my own hollow moon? big_smile ).

Had read about those perfect ratios between the moon and our earth and so much more. Tho I can't find the exact page right now, here's a link to the Halexandria site where I initially read it. That site's got a wealth of info, and links to so many related articles e.g. When the Earth was Moonless; The Adam's Family (loony take on Adam of the Bible?) ..., many of which I get lost in, so that's likely why I can't relocate the specific page.

Anyhow, here's a lead:

http://www.halexandria.org/dward199.htm

Happy sleuthing "lunatics" wink

btw, if anyone does locate that page with the moon-earth ratios, I'd love to have it so I can bookmark it this time. Thanks,

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Yeah, this moon stuff definitely interests me.  See, I don't believe in "just coincidence" at all.  So when this many "coincidences" cluster together, I have a *really* tough time shrugging it off.  Same thing with the mathematics of Cydonia, the pyarmids, and all of that.

Thanks for sharing this -- I'll be adding that to my "must have" list!

This is no time for the righteous
Only the wicked survive
Bake up a batch of the Yellow Cake
Bake up a batch of the lies
- - - - -[ Yellow Cake - Ministry - Rio Grande Blood (2006)

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whywhywhy wrote:

This is very interesting.  I'll have to add this book to my "soon to read" list.

Risen wrote:

Thanks for sharing this -- I'll be adding that to my "must have" list!

Cool....although do be forwarned, the book isn't perfect.  There are definitely areas where it could have been much better.   Although honestly, a lot of people probably wouldn't notice it.  But there are a couple of parts where the writing was awkward, and I found myself having to re-read something several times to figure out what the authors were trying to say;  taking an entire paragraph to say what could have been said with only two sentences!!!!  (VERY obnoxious);  a tendancy to meander around in parts instead of maintaining a sharp laser focus;  and overall talking in what I consider to be a slightly dumbed down way. 

Also, the photos in the middle of the book are mostly just generic stock photos and contribute nothing to the book...and one of them is labeled incorrectly to boot!!!!!!   They're just there to make the book more fun I guess, but why bother when it's just generic stock photos, you know? 

Overall, it was like they were trying to crank this puppy out in a BIG hurry, for whatever reason.  I'm curious as to what the huge hurry is. 

One last point is that the authors are coming from a Masonry background, not a physics and astronomy background, which means they're lacking the physics and astronomy knowledge to understand a lot of what they accidentally discovered and stumbled onto.  You can feel that they're bumbling their way through it, which is endearing, but it may also turn some people of who might be expecting "experts" in that field. These guys come across as real though, they talk in a friendly, accessible way, so they're definitely likable, and you can feel real people behind the words.  To me that's important.   More important than writing blunders.   If I can sense that someone is sane, and means well, and is truly onto something and feels and sounds real, then I will overlook all the rest and keep reading the book.

Oh yeah...and another interesting point to note is that after they concluded their research they sent their findings to some top "experts" in astronomy and physics or whatever and were flat out rejected.  Academia doesn't want to hear this.   THAT is a HUGE conspiracy.  I totally felt their frustration when they were talking about this at the end of the book.  Academia does not want to rock the boat or challenge the status quo.   To acknowledge something like this has huge implications I guess, which they just don't want to deal with.  It ruins their neat and tidy (and plot hole filled) theories that are firmly established and make life seem safe, predictable, orderly and tidy.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Lyra,

I was just on the phone with my son and he wanted to know if wanted something specific for Christmas.  I thought about it for second and I said "How about a book tittled "Who Built the Moon"".  We finished our conversation and a few seconds later I noticed you quoted my statement about adding the book to my "To read list".  What a coincidence!

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Interesting moon info.



Here is another example where a 'moon', or more appropriately, satellite, in our solar system that actually may have been built by beings in the 3rd density ( I'm assuming 'beings in the 3rd density' because 4rth density beings would probably have done a better job. ?!  )  smile

It's call "Iapetus" and is one of  the 17 satellites orbiting Saturn.

http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm



Any thoughts ?
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google wrote:

Interesting moon info.



Here is another example where a 'moon', or more appropriately, satellite, in our solar system that actually may have been built by beings in the 3rd density ( I'm assuming 'beings in the 3rd density' because 4rth density beings would probably have done a better job. ?!  )  smile

It's call "Iapetus" and is one of  the 17 satellites orbiting Saturn.

http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm



Any thoughts ?
Old news ?

Thanks for the link google.  The ridge along the equator of Iapetus is rather amazing.  This formation  does not appear to be the work of a random celestial happening.  Maybe the builders of Cydonia (Mars) have something to do with the odd features of Iapetus.

Regards

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whywhywhy wrote:

Thanks for the link google.  The ridge along the equator of Iapetus is rather amazing.  This formation  does not appear to be the work of a random celestial happening.  Maybe the builders of Cydonia (Mars) have something to do with the odd features of Iapetus.

Regards

You quite welcome.




The world is an amazing place.

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If somebody built the moon, might somebody have built the earth? I've been thinking about the fact that we have very little evidence of high tech civilizations of the past, yet there are numerous legends about such civilizations. I am more inclined to trust the legends. We're certainly able to produce very impressive technologies today, and the industrial revolution was only 200 years ago. So what happened to yesterday's high-tech? What force would be able to erase the evidence? The thought that came to mind was that the ocean might be able to digest the evidence, in time. The image of a clockwork planet with a hollow center and a sectioned surface popped into my head, and I saw the ocean floor rising and the dry land falling, with the water moving accordingly. It reminded me of this bible verse:

Isaiah 40:4 "Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain."

It's a pretty strange science-fiction kind of idea, but I thought I'd put it out there.

--Justin

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Alien Agenda by Jim Marrs has an entire chapter about the moon. Supposedly the early Apollo astronauts set off seismic charges on the moon and it rang like a bell, indicating it is hollow to some extent.  Another story I read is that the Apollo 13 group wanted to set off a much seismic charge for further tests, but the aliens objected and disabled the spacecraft  preventing it from landing.

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czyx wrote:

If somebody built the moon, might somebody have built the earth? I've been thinking about the fact that we have very little evidence of high tech civilizations of the past, yet there are numerous legends about such civilizations. I am more inclined to trust the legends.

Right on, that makes sense because even though earth changes can be violent enough to wipe out most of the previous civilization, things are just a bit too clean. And not only clean, but seeming organized in an intelligent manner. There are enough anomalies and myths to suggest something was there. Lyra mentioned Goro Adachi's book "The Time Rivers" which proposed that the Nile must have been artificially engineered due to its geometry encoding various prophetic and esoteric in too uncanny a manner to be mere coincidence.

There, you transcend the ancient astronaut theory and get into the realm of transdimensional timeline engineering by hyperdimensional intelligences. In my various reading there has emerged consistent clues about some type of technology capable of editing our reality at the root level.

The first clue I found in the Cassiopaean Transcripts, where the Ark of the Covenant was described as being a "Trans Dimensional Atomic Remolecularizer," a device of immense power designed by STO forces to allow reshaping of third density timelines and manifestation of physical matter via fourth density processes. Supposedly the ancient Hebrews possessed it, but STS forces working through them managed to control and abuse the Ark, forcing it to be retrieved by STO forces and stashed away for safekeeping. And the transcripts claim that fourth density STS forces nevertheless have similar devices which are less powerful, one of which is buried at Oak Island and kicked into operation during geomagnetic disturbances. They cryptically implied that this device is meant to stay buried because rather than needing to be transported across ground, it moves the ground across it. In other words, it reshapes physical reality accordingly.

The second clue I found in "Foucault's Pendulum" by Umberto Ecco:

Foucault's Pendulum wrote:

The earth is a great magnet, and the force and direction of its currents are
influenced by the celestial spheres, the cycle of the seasons, the precession of the
equinoxes, the cosmic cycles. Thus the pattern of the currents changes. But it must
change like hair, which, though it grows everywhere on the top and sides of the skull,
nevertheless spirals out from a point toward the back, where it rebels most against
the comb. When that point has been identified, when the most powerful station has
been established there, it will be possible to control, direct, command all the telluric
currents of the planet. The Templars realized that the secret lay not only in
possessing the global map of the currents, but also in knowing the critical point, the
Omphalos, the Umbilicus Telluris, the Navel of the World, the Source of the
Command.

“It’s perfect,"  Diotallevi said. “But then, when you know how to direct the telluric
currents, what do you do with them? Make beer?"

“Come on,"  I said. “Haven’t you grasped the significance of this discovery? In the
Telluric Navel you place the most powerful valve, which enables you to foresee rain
and drought, to release hurricanes, tidal waves, earthquakes, to split continents, sink
islands (no doubt Atlantis disappeared in some such reckless experiment), raise
mountain chains....You realize the atomic bomb is nothing in comparison? Besides
which, it also hurts the one who drops it. From your control tower you telephone, for
example, the president of the United States, and you say to him: By tomorrow
morning I want a dodecadillion dollars–or the independence of Latin America, or the
state of Hawaii, or the destruction of your stockpile of nuclear weapons–or else the
San Andreas Fault will crack definitively and Las Vegas will become a floating
casino..."

“But Las Vegas is in Nevada."

“Doesn’t matter. When you control the telluric currents, you can snip off Nevada,
too, and Colorado. Then you telephone the Supreme Soviet and you say: Comrades, by
Monday I want all the caviar of the Volga, and I want Siberia as my frozen-food
locker; otherwise I’ll suck the Urals under, I’ll make the Caspian overflow, I’ll cut
loose Lithuania and Estonia and sink them in the Philippine Trench."

“Yes,"  Diotallevi said. “The power would be immense. The earth could be rewritten
like the Torah. Japan lands in the gulf of Panama."

“Panic on Wall Street."

“Forget about Star Wars. Forget about transforming base metal into gold. You aim
the right current, stir up the bowels of the earth, and make them do in ten seconds
what it used to take them billions of years to do, and the whole Ruhr becomes a
diamond mine. Eliphas Levi said the knowledge of the universe’s tides and currents
holds the secret of human omnipotence."

“That must be so,"  Belbo said. “It’s like transforming the whole world into an orgone
box. It’s obvious. Reich was definitely a Templar."

“Everyone was, except us. Thank God we've caught on. Now we’re a step ahead of
them."

But what stopped the Templars, once they knew the secret? The problem was how to
exploit it. Between knowing and know-how there was a gap. So, instructed by the
diabolical Saint Bernard, the Templars replaced the menhirs, poor Celtic valves, with
Gothic cathedrals, far more sensitive and powerful, their subterranean crypts
containing black virgins, in direct contact with the radioactive strata; and they
covered Europe with a network of receiver-transmitter stations communicating to
one another the power and the direction, the flow and the tension, of the telluric
currents.

“I say they located the silver mines in the New World, caused eruptions of silver
there, and then, controlling the Gulf Stream, shifted that precious metal to the
Portuguese coast. Tomar was the distribution center; the Foret d’Orient, the chief
storehouse. This was the origin of their wealth. But this was peanuts. They realized
that to exploit their secret fully they would have to wait for a technological advance
that would take at least six hundred years."

That pretty much speaks for itself...

Third clue comes from various myths having to do with a device that used to grind out "good and plenty." One is the Sampo of Finnish mythology or Amlodi's Quern, a magic millstone that used to grind out peace and goodness for all. Related is a horn that Hercules broke off when he was a baby, out of which flowed an endless supply of milk. The cornucopia is similar. What all these have in common is that they look like vortices and supplied endless material goods. A millstone takes grain through the central hole then grinds it up along spiral grooves. A horn (think of a unicorn horn) is spiral in shape. And a cornucopia looks like a basket-woven vortex. The scandinavian myths talk of the millstone coming unhinged, or being stolen, and that this led to it grinding out only salt, until eventually it fell into the ocean to create a giant whirlpool, the maelstrom. That to me parallels in mythological form clues 1 and 2. You can read more about these myths in Georgio de Santilliana's "Hamlet's Mill"...

From what I gather, there is something... some combination of technology/consciousness/divinity that gave birth to reality as we currently know it to be. It's truly an alchemical thing because its use and effects involve all levels of existence, not just physical. It could be identical to the Grail, the Keystone, the Philosopher's Stone, the pivot of the Pendulum, millstone, Ark of the Covenant...

There is something about this thing starting the various cycles of linear time which converge back to their inititial positions when the grand cycle comes to an end...like the movie Cube where the rooms must align back to their initial positions to allow escape...something about old worlds being wrecked repeatedly only to give rise to a new one...like in Matrix Reloaded where it was revealed there were at least five versions prior to the current one...there is something about an "error" in its use, an abuse, that created our current timeline and initiated a corrective vortex or maelstrom guiding those in its influence synchronistically ever closer to the eye and out of this timeloop...like in the movie Donnie Darko where a wormhole vortex initiates an alternate timeloop to close the causal sequence before allowing escape...

Yeah, I think the clues are all around us, and if any of the above is legit, then it would be natural for us to have some type of resonance to this topic (in this thread, and related) due to a subconscious memory of what happened before and outside the timeloop, and why reality is just so strangely 'designed' to work out the way it does, how clues can be arranged into names of places and people, into our own names via anagrams and what not, how the maelstrom moves us ever closer to that nexus point, the singularity that might just suck us through into infinity and out the other side.

Acquiring fringe knowledge is like digging for diamonds in a mine field.