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And down went GLP. This is of course a coincidence.

Re: URGENT URGENT -- Ruling Elite member at forum!!!! This is indeed real.

It went down right after I made the following post, about 10 minutes ago:

HEY, I FOUND OUT WHO Insider IS!!!! Read this excerpt from "The Reptilian Pact":
http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/reptilian_pact.htm

".....We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms.

Members of these groups [Editor ´s Note: the Illuminati] will think they are one with us never knowing the truth.

They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment.

This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them.

This reality will be their prison.

They will live in self-delusion."

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Energy wrote:

Montalk,

In my experiences with Reptilians, I have learned a few things:

1.  Reptilians operate on a higher/lower plane than the one we exist.  In order for a Reptilian to manifest on this plane, it must assume a willing...even if at the subconscious level, host.  Similar to a parasite.  These beings can readily be identified by a trained eye.  The being appears to the trained eye with certain features of a reptile; it may appear as if the person resembles a snake...lizard...alligator...etc.  Similar to some people's accounts of intense mushroom/acid/peyote trips, where the tripper claims to have seen specific animals residing in a person. 

2.  They are not shapeshifters in this manifestation of reality (3d).  However, once a host has been infected, reptilians can interchange possession of the host.  This is usually directed on a higher level of command by governing Reptilians.

3.  One readily identifiable trait that I have perceived is a person that talks a lot and will, at certain intervals of conversation, stick their tongue out quickly...similar to how a frog shoots his tongue muscle into the air to snatch an unsuspecting fly.

4.  Though they are self-serving beings, they are controlled by higher orders of Reptilians who typically assume hosts that have gained power over a collective people. 

E

What are the reptilians? Where did they come from? Why are they here?

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troydungeon wrote:

It went down right after I made the following post, about 10 minutes ago:

HEY, I FOUND OUT WHO Insider IS!!!! Read this excerpt from "The Reptilian Pact":
http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/reptilian_pact.htm

The Reptilian Pact sounds like a very watered down version of "THE PROTOCOLS OF THE LEARNED ELDERS OF ZION".  hmm

http://www.aztlan.net/protocols.htm

20 (edited by Neomatrix 2005-09-28 20:37:13)

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troydungeon wrote:

It went down right after I made the following post, about 10 minutes ago

troydungeon, you're my hero!

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

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David Icke replies to Insider.

http://www.davidicke.com/icke/headlines.php

´Revelations of an Insider ´ - or rather classic disinformation

I have been sent a number of copies of a forum exchange passing around the Net claiming to come from an  ´insider ´ of the Elite families. It is classic disinformation in that it mixes truth with lies in an attempt to catch you with the truth so you also accept the lies.

First comes the old tired claim that the Elite families have been put into power according to  ´Divine Law ´. This is certainly what the Illuminati would like us to believe, but it is bollocks. And it repeats another cliche claim that goes around and around - that I am being  ´used ´. It says:

´The reptilian part was fed him by the ones who work for the bloodlines.
In a period of 7, 8 months he was bombarded with "victims" who witnessed shape-shifting, satanic rituals, etc. in such a way he could not refuse to not believe it [a double negative]. Sometimes the "witnesses" were led to him a few times a day, depending on his location. ´

First of all I have been meeting such people for 8 YEARS not eight months and on not one single occasion in all that time have I met more than one in a day let alone were they  ´led to him a few times a day, depending on his location. ´ What utter nonsense. And if the idea was to mislead me so I misled others why does this  ´Elite insider ´ now tell people that ´s what they did?? Ugh? Rather defeats the object, eh? Or is it not somewhat more likely that it is intended to discredit something that is too close to the truth?

The unnamed  ´insider ´ also agrees that I have said that writer Laurence Gardner is a  ´powerful member of the Elite. ´ But, as I have said all along, the ones with the real power do not put themselves on public display, they operate in the background pulling the strings of the people we do see. This latter fact is mentioned like some startling revelation by this  ´Elite insider ´ when anyone who has done any significant research knows that this is so. I mean, George Bush is leading America?? Please. The sad thing is that some people are taking this crap seriously.

22 (edited by azriel 2005-10-07 02:39:30)

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lyra wrote:

Whenever you read what one of these guys have to say, you're left feeling pretty crappy afterwards;  there's something kind of negative overall about their message, tucked covertly underneath the gems of truth, something which leaves you feeling deflated.   He mentions some of the "positive" truths, sure, such as we have more power than we realize, we need to work on ourselves, and even non-bloodlines can achieve what the bloodlines do.  But where's the mention of our higher selves?  I've connected with what I perceive to be as mine;  but he doesn't mention this.  Where's the mention of any helpful beings?  Because many will attest to having crossed paths with them.  They do exist, they're out there, but he's strangly mum on the topic.  He focuses more on presenting earth as a "prison. . . and worse. . . " and how when somebody writes something "bad" on the forum, oops, "that's another incarnation on Earth for you.  Sorry."   You're left feeling kind of hopeless, like nothing you do will be good enough to get yourself out of here, and you're just doomed.

i disagree as i did not find i felt crappy or that the overral message was negative. I thought the guy was speaking a lot of sense and gave good advice, whoever he is. He spoke rather matter of factly but i dont think he was saying there's nothing you can do, i think he was quite clear about what to do - work on yourself, be that which you seek. Just because he may not have mentioned things that you specifically believe in and are important to you (connecting with your higher self) doesn't make his overrall message negative. And without meaning to cause offence i would suggest that if you are left feeling crappy and deflated then it is your ego reacting and not your higher self - getting a sense of nothing will be good enough i would also put down to the ego. Yes he was saying the earth is a prison but he didnt say you can't get out as allready mentioned above, work on yourself etc.. and also practical tips about food.

The incarnation thing was quite harsh but i think a lot of the people on the forum were being quite stuck in delusion and programming and not very 'enlightened' so maybe it will take them a lot more time to 'get it' or maybe he just said that to evoke a reaction/ to push a button...

I personally really liked his message as to me it reflected taking responsibility and retrospection, changing yourself instead of making an attempt to change whats around you and an underlying theme of 'the answers are within you'

all this being said its just my opinion and interpretation which can mean as little or as much as you choose...

23 (edited by lyra 2005-10-07 05:36:23)

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hmm

Overall I enjoyed his message as well......................and seem to be one of the few here at NR who actually believe this guy may indeed have ties to something on the "inside."   Most people are rejecting what he had to say, at NR, and elsewhere, and David Icke has gone as far as to post a public rebuttle.  So I wonder why you chose to focus on my quote, instead of any of theirs....?  Especially considering that I actually overall agree that he is indeed on the "inside" and did get something out of his words?

I may not have liked certain *parts* of what he was saying, for whatever personal reasons, (and I still see many simalarities between "the insider" and John Titor, who's another "mixed bag")  but it sure beats other people who are outright saying that he's full of bunk.   So again, I wonder, why the focus on my quote, and not any of them?

Just wondering.

(And if I sound a little "sensitive" about that fact that you did this, well, I guess I am!  Cause guaranteed, there can be 10 comments or responses thrown into the pot about some subject, but people usually seem to "zero in" on my response, out of everybody's......even when my response is actually more moderate than others'.  There's more to it than just that part of it, but needless to say, it's gotten to be VERY weird at this point, and others have noticed this as well, so I know it's not my imagination. wink  )

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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24 (edited by azriel 2005-10-07 07:12:04)

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I feel that most of your quote is written in defence and focusing on yourself instead of the concepts, which implies to me that you are personalising the issue. Please read my words which i chose carefully - I am not focusing on you or everything you have said (so there is not need to compare your overall 'message' to that of others) but concepts that you have introduced in one paragraph and giving my opinion, which i have allready stated you may refute as you see fit. Yes Lyra, you didnt like certain *parts* and it was those certain parts that I focused on

I 'focused on your quote' because it was the only one i read that i disagreed/agreed with AND had an opinion to add on, looking back over other people's posts, in reflection perhaps it was also your use of language...most people seem to mention that 'they thought' or 'in their opinion' or something of the like whereas you have used 'you' throughout when referring to emotions evoked which (to me) implies that it is the common experience of the collective - that you are deciding for everybody that the message leaves you 'feeling pretty crappy' and 'kind of hopeless'. Perhaps this wasn't your intent but all im saying is the language gives this inference and was perhaps a trigger to my response and in sight of that I didn't agree that there was no solutions offered or hope inherent, i got the opposite from his overall speech and wanted to say so

The quote is also the only one which mentions emotional reactions so specifically and powerfully and again IMHO, such emotional reactions are the ego talking. Perhaps it would be of use to you to sit back and examine exactly why you got such powerful negative emotions from the article and 'sensitive' about me writing something that disagrees with your views - and again i 'focus' on this because the ego is something of interest to me



Peace

25 (edited by lyra 2005-10-07 08:01:25)

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azriel wrote:

I feel that most of your quote is written in defence and focusing on yourself instead of the concepts, which implies to me that you are personalising the issue.

Indeed, I did!   I'm not going to deny that at all.  I was left wondering, "Hmm, why my post?  What about the others, who are straight out saying they feel that this guy is disinfo?  Why not comment on them?"

azriel wrote:

in reflection perhaps it was also your use of language...most people seem to mention that 'they thought' or 'in their opinion' or something of the like whereas you have used 'you' throughout when referring to emotions evoked which (to me) implies that it is the common experience of the collective - that you are deciding for everybody......

....................What the...?!    How in the world could the fact that The Insiders's post invoked certain feelings within me be construed that I'm somehow speaking on behalf of the collective???    The mere fact that I used the word "me" means just that..........me.   Not the so-called collective.

I would NEVER so much as even HINT that I'm speaking on behalf of the collective.   And if you were to go back over previous posts of mine you would see times when I've called somebody else out for doing that very same thing.  "Speak for yourself!" is a favorite tongue-in-cheek phrase of mine that people can vouch for.   People should always speak for themselves. 


azriel wrote:

that the message leaves you 'feeling pretty crappy' and 'kind of hopeless'. Perhaps this wasn't your intent but all im saying is the language gives this inference...

Well, it obviously gave that impression to you.   And I don't know what to tell you at this point.   You can take my above clarification, or reject it, it's up to you.  But I was NEVER intending to speak on behalf of others.


azriel wrote:

The quote is also the only one which mentions emotional reactions so specifically and powerfully and again IMHO, such emotional reactions are the ego talking.

Well, you know, sorry for the fact that I expressed how I felt.  wink    If you're saying that for someone to express how one feels is simply the ego talking, then sure, fine, I can accept that...........but you really should make sure to tackle every single person on this forum who also expresses how they "feel" about an issue.  They're obviously speaking from the ego as well.   And hell, why just single out lyra for doing that, right?   wink 


azriel wrote:

Perhaps it would be of use to you to sit back and examine exactly why you got such powerful negative emotions from the article and 'sensitive' about me writing something that disagrees with your views -

A.  They weren't as "powerful negative" as you think, but I can understand how my wording may have mistakenly conveyed that, so for that I take responsibility;

B.  Who are to you assume that I *haven't* sat back and "examined exactly why" I got such a reaction?   Maybe I have...?   But am I really supposed to get on here azriel and tell the forum every single thing I do and think?    Give everybody every detailed update of what transpired after I made a post??     To think that I haven't given the Insider's words much thought...and discussion, with Tom in fact....is a mistaken assumption on your part, as well as it being very presumputious to suggest what would be "of use" for me to do. 

C.  I already totally admitted to being a little sensitive....no need to re-point something out that was already pointed out by me in the first place.   I totally admitted that maybe I'm being a little sensitive in that regard.   

And Azriel, how in the frickity frack did this suddenly get spun into me getting sensitive because you "disagreed with my views" ??   Wow.......  I clearly stated in my post that I was sensitive because you seemed to be honing in on my post in particular, instead of everybody else's.  Please go back and re-read my words.   

You know, I'm just left sitting here going "What the f*ck?!"  Seriously, what the f*ck. 

I'm done with this thread, holy schmolies.  Spin it whatever way you want at this point, I'm done here. !  yikes...................................

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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26 (edited by azriel 2005-10-07 08:05:58)

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Wow what HUGE buttons you have!

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-Gives Lyra a big ole hug-

It's okay, Lyra. Really, it is. Calm down now. No, no, put the gun away. Azriel is really a sweet person, and new on this forum, so don't get too carried away defending your position to her. Take a deep breath, and a step back. Now take another look. See, it really doesn't matter, does it? wink

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

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azriel wrote:

Wow what HUGE buttons you have!

-Gives Azriel a big ole hug-

Now now, don't add fuel to the fire here! No, no, you can put your gun down too. We're all friends here, and we're all entitled to our own opinions. It's all okay. Seriously smile

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe

29 (edited by lyra 2005-10-07 08:20:01)

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azriel wrote:

Wow what HUGE buttons you have!

sigh.   

Do I have huge buttons?   Or was your response post off target?   Especially the part at the end where you slipped it in that I was upset because you "disagreed with me."   Damn, people disagree with me all the time, and I disagree with them...it happens, a lot.   So is that the issue here?  No.

It's funny how when people mix stuff up, then somebody tries to clarify, then the person who did the mixing-up just ignores that and goes "Boy, look at your reaction!" while refusing to address the points at hand.   What's that all about, I wonder? 


And Neomatrix...you're right, of course it ultimately doesn't matter........especially when we've got some big events coming up this month, but, that's a topic for another thread I guess.   But damn, there's nothing worse than a good ol' "MISCOMMUNICATION."  !  smile   As far as "defending" goes, maybe I just feel that when a person addresses a post to me, that I should respond.    Hmm, maybe I'm weird for that...?   I don't know.   I guess I could have ignored her post entirely, and just let her have her perception of things without trying to clarify, which would also lead others to think that "lyra" indeed must be coming from that stance, which leads to more misunderstandings.    But I only ignore posts for people I'm deliberately trying to ignore, for whatever reason.   So, I responded.   But then it's seen as defending.   Can't win!   bah.

Alright, for real, I'm done here.  People believe whatever you want to believe....

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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30 (edited by Neomatrix 2005-10-07 08:26:26)

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lyra wrote:

I guess I could have ignored her post entirely, and just let her have her perception of things without trying to clarify, which would also lead others to think that "lyra" indeed must be coming from that stance, which leads to more misunderstandings.

Nah, it wouldn't. Let people believe whatever the hell they want to believe about you. It doesn't matter. Generally, I try not to put myself into positions where I have to defend myself anymore. I used to be really, really bad about that, and it's dragged me into some of the worst arguments of my life. Generally nowadays I just let things slide, because for some reason miscommunications often end up turning into arguments about who started the miscommunication in the first place. And you're right: at that point, you can't win. Bottom line: you're both responsible for the miscommunication, so just leave it be wink

"Fear is the great barrier to human growth. Unknowns create fears. When these Unknowns become Knowns the fears diminish and disappear, and we are able to cope with whatever confronts us." - Robert A. Monroe