Re: Mind-Control: Sexual Fantasies

Hi all,

Interesting discussion. Shame I am realy busy nowadays and can't participate as much as I would like. I'll get back to this in due course. In the meantime, here is a discussion with Ra that may give more food for thought. Later...

Love,

Vuyiswa



Ra wrote:

Questioner: We have what seems to be an increasing number of entities incarnate here now who have what is called a homosexual orientation. Could you explain and expand upon that concept?

Ra: I am Ra. Entities of this condition experience a great deal of distortion due to the fact that they have experienced many incarnations as biological male and as biological female. This would not suggest what you call homosexuality in an active phase were it not for the difficult vibratory condition of your planetary sphere. There is what you may call great aura infringement among your crowded urban areas in your more populous countries, as you call portions of your planetary surface. Under these conditions the confusions will occur.

Questioner: Why does density of population create these confusions?

Ra: I am Ra. The bisexual reproductive urge has as its goal, not only the simple reproductive function, but more especially the desire to serve others being awakened by this activity.

In an over-crowded situation where each mind/body/spirit complex is under constant bombardment from other-selves it is understandable that those who are especially sensitive would not feel the desire to be of service to otherselves. This would also increase the probability of a lack of desire or a blockage of the red ray reproductive energy.

In an uncrowded atmosphere this same entity would, through the stimulus of feeling the solitude about it, then have much more desire to seek out someone to whom it may be of service thus regularizing the sexual reproductive function.

Questioner: Roughly how many previous incarnations would a male entity in this incarnation have had to have had in the past as a female to have a highly homosexual orientation in this incarnation?

Ra: I am Ra. If an entity has had roughly 65% of its incarnations in the sexual/biological body complex, the opposite polarity to its present body complex, this entity is vulnerable to infringement of your urban areas and may perhaps become of what you call an homosexual nature.

It is to be noted at this juncture that although it is much more difficult, it is possible in this type of association for an entity to be of great service to another in fidelity and sincere green ray love of a nonsexual nature thus adjusting or lessening the distortions of its sexual impairment.

Questioner: Is there an imprint occurring on the DNA coding of an entity so that sexual biases are imprinted due to early sexual experiences?

Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. Due to the nature of solitary sexual experiences, it is in most cases unlikely that what you call masturbation has an imprinting effect upon later experiences.

This is similarly true with some of the encounters which might be seen as homosexual among those of this age group. These are often, instead, innocent exercises in curiosity.

However, it is quite accurate that the first experience in which the mind/body/spirit complex is intensely involved will indeed imprint upon the entity for that life experience a set of preferences.

Questioner: Does the Orion group use this as a gateway to impress upon entities preferences which could be of a negative polarization?

Ra: I am Ra. Just as we of the Confederation attempt to beam our love and light whenever given the opportunity, including sexual opportunities, so the Orion group will use an opportunity if it is negatively oriented or if the individual is negatively oriented.

Questioner: Is there any emotional bias that has nothing to do with male/female sexual polarity that can create sexual energy buildup in an entity?

Ra: I am Ra. The sexual energy buildup is extremely unlikely to occur without sexual bias upon the part of the entity. Perhaps we did not understand your question, but it seems obvious that it would take an entity with the potential for sexual activity to experience a sexual energy buildup.

Questioner: I was thinking more of the possibility of the Orion group influencing certain members of the Third Reich who I have read reports of having sexual gratification from the observation of the gassing and killing of entities in the gas chambers.

Ra: I am Ra. We shall repeat these entities had the potential for sexual energy buildup. The choice of stimulus is certainly the choice of the entity. In the case of which you speak, these entities were strongly polarized orange ray, thus finding the energy blockage of power over others, the putting to death being the ultimate power over others; this then being expressed in a sexual manner, though solitary.

In this case the desire would continue unabated and be virtually unquenchable.

You will find, if you observe the entire spectrum of sexual practices among your peoples, that there are those who experience such gratification from domination over others either from rape or from other means of domination. In each case this is an example of energy blockage which is sexual in its nature.

Questioner: Would the Orion group be able, then, to impress on entities this orange ray effect? Is this the way that this came about? If we go back to the beginning of third-density there must be a primal cause of this.

Ra: I am Ra. The cause of this is not Orion. It is the free choice of your peoples. This is somewhat difficult to explain. We shall attempt.

The sexual energy transfers and blockages are more a manifestation or example of that which is more fundamental than the other way about. Therefore, as your peoples became open to the concepts of bellicosity and the greed of ownership, these various distortions then began to filter down through the tree of mind into body complex expressions, the sexual expression being basic to that complex. Thus these sexual energy blockages, though Orion influenced and intensified, are basically the product of the being-ness chosen freely by your peoples.

This will be the final question unless we may speak further upon this question to clarify, or answer any short queries before we close.

Questioner: I just need to know then if this works through the racial memory and infects the entire population in some way?

Ra: I am Ra. The racial memory contains all that has been experienced. Thus there is some, shall we say, contamination even of the sexual, this showing mostly in your own culture as the various predispositions to adversary relationships, or, as you call them, marriages, rather than the free giving one to another in the love and the light of the infinite Creator.

Questioner: That was precisely the point that I was trying to make. Thank you very much.

The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Re: Mind-Control: Sexual Fantasies

Thanks Vuyiswa, interesting material.

I have previously come across this concept that homosexuality is "caused" by an entity having many incarnations as the opposite sex and being resistant to the experience of their current gender/sex because of it.  This resonated with me, it made a lot of sense.

As for the last bit about "adversary relationships, or, as you call them, marriages" this has got me thinking a lot lately...

I accept the concept of marriage as two people committing to each other, to building a relationship, understanding, to growing.....but I rarely see marriages that really achieve this.  So many seem to be hiding places, situations where people can just rest and take on restricting roles.

Now, I also understand the concept of "freedom within form" and can see marriage as an example.

Right now I am 30 and I just cannot "see" a marriage in my future.  Some days I feel sad about this, but then I really wonder, is this just my programming?  Is this just because I have fear that I will not have companionship any other way?  Is it some fear of being an old lady, alone, with no one to wash my back in the shower?

I think I'm gonna start a new thread about the marriage question.

33 (edited by Brad462 2005-05-26 19:34:51)

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Keep masturbating everyone its fun!!!

But seriously i wouldnt try 2 awaken the kundalini energy by not masturbating its dangerous , its really hard to suppress the urge to not masturbate i Know this from experience ,if you did try to go without masturbating and without sex once you decide to begin you better damn sure not turn back and then decide to masturbate again cause it will damage you.  I said the word masturbate 5 times hehe.

Re: Mind-Control: Sexual Fantasies

Brad462 wrote:

Keep masturbating everyone its fun!!!

But seriously i wouldnt try 2 awaken the kundalini energy by not masturbating its dangerous , its really hard to suppress the urge to not masturbate i Know this from experience ,if you did try to go without masturbating and without sex once you decide to begin you better damn sure not turn back and then decide to masturbate again cause it will damage you.  I said the word masturbate 5 times hehe.

By not achieving orgasm I might awaken Kundalini?

If I try and fail, what damage will occur?

How long of a try would this damage take to occur, an estimation?

35 (edited by Brad462 2005-05-26 20:21:01)

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"By not achieving orgasm I might awaken Kundalini?"

Yes eventually

"If I try and fail, what damage will occur?"  damage to your spirit/body


"How long of a try would this damage take to occur, an estimation?"

I can only give a very rough estimate id say probablly 1 month -3 months

If you try abstinence you are in for one hell of a ride , will fill like your losing your minding , will be experiencing extreme anxiety , trouble sleeping because the kundalini energy is keeping you awake .

36 (edited by Lakme 2005-05-27 03:22:34)

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Interesting subject, and one I've wondered about myself.  This is an excerpt from an article from the Institute of Unlearning ("Helping Humans Unlearn Since 1998")website --  www.unlearning.org -- on masturbation that is quite relevant to the discussion.

DJ


MASTER-BAIT
Is There An Orgasmic Conspiracy?


Before I take any definitive stance on this issue, it is significant to address just how important this question really is. Sex, like money, is an expression of humanity's potential for creative power. Sex, like money, is also an issue that many people feel a tremendous emotional charge around, mostly in the forms of guilt and shame if there is too much of it and intense cravings of desire if there is a lack of it. Living in a world where sexual expression is severely restricted helps to create a climate of secrecy around the issue. It is no surprise then, that we can wonder if it is truly connected to the conspiracy for power designing events around the globe, which is also shrouded in secrecy.

The answer to this question then is most definitely yes. Sexual energy plays a very important part in the suppression of human consciousness. But then again, so do a lot of things. If we take a step back, we can see that it is not the "thing" or "action" itself that is suppressive, but the consciousness behind the "thing" or "action" that does the suppressing. Once you raise your awareness to a certain level of power, actions that appear similar on the surface can have decidedly different results to one's destiny. The difference lies in the intent.

I will digress just a bit here and note that there are some spiritual teachings that believe that all sexual acts are the root cause, the "original sin", of all human suffering and strongly advocate celibacy as the road to liberation. Perhaps that is a way to the bliss state we all in our hearts desire, and you should follow your heart if that path calls strongly to you. But from an unlearning point of view, I'd like to think that the Kosmos is open to multiple "solutions" as much as it is open to multiple orgasms.

If you will refer back to my earlier editorial, "Sex Magic", you will read there that the occult powers of this world use sex to energize their rituals and enhance their manifestations. This effect is also extracted from us by the corporate wizards, who use sex to sell everything under the stars. We are conscious that they are doing so in most cases, and don't seem to mind the titillation to which we are constantly subjected. This is largely because the run of humans is not aware of how the sexual power works, or what it is ultimately being used for.

As one unlearns more and more, it becomes clear that we are not our bodies, not our personalities, not all of our thoughts nor all of our "minds". We are the "Fifth Element" or "Fifth Sense" animating the mixture of the lower Four Elements and Senses. We come to remember ourselves as timeless, immortal beings, interacting with nature for a myriad of purposes, all of which are the expression of our thinking. This thinking is creating our destiny, whether we realize it or not.

When we masturbate, we are drawing from our "light essence" and sending it out into nature as very powerful creative thoughts. These thoughts will ultimately exteriorize as experienced reality, whether in our lifetime or subsequent/simultaneous ones. Therefore, whoever can strongly influence the sexual desire to a specific end, the more skillfully one or several people can craft the universe of their imaginings. When one ponders this principle, it becomes apparent why so much of our cultural sexual energies are tied up with violence. Someone(s) or Something(s) are getting "their rocks off" on the endlessly repeating, poorly-nutritional quality of human physical expression that we have witnessed for the last few millennia.

Frequent masturbation can and does interfere with the creative process, if the sole desire is for the pleasurable release it brings. Nature is literally sucking the life force from you to use for its own ends, for the human being is the focused (or blurred) lens through which intelligent light operates and nature matter is transformed. A part of the unlearning process, and therefore a component to human empowerment, is learning to focus and channel the sexual energies and bring them into balance.

The rest of the article can be read at: www.unlearning.org/editor65.htm

37 (edited by ermolai 2005-05-28 07:56:08)

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Brad462 wrote:

"By not achieving orgasm I might awaken Kundalini?"

Yes eventually

From what I know and understand the kundalini is a STS manifestation, since it artificially brings lower energy to the top. There is something called the "heart kundalini" that Gnostics referred to but it has nothing to do with sexuality, and such energy originates from the heart chakra. Anyway, no doubt that having sexual release strongly increase your energy. STS-oriented people use it to develop their psychic power, this is no secret. Sex is at the base of all black magick. If you are on the STO path, you'll need to transmute this energy to some higher ideals (ie. you'll need to provide EFFORTS) and closely watch yourself because it's amazing how we can unconsciously create situations to feed some of our desires. Especially for men. It can lead to big traps if you don't watch yourself.

Oh and one information which I find interesting: when you have a sexual relationship with someone, you keep this person's energy with you for 9 months (symbolically). If you have sex with someone else during this time, then you'll not only have to deal with 3 different kinds of energies, but so will your new partner who will receive the energy from your first partner. This makes you think how sexual promiscuity can generate confusion for the soul.

38 (edited by Atlantis 2005-05-31 16:23:44)

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I've just been thinking, sexual behaviour and thus sexual fantasies also are
manipulated by the electro-magnetic ELF-waves these days.

Or .. today's reality is even worse !

The combination of ELF, cell phones and DNA-manipulated junk food probably create horrible new
combinations of dangerous sexual dynamics and with (likely) very unhealthy side effects.

Hmmmmm, how sexy is a Hamburger heated up in a micro-wave oven ?

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

39 (edited by aeara 2005-09-05 07:12:03)

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tillibullu wrote:
manyeagles wrote:

Then one wonders how all this stuff ends up in the food chain-ie. oceans, water supply, metabolites being broken down ect.

Woah, I never thought of this.  That is a very interesting question!

Meanwhile, as for sexual fantasies, I think like any daydreaming fantasies they can waste energy.  Like any opiate, they can delude.  And do those powerful thoughts leave a "plaque" on ethereal levels?

And masturbation?  Wasted energy? 

I have read that this energy is not limitless and that we should preserve it.  I know that many tantric practices involve delayed or avoidance of orgasm in order to conserve this energy.

I want to know more....

well, i did'nt make it through the thread as i ran into the line about "plaque on ethereal levels" - and had to comment.

some of you may know that i started a thread on porno/mastubation. in that thread the main theme was the fatigue that comes afterwards (important caveat tho; fatigue comes even Without spilling anything). but the um, esoteric theme/intent of the whole thing was actually what this thread is about; types of sexual fantasies and their repercussions.
this was what i was really trying to get at.

from my experience, it seems the more crude my fantasies get, the more fatigued and illdisposed i get (at worst, for the next few days). as of recent, i've been seeing figures in my minds eye as well. last week i saw a woman in a royal looking white gown and crown, i think. there was someone before this to...well, they seemed to be monitoring me. they were concerned? about the crudeness of my fantasies (while i was in the middle of them).
i suppose all of this is a reflecton of my own guilt and shame complex...

(but after reading much of the above.)

because of this i did'nt take much stock in this scenario;
but when this ethereal robed lady saw that i was'nt changing gears she felt obliged (this or opportunistic) to insert somekinda implant into my foot.

gee, come to think of it, i did something to my lower leg last week - it's been swollen all this time. i strained it myself tho....but the Timing here is interesting.

just wanted to say i've also been wondering if my/our crude fantasies are a kind of pollution - or worse. this being along the lines of magick. my twisted paranoia tries to tell me that whatever i fantasize strongly about...will try to manifest/play out somewhere.

lately, i've been using a buffer!? instead of Just the fantasy, i put it into a "container"; i pretend i'm watching it on tv or something like that. so my subconscious Knows it's just for fun...

ya know, there's a huge schism "here"; many neopaganized schools say not to disregard the lower natures as it's all a part of god. while the rest say to shun the lower end like the plague...

edit

ha, just read another post in this thread about food. just yesterday i listened to a lecture on energy exchange. he addressed food quality...
briefly; junk food and all the rest of the SAD (As Well As Grafted fruits and veggies! - that is, Anything not Straight from Nature) contributes to a lowering of moralty.
why? because x = 2 of course. no, because (as you can guess) this deficient/processed food lacks the higher frequency energies... so once Again, it's the (ie) lower chakras being fed to the neglect of the higher.
i guess this would be more convincing if you see how the Entire (multidimensional) ecosystem works.
you may've heard this one; the major metals in the earth are like veins (they don't call them this for nothing!). and we a raping the hell out of 'em....

40 (edited by SS Elephant 2005-09-05 08:34:12)

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I recently moved back to live with my family (outta money...welcome to Dick Cheney's America) but I have noticed a dramatic change in my needs for sexual release.  When I was living by myself in NY, it was almost like I was addicted to pornography...now, moving back to my family, I feel no need whatsoever, and when I feel sexual desire I feel no need to view pornography either.

I have no idea what is causing this difference, but I feel being with people who love me (and who I love) is probably my guess.  Acting in a community, sharing, that type of thing.

Your focus determines your reality -- Qui Gon Jinn

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I've been reading a lot of Stuwart Wilde recently and he made a good point about sexual energy.  He says that instead of always releasing this energy throught sex, masturbating etc.. to let the energy flow through you and see where it takes you.  Control the energy instead of turning it into physical pleasure.

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun

42 (edited by lyra 2005-09-06 10:19:55)

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SS Elephant wrote:

I recently moved back to live with my family (outta money...welcome to Dick Cheney's America)

I'm just curious to know why it's "Dick Cheney's" fault that you had to move back in with your parents.  wink
Sorry, that just totally jumped out at me, more so then all the wanker talk.  smile  I don't want  to sound like I'm passing judgment, because your life is your business, but for me, moving back to my parent's has never been an option for me, never never never.   No matter WHO'S the prez and VP.  I couldn't imagine "having" to do that because of the Vice President.  That just doesn't make any sense.  I guess what I'm saying is that one should never blame anybody else for moving back home.  In the end it's always a choice....our choice, and our circumstances that we've created.  Not somebody else's.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: Mind-Control: Sexual Fantasies

ermolai wrote:

Oh and one information which I find interesting: when you have a sexual relationship with someone, you keep this person's energy with you for 9 months (symbolically). If you have sex with someone else during this time, then you'll not only have to deal with 3 different kinds of energies, but so will your new partner who will receive the energy from your first partner. This makes you think how sexual promiscuity can generate confusion for the soul.

Indeed, not only that but having sex with someone who is high on drink or drugs is a big no. A lady i know believes enity attachements are easily passed on during these moments.

Its not like we are fractions of the whole but rather versions of the whole.

44 (edited by SS Elephant 2005-09-06 11:59:03)

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Lyra:

quick answer - that line is a joke from the Simpsons.   principal skinner is stealing computers from a nice private school.  he gets caught by Lisa, who tells him he's stealing, and he responds "welcome to dick cheney's america."

long answer - maybe more relevant in another thread wink

Your focus determines your reality -- Qui Gon Jinn

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SS Elephant wrote:

Lyra:

quick answer - that line is a joke from the Simpsons.   principal skinner is stealing computers from a nice private school.  he gets caught by Lisa, who tells him he's stealing, and he responds "welcome to dick cheney's america."

long answer - maybe more relevant in another thread wink

Oh.  Well.  I don't own a TV, so you know, quoting TV shows goes right over my head.  whoosh!   big_smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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