1 (edited by Atlantis 2004-10-06 02:51:12)

Topic: Mind-Control: Sexual Fantasies

Well, could this issue be the last taboo on conspiracy sites ?

I don't know yet; But I'm more and more realizing that the kind of sexual fantasies people do have, often has to do how they're programmed since their time of birth.

The enormous supply of direct pornograpics is developed to activate all these hidden programs in mostly men to maintain an erotic feeded streamlined "mind-pattern-matrix" in society depending on which parts of society to be controlled.
So, the sexual energies of men are used as a basic fuel for the Matrix-machine, whereby the female energies are used to reflect the Matrix characteristics.

i.e. Also, in additional ways the fantasies can be built in men/women with the help of smells, sounds, food and music, etc for much more complex sexual desires to be implanted in them. As a result these desires are likely matched with a specific fantasy scenario in women/men who are looking for just to realize them. Ahaaaa !! ???

Wow ! Or what the hell .... ? 
I've just had a fantasy about being with a gorgeous well rounded woman, .. got just the idea something artificial in me is activated... and brings me on the question:

Is this really MY fantasy or is this fantasy created and implemented in my personality by a NWO-nurse when I was i.e. 2 years old ?

Just think about it.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

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Indeed I have thought about it....And I have no doubt in my mind that alot of the fantasies people have are not always innate...but influenced by certain forces with an agenda...we know what that is.  This topic ties in perfectly with Lyras previous topic about Feminism and the Agenda the NWO have to make our society genderless.  Lesbianism is something that has been encouraged...through subtle and now not so subtle media driven campaigns to drive a wedge in between men and women who otherwise are not gay.  The fantasies some women have about other women could be influenced ..ie programming.  This does not apply to women who are indeed gay.......

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Well I have to admit that I have some strange fantasies that I have struggled with.  It's like half of me wants a deep romantic, traditional, connected sexual experience of love, and the other actually falls in the other direction to the point of self degradation.  I've thought about the possibility that I may have been mind-controlled or influenced by subconscious messages somewhere on TV (Iwatched a lot of TV over the years) as a young kid.  Here's why I think this may be artificial:  I remember fantasizing about similar themes as a child, like way before the age of 10.  I think it's pretty rare for a child to just come up with something so particular in the sexual arena.  I don't think my parents have anything to do with it either, and sometimes I've thought: well maybe that is just a part of who you are, but I don't know, it just doesn't feel like these desires should be there.

4 (edited by lyra 2004-10-07 10:30:24)

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To answer whether mind control could account for some people's sexual fantasies - absolutely.   Sex is the basic foundation they use for programming, if you read the materials.   Nothing will twist the brain around more than sexual programming.   And in true mind control, ie, Gov't Black Ops stuff, they really do hit "below the belt" so to speak.   There is no limit to how low they will go.    One example offhand would be the programmed sex slaves, ie, "Kittens" whose job it is to well, be a sexual servent.   Self explanatory.   But they are trained / programmed / molded to be that way.  It is not their natural personality, and therefore, those thoughts aren't really their own.   It's only who they are when they're drugged up, under hypnosis, and receiving electro shocks with the prod.    Despite the amnesia they have afterwards, the things they do seep over into their every day "real" world, and take the form of "dreams" and strange thoughts of doing sexual stuff with people they don't know and have never seen before, probably making them wonder if those are their real thoughts and fantasies and dreams.   Probably could be quite disturbing.

On a more general, non-government black ops note, wink  there is every day programming being implemented on the masses via t.v., movies and the media in general.   One theory regarding this which I agree with is that it serves to lower our frequencies and bring out that dark side of us that we all have, and encourage it.   And this is probably due to the polarization phenonmen happening right now, where the good are getting better and the bad are getting worse.   The Powers That Be are probably aware of the Shift and the polarization split and resulting decline in sex drive, and so are trying to get EVERYBODY as preoccupied as possible with sex, since it is the lowest chakra and a base instinct.   They want everybody as low and bad as they can go, sunken to the depths of depravity.   Making the perverse the norm, until regular sex will just no longer do for many out there.    That's why we see what we see nowadays, with porn spams that have the nastiest subject lines you can think of, and with porn being so mainstream.   It's programming, to bring out the worst in you, dredge it up from the depths and fan the flames!   

When you see something over and over again, reiterated and reinforced through the media as being common and normal, then you of course believe that, unless you have some strong counter programming happening with parents who try to steer you in a better direction.  Unfortunately, many kids over the past 25+ years got short shifted in the Good Parenting department and so t.v. and the media were their babysitter, teaching them all they needed to know in the "morals" department.   

My only advise:   If someone finds themselves having unsavory sexual thoughts and fantasies which make them feel guilty afterwards, then make a conscious intent that it stop, and declare that it's not you.   Whatever the source may be -   An entity attachment, 4D STS manipulation, media programming bringing out your dark side, whatever -  if it makes you unhappy, then it's not really you at the core. It's something else, and if you want it to go, tell it to go, and mean it.   If you want it to stop, then make the effort to not view porn on the net, skip the mags, try to wake yourself up from seedy dreams, cause dreams are a BIG avenue for the 4D STS feeders to get you!  Do whatever you can.   It will make a difference.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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very true. i think that theres an infinite number of things that could be sending you (or young people) subliminal messages of a sexual nature. in the covert arena, you have SEX all over the place , in tv shows in commercials and in ads, plus sexy magazines, and then the internet.... whew thats a whole nother ball park. youve got xxx websites easily accesible to anyone who can click a button regardless of age...

its like "they" put all of this out here to pervert everyone. mind you even when honest lawmakers want to put some kind of restrictions to the porno internet industry, congress NEVER PASSES THE LAWS!!! i have followed this closely its happened a few times. like they want to require porno sites to have the extension www.porno.xxx instead of .com or .biz or whatever.... why dont they pass these smart laws that could help minimize the number of kids who are programmed too early to be perverted or to have certain fantasies??

they want us to sway away from true love as much as possible, and they have numerous ways to accomplish that...

good post atlantis its something most dont talk about much.

"...i was taken by the hand, from the ocean to the sand..."
nitin sawhney - 'eastern eyes'

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This has nothing to do with making people genderless, Menses. Lesbianism is not that widespread, depite the image "chic." It's an abuse of the genders, and an abuse of gays as well. It's an abuse of sex. Everyone's sexual fantasies are their own business. Porn is a racket. Free your mind first. Then you won't go near porn.
It's boring and stupid and wrong.

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I also have to deal with rather dark stuff myself. I think it is genetics, and I know that I have chosen to experience this as part of my mission. Since I understood this, I spend less energy feeling bad about it and more trying to understand / integrate / fight these forces. It works. Shame is useless.

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"The Powers That Be are probably aware of the Shift and the polarization split and resulting decline in sex drive, and so are trying to get EVERYBODY as preoccupied as possible with sex, since it is the lowest chakra and a base instinct."

So maybe the FDA approval and release of all those sex performance enhancing drugs is no coincidence, eh.

9 (edited by Atlantis 2004-10-11 14:38:47)

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ermolai wrote:

I also have to deal with rather dark stuff
myself.

Take it easy. I don't think all porn is dark stuff.
And I can enjoy some sexual fantasies (I have a lot of them !, .... hhmm ?!).

What I'm trying to warn is that social trends, TV-programming and hidden messages etc. are forcing to get "fantasies" which are "unnatural", dangerous, violent and complete awfull.

i.e. what about all the piercings in people's bodies ?
Porn or not-so-porn tend to be one big pierced festival.

It's the idea to get the micro-chip implanting socialized.
And ... piercings are metalic .... electronic conductors ... thus helping
the invading of STS-entities.

Let's be honest:

If I have a sexual fantasy; it's not with persons who have piercings.

I think it is genetics, and I know that I have chosen to experience
this as part of my mission.

I can agree with you.

Since I understood this, I spend less energy feeling bad about it and more trying
to understand / integrate / fight these forces. It works. Shame is useless.

Thanks for your explanation. Porn has a function, I agree.

I think that if you have natural healthy fantasies, it's ok.
But we must be aware of the corrupting intensions in society, sexual programming et all these
days caused by dark forces.(.i.e. SM, satanism).

The sexual chakra of people is very vulnerable, I think.

Atlantean Magic: safe, simple and enjoying a good lifetime.

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Just had a thought,

The shift towards all those SSRI's (selective seretonin reuptake inhibitors)-ie. prosac, zoloft, paxil-to name a few, brought up a point.  Point being is that these drugs DO inhibit orgasmic ability to a VERY great degree.  Commercials are just coming out with blurbs about how "their" newest drug of choice does not interfere with such...   Hmm...

It is somewhat disturbing to see how the media is pushing antidepressant medication to the public without offering another treatment modality -there's lot's to chose from, and what may be right for one may not be the best for another.

Then one wonders how all this stuff ends up in the food chain-ie. oceans, water supply, metabolites being broken down ect.

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

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manyeagles wrote:

Then one wonders how all this stuff ends up in the food chain-ie. oceans, water supply, metabolites being broken down ect.

Woah, I never thought of this.  That is a very interesting question!

Meanwhile, as for sexual fantasies, I think like any daydreaming fantasies they can waste energy.  Like any opiate, they can delude.  And do those powerful thoughts leave a "plaque" on ethereal levels?

And masturbation?  Wasted energy? 

I have read that this energy is not limitless and that we should preserve it.  I know that many tantric practices involve delayed or avoidance of orgasm in order to conserve this energy.

I want to know more....

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I think people need to learn self control in general and especially in this area (most definitely myself included). I think there is an appropriateness in its application. I think this being a genetic issue is a cop out, that signifies there is nothing you can do about it.

Peace,
Teddy

"It means the Matrix can't tell you who you are" - Trinity

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T-Ren wrote:

I think this being a genetic issue is a cop out, that signifies there is nothing you can do about it.

Of course we can do something about it. The genetic component is just one part of who we are, the soul being the other one. Our "material side" can be strongly STS but it can be transformed through spiritual work, and in doing so we can learn a great deal and also help others free themselves from these illusions (all is connected).

And remember: we chose our parents!

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Those with a genetic prediposition oftentimes create deeply insightful poetry, art, and screenplays.

If there is no time
      Then you have time for everything.
   You're never in a hurry.
That's true freedom.

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Since I haven't come across a thread here mentioning genetic influence (at least that I can recall) I pressumed (maybe assumed) that it was as the mainstream copout of:

why are you overweight? I'm genetically predisposed to it.(read I have no control over it)

why are you an alcoholic? I'm genetically made that way. (There is nothing I can do to be otherwise)

Why are you poor? Genetically I'm not very smart.

etc,etc. so people just give in because there is nothing they can do about it. That I think is a copout.

Now it appears that the opinion here is that there maybe a genetic predisposition (Jury is out for me on the veracity of this) BUT you can overcome it. This I can believe.

I have no doubt that "genetic predisposition often times create deeply insightful, poetry, art and screenplays." I didn't say anything to the contrary, I just have issues with people using the genetic arguement as a way out for not getting active and taking control of there lives.

Peace,
Teddy

"It means the Matrix can't tell you who you are" - Trinity