Sound Waves: Can we listen to something said yesterday? (Page 1 of 2)

The Benedictine Father Marcello Pellegrino Ernetti (d. 1997) invented a method of recovering sound waves from the past and converting them into visual and acoustic reconstruction of history. Father Ernetti, a professor at the Venetian Benedetto Marcello Conservatory and Fondation Cini (and director of the Italian Conservatory of Religious Instruction for Men), accomplished his research in collaboration with 12 physicists who remain anonymous. In 1956, Father Ernetti began to investigate the possibility of reviewing the past with a television-like device. In 1957 he began collaborating with the Portuguese Professor de Matos, who was researching the same problem.

Fr. Ernetti's theoretical approach was based on Aristotle's concept of the disintegration of sound, according to which light and sound waves do not disappear after being produced, but are transformed in some way and remain present indefinitely. According to Ernetti, sound waves subdivide into harmonics that can be recovered with appropriate instruments.

Fr. Ernetti claimed that "Every human being traces from birth to death a double furrow of light and sounds. This constitutes his individual identity mark. The same applies to an event, to music, to movement. The antennas used in our laboratory enable us to tune in to these furrows of picture or sound."

Fr. Ernetti recovered "photographs" of events such the Crucifixion of Christ, and reconstructed acoustic events such as Quintus Ennius' tragedy Thyestes in the original Latin from a performance in 169 BC. He also claimed to have recovered the original text of the Ten Commandments given to Moses. However, he refused to reveal any details of his invention, and it has been suppressed by the Italian government. He warned that "The machine can produce universal tragedy."

In 1934, William D. Pelley, editor of Liberation magazine, reported on his experiments with a form of time-camera which he called "Ultra-Vision", allegedly developed in collaboration with Thomas Edison and Steinmetz. The apparatus was confiscated by the FBI.

In 1912, Baron Ernst von Lubek published an account of his accounts with trans-time photography. His equipment included a cathode ray tube with lead and dysprosium electrodes, energized by an Oudin coil (a modified Tesla coil).

The Radionic Camera developed by George De La Warr was intended to detect disease by a suitable photographic method. It also is capable of photographing the past and the future. In the opinion of De La Warr, "Time is a vector of the magnetic spectrum and that spectrum has a place in itself for events... There is a pre-physical world in which the camera might be expected to operate."

Ernetti told Brune he had discussed the matter with a number of other physicists. Some of them had been quite interested. Little by little, he had assembled a team of scientists. The team had undertaken to carry out in the utmost secrecy one of the most extraordinary projects ever conceived by the mind of man: to build a machine that could penetrate back into the mists of time and recapture the sights and sounds of mankind's vanished past. Their efforts had not been in vein. They had built the chronovisor. It had extended its sensory apparatus back into the past, and brought back photos and recordings from times which were no longer there.
Peter Krassa, Father Ernetti's Chronovisor

In "The Mysterious Past" by Robert Charroux, pp 253-etc., Padre Ernetti's invention is discussed:

"Recovering the waves of the past and converting them into pictures and sound, has, until recently, smacked of science fiction. But an Italian scientist, the Benedictine Monk Father Pellegrino Ernetti, has achieved this scientific miracle.

Father Ernetti is no visionary or medieval sorcerer, working with magic spells and materializations: He is regarded as a genuine scientist. About fifty, he is an established authority on prepolyphonic music dating from the remotest antiquity to about the beginning of the second millenium A.D. He is professor at the Venetian Benedetto Conservatory and the Fondation Cini, and director of the Italian Secretariat of Religious Instruction for Men.

He carried out his research in collaboration with twelve scientists whom he declined to... It is known, however, that he began as early as 1956 to investigate the possibility of resusitating the past and viewing it on some kind of television machine. In 1957 he made contact with the Portugese Professor de Matos, who, through his own experiments, was to give the pattern of research a new direction.

Professor de Matos was also interested in reproducing the past by some process analogous to television, and based his theories on certain Aristotlian writings concerning the disintegration of sound, writings which probably owed much to the still older theories propounded by Pythagoras.

Father Ernetti's theory was, according to his own statements, based on accepting one of the principles of classical science, which predicated that light and sound waves are not lost after emission but transformed and remain definitely present.

From this it follows that it should theoretically be possible to reconstitute them by restoring to them their original energy pattern. It must be stated that this theory is not accepted by conventional physicists, because Father Ernetti claims that these waves are "inscribed on the astral sphere", a concept which is unacceptable in their eyes.

According to Father Ernetti, however, sound waves, for instance, subdivide into harmonics, ultrasonics, hypersonics, etc., and follow the usual laws of disintegration of matter down to the atomic level and beyond, through to the farthest reaches of the infra-atomic.

With the aid of the "appropriate apparatus", which includes a cathode oscillograph using the deviations of a stream of electrons, it is possible to reverse the process of disintegration and reconstitute the sound wave.

The transformation is possible, it appears, because each constituent of the wave has its own characteristics, a kind of psychic identity, which makes possible the accurate tracing of its source."

For slightly more orthodox persons, would this be, rather than "psychic identity", perhaps "quantum attribute" or "phase entanglement"?-- Especially since the text continues,

"'My Invention', says Father Ernetti, 'has nothing to do with parapsychology or metaphysics. It is pure science!'

The same procedure is used for the reconstitution of light waves: this in fact being the basic procedure since the basis of everything created is light, just as in the Bible!"

(Perhaps, but I even more strongly sense that the philosopher Lucretius and his views may yet have their day here...)

"'Every human being', declares Father Ernetti, 'traces from birth to death a double furrow fo light and sound. This constitutes his individual identity mark. The same applies to an even, to music, to movement. The antennae used on our laboratory enables us to 'tune in' on these furrows: picture and sound'

Physicists will perhaps be unconvinced by such theories, but it is an undeniable fact that Father Ernetii can show 'photographs' of the distant past, and play back voices that have been silent for millennia...

...He has succeeded, for example, in reconstituting in an archaic Latin, the Thyestes, Quintus Ennius' tragedy, which was presented in Rome in 169 B.C. ..."

from: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus … nos10.html

“There were also other mysterious phenomena that I had to deal with. One of them I call the “memory of the field."  Our nature registers and fixes everything that happens around us. It works like a film. When ‘today’ goes in the past, it is possible to retrieve the ‘photographs’ of the past. It is possible to do that, if a camera manages to catch ultraviolet rays, which cannot be visible to human eyes. I invented such a camera. The object-glass is made of pure quartz, which lets ultraviolet radiation run through it without any losses. As it turned out, it is the ultraviolet radiation that carries the images and the information of the past. We have already managed to take some pictures, for example, we photographed several days of World War II. I have a very good picture of two warriors, who aim their looks at the forest. Another picture depicts horsemen wearing pointed hats and holding bows and shields in their hands. There is an image of some leader with slanting eyes on their shields. We have another picture of a mammoth silhouette with big tusks standing against the background of some giant trees. This is a picture of the paleolith era."

read more (pravda, yes, but data is data): http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/02/17/43424.html

This technology and the theory/knowledge behind it is all fine and dandy, but is it really the best or most efficient way of accessing information that is kept hidden from us or recorded at an "earlier" point in "linear time"? If linear time is an illusion, and so is physical reality, then realities that subsume this "virtual world and virtual timeline" (higer densities) would most likely exist outside of time as has been reiterated many times by many people. As such, trying to retrace information in this reality would be very tedious and much less fruitfull compared to simply accessing a higher level of consciousness which exists in "no-time" and "no-space". We must remember that only the Now exists. All exists simultaneously, but because of our mental and emotianal constructs we see it in slide-show fashion. I'd like to express myself more clearly on this so I'll dig up some old notes from a few years back on studies in symbolic anthropology. I still think this hole thread was very interesting and thought provoking, but more along the lines of exposing this reality's structure as similar to a hologram's than in the actual utility of machines that can pcik up vibrations (or changes caused by vibrations) from long ago. Let's keep this thread going.