Everything You've Been Told About the "Grays" is Bunk (Page 9 of 24)

I haven't read the whole book but did skim through the second chapter that is on the website 'Who We Are, Why We Are Here' and a couple of things struck me - apart from a rather glib writing style (which just rubs me the wrong way and probably helps create a prejudice against her cause). The first thing was that I'd read all that she was recounting elsewhere before in other books, and that it fell firmly in the 'space brothers' category, the second was how it felt like somebody was trying to sell me something - apart from the book that is

In The Allies of Humanity, Summers relates the messages of how those uninvited visitors that are here are very cunning, able to sweet-talk their way in, gaining our acceptance/approval/invitation thereby not transgressing against freewill, as they have been invited, exactly what Ms Larkins suggests. Almost diametrically opposed position to the Allies, and neatly summarising for me the 'space brothers vs devious hive' polarising of the greys in contemporary mythology.

This is interesting, we tend to develop our opinions based on our experiences, another may behave in a kind, or a malevolent way towards us, thereby influencing our subjective opinion/belief about them, but, and it's a big one, the intent and collected behaviour of that individual over time, can perhaps give a clearer indication, or more objective viewpoint of their psychopathology. In my case, having never to my knowledge been abducted, I will wait and see what fruit the tree bears, before I decide whether any entities that have decided to reveal themselves are my space brothers, or part of an alliance seeking access to earthly resources for their own benefit at the expense of humankind. The Allies would possibly say that I'm sitting on the fence and that by then it will be too late.

In terms of dreams and their significance, for a period of a few years I had occasional dreams where hostile ufos would be scanning/attacking the area/people I was with, then one final dream saw the sky filled with thousands of different types of ufo, but the feeling of persecution was replaced with a deep peace.

The thing is, when we really get into the subtleties of how we create our reality, then if they are there, we have in some way given them permission, as indicated by the title of Lyssa Royal's book Visitors From Within.

That book goes into depth on this question, and there is a whole chapter about how to stop an abduction if we wish.  In other words, even if we have initially given permission on a subconscious level, we can still change our minds.  But, most people are still so stuck in the "victim" mindset that it doesn't even occur to them that all they have to do is say "No" and mean it.  There is a proclamation they recommend be given from a sense of empowerment:  I do not need this experience in the form that it is occurring. I desire to change this communication.

More from "Visitors":  "The abduction experience really works in a very clear way with the idea that you are the creators of your reality. On your Earth you are not necessarily aware that when you think something, it manifests, because there are many things between the original thought and the manifestation.  The abduction experiencce is more direct. It plays on your beliefs on yourself and your world.  Therefore, if you believe you can be a victim, if you believe your world is somehow being controlled---any of those beliefs--they will be played out and reflected back to you in the abduction experience.  So changing the experience means changing those beliefs and proclaiming a new belief that you would like to express."

We are the ones who have put that label on the experience; in doing so we have pre-judged it.

Well, again, as I said, we have the power to stop what's going on if we want.  I've never experienced an abduction myself, or if I have, I don't remember it.  I do hold that we can't ever totally reclaim our power if we continue to put that power outside of ourselves, as we do whenever we abdicate owning our creations. As it says in Visitors From Within: "It is time now to recognize that nothing happens to you from another source.  You are the source generating all experiences that you have."

I know these snippets probably sound glib and superficial to anyone who is convinced that abductions are "wrong."  I do recommend you read the book, and do so with an open mind.

lol. . guess I deleted my post just a moment too late.  That's OK keep this one up here.  I just thought it may have sounded too authoritarian.

I haven't read Lyssa's book, but I am acquainted with her personally and we share some mutual friends, so I've definitely heard these ideas before.

My issue here is that people seem to have a different standard for conduct when speaking about interactions with aliens then they do about humans.  Why?  Because their bodies are different from ours?  I don't really get that.

I think the same criticisms of the YCYOR crew apply here as well.  When a five year old little girl is sexually abused by her father she did not consciously choose that.  Period.  Trying to explain the event using various metaphysical constructs only serves toward further dissociation from the experience, in my opinion.

There are countless examples of abuse, sexual and otherwise, where you can find evidence that the person actually invited the abuse through their words or actions.  This does not make it O.K.  Does a woman deserve to get raped because she was scantily dressed, piss drunk, and acting like a complete slut?  Absolutely not.

So why is there a different standard when talking about abductions?  I maintain that abduction is a form of abuse.  Yes, adopting a victim mentality toward the experience is counterproductive.  Yet as with any form of abuse, the first step towards healing and preventing further occurences is to admit that abuse happened in the first place.

OK! Here is a repost then. 

lyra. . Enjoy your cookie.  I promise, by the time you're done eating it, you'll feel right as rain.

I know we've heard this one before, but I think it cannot be emphasized too much.

Anybody who sneaks in through your back door or spontaneously materializes in your bedroom without your permission is not your friend.  It's surprising to me that this is even in question.  Who cares if it is a gray or if it is a human or if it is a leprechaun?

Abductions are called abductions because it implies the violation of free will.  Otherwise it is just going for a ride on a really cool spaceship.

I don't need somebody to stick a metal probe up my butt or insert mechanical tracking devices into my body to know that I don't like it.

Let's call a spade a spade.  Abductees that make excuses for their abductors and give all sorts of reasons why they are not bad are in a textbook pattern of abuse.  Nobody wants to admit that daddy didn't have the best of intentions when he was touching your private parts, but the stark truth is that daddy is sick and he is abusing you.

I don't care if you "asked" for it.  You were confused and you were being taken advantage of by another being.  You were violated.  (I'm using the general "you" here)

Here dear, you can have a cookie too. 

Um, what specifically are you responding to?