16 (edited by lyra 2005-05-16 21:21:33)

Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

agent_slade wrote:

Hi lyra,
My half joking theory I came to while visiting is that everyone in Portland is just a little bit insane but doesn't know it. People have this glassy eyed kind of look. It feels like you're in a David Lynch movie or Dark City or something -- there's something you can't quite put your finger on. If you stay there too long maybe it becomes more like the movie Memento... "I know there something really important that I can't remember, what is it, what is it? *looks at tatoo* oh yeah -- never move to Seattle!" Whew, I almost forgot!

Greetings, agent_slade!  smile

Your words reminded me of the Chuck Palahniuk book I stumbled across the other night at Barnes and Noble: "Fugitives and Refugees:  A Walk in Portland."   Chuck is from Portland, and wrote a book on all the best things to do and see there in Portland.   The title comes from a woman he talked to who said that everybody in Portland is either a fugitive or a refugee.  I seriously almost fell over and squealed out loud when I read that in the store...it's so true!!!    My brother was a fugitive and refugee when he fled to Portland.  I wasn't running from the law like he was, so I was just a refugee I guess. wink     So I think it's safe to say that everybody in Portland besides the white collar corporate types are fugitives and refugees.   So so true.

A link to the book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ … 51-3995003

A link to the book itself, to sample it:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1400047 … eader-link


agent_slade wrote:

Don't get me wrong, I really like it there and am in fact moving there pretty soon.

Well, best of luck to you.   I wish I could visit again, I truly do.  It was the weirdest damn place I'd ever been, and if I had instant teleportation abilities, I'd be there again in a second to visit.  I'd love to poke around that city some more, I would never get tired of it.   I couldn't live there full time, but it's a trippy place to pass through on your way to other places in life.  (although in a way, I already am still there, in the parallel timeline where I took my $3,300 and plunked it down on an apartment downtown and my new life there, instead of taking that money and getting in my car and heading to Florida....parallel timelines, gotta love 'em!)

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Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

I was born in Oregon, but I was raised in California. I've been to 3 different places in Oregon, and each is different.

Ashland isn't really a city, but a large town. It's got some awesome Shakesperian plays in season, so if you want a real treat, if you're there at the right time of year, check out a play called "the Baltimore Waltz" playing there. I saw it half a lifetime ago, and it remains the one show which had me on the ground, tears flowing from cheeks sore from grimacing, while doubled over with laughter. Everyone in California and Oregon knows that Ashland is more a part of northern California than a part of Oregon.

Eugene is strange. It's a college town, but without the fanfare. Very dreary and depressing, but maybe I was just there in the wrong season or something.

Portland is beautiful, but tragic. The vibe in the city is like a newlywed who was suddenly made into a widow. I went to a rave there once, and there was a teenage girl who went in, wrote some stuff on the wall, went outside, and committed suicide with a gun shot to the head. I didn't know it at the time, but I was somehow aware of it on some other level, because I felt a presence at the party that was different and for me, things were never the same.

Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

Hello.

In August I am moving to Eugene Oregon to attend the UoO. At the moment I live in Utah and all that entails...

I was wondering if you had any advice on how I could manage...not to lose my mind or something similiar to that while I was in Oregon?

Thank you for reading that and sorry if I wasted your time.

As The Fallen Fall,
They Shall Rise Again,
As The Phoenix Teaches,
There Shall Be No End.

19 (edited by lyra 2005-07-06 08:43:19)

Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

Gotterdammerung wrote:

Hello.

In August I am moving to Eugene Oregon to attend the UoO. At the moment I live in Utah and all that entails...

I was wondering if you had any advice on how I could manage...not to lose my mind or something similiar to that while I was in Oregon?

Speed traps.   Be on the lookout for speedtraps.  I got pulled over and was given a ticket by a cop in Eugene because the highway goes from being 70 mph to suddenly dropping to 55, and believe me, the cops are parked on the side of the road just waiting for all the people who don't notice this.  What makes it a speed trap per se is that you don't have any warnings of a sudden speed drop - one second it's 70 and the next it's 55, no ample notice of this, there's the cops, just waiting.  In all fairness, I have to say the cop was the nicest cop you could ever have to deal with.   They're just so damn friendly up there.   He smiled and wished me luck in my new life in Portland as he ripped the ticket from the pad.  And he meant it.  He was sincerely wishing me luck.   !

But yeah, it's all about revenue generating.   Oregon is financially in the hole and desparate for money, and so they have made "inventing b.s. revenue generators" into an art form.

Another revenue generator is snow tires / tire chains.  In the winter, sections of the 5 will be shut down and the highway patrol make it illegal to not pass through the roadblocks without chains on your tires.  I know cause...........been there, done that.  I had low profile tires, and chains just don't fit for them.  Had to spend $400 on new tires and chains just to get back into Oregon.  Then when I was literally, waiting in line at the peak of the snowy mountain to pass through the road block, they lifted the chain ban.  waaaamp waaaaaaaaaamp waaaaaaaaaaaaamp waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamp.

Remember too, you can't pump your own gas. It's illegal.  So plan your time at gas stations wisely, because you'll have to sit in lines waiting for the one lone dude who's running around pumping everybody's gas.

There's more too, but can't think of any offhand.   Eugene is different from Portland, like night and day.  I passed by on the 5 but never saw an actual "city" to speak of.   Eugene looked to me like nothing but farmland and some stores.  There was nothing to it.   As I drove up the 5 north I kept waiting and waiting and waiting for cities to appear, but didn't find one until 250 miles into my journey, when I hit Salem, the capital.  "LOOK!!  THEY HAVE A BEST BUY!!!  WOW!!!  IT'S AN ACTUAL CITY!!!!"  But even that is nothing compared to Portland.  So Portland is really it, the one and only true city in a state the size of Germany.  (well, I guess Ashland is a city too.....although it's more like a very large town.)

ps edit...

I would be curious to hear your updates about what life is like for you once you get to Oregon and start school.  What you see, what the people are like, how's the economy, what kind of bizarro rules and laws you hear about, strange weather stuff, just whatever weirdness in general you might encounter.  If you have the time of course.   Try to keep us updated!

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

Yay, I always hated having to drive fast and carelessly! Now the State can make sure I don't!

As for weather all I've heard is it rains alot...which compared to the semi-desert of Utah sounds welcoming to me...(After a while dry/dead shrubs everywhere and sparse trees just gets to a guy)   This will be the first time I lived on the west coast..and I think I've heard there is no sales tax there?

If you'd really be interested I'll point out everything that seems strange to me but I don't think I am as sensative to some things as other people are, not to mention I have spent that last 4 years of my life in Utah and what I've grown acustomed to is likely not that normal either....

Never was a fan of big cities big_smile

As The Fallen Fall,
They Shall Rise Again,
As The Phoenix Teaches,
There Shall Be No End.

Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

Well then, how about a thread about the things you noticed in Utah?  Called "What the *@#! is going on in Utah?!?"  big_smile big_smile  haha  j/k

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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22 (edited by Gotterdammerung 2005-07-07 12:57:28)

Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

Wellll.......there are a ton of Meth labs in Utah...and..uhm you aren't allowed to buy/sell beer on Sunday...There is less alcohol in most beverages because of some law...i.e it takes a lot to get a buzz/drunk (atleast its what I've been told...i don't drink) uhm there are a lot of big families..and i think in the last elecetion the state went 80% Bush...there are 2.2 million people in Utah and 2 million live in the north area where they are all mostly "normal" but about half of the .2 that live in the south are polgymists that live in little polygimist towns with strange names like Orderville, Centerville etc. However I never visted any...and on the fringes of Lehi there is a settlement of Polygmist "plantations" bascially using a loophole a polgymist will have about 7 wives, 6 of the wives work some low paying job, and also they all collect wellfare, while the youngest wife stays home and watches all the children, this way the polgymists..get tons of money even though still all wear like handydown clothes or hand made stuff..

To clearify though, the Mormon Church execommunicates anyone who practices polgymy..these groups are independent of it.. I had one mom and one dad..and 6 younger siblings..


Well hows that?

As The Fallen Fall,
They Shall Rise Again,
As The Phoenix Teaches,
There Shall Be No End.

Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

Ah yes, the polygamy.  That's no surprise there, I expected that.  The Mormons try to play it down, but everybody knows it runs rampant in Utah. 

Actually, I'm more interested in hearing stories about the supposed tunnels and / or bases underneath Salt Lake City, as well as the genealogical database they have as well, which stores information on everybody - and I mean everybody, not just Mormons. 

There's also supposedly some major mind control signals being beamed at the population, of course.  Have read a couple of random personal accounts from people regarding this.

Anyway, that's the kind of stuff I'm talking about, versus low alcohol content in beverages, Mormons, religion and polygamy.  To me that's all standard fare to be expected in Utah.   But we know there's so much more happening.........you just have to start poking around, look up, or even down, if the tunnel stories are to be believed.

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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24 (edited by lyra 2005-07-07 14:50:09)

Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

..........And to inject a little bit of lighthearted but weird humor into this thread, coming to you from Grants Pass, Oregon......

"Man lights himself on fire to propose"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/fire_stunt;_ … NlYwM5NjQ-

"Honey, you make me hot," he told his sweetheart, Malissa Kusiek. "I hope I'm getting the point across that I'm on fire for you."

big_smile  Oh jeez...........don't move to Oregon!   big_smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

I just read the tunnel thing on another forum in this...I never heard about it before but I supose I should go check it out.

Don't know anything about Mind control signals, how would I read them?? As for the genealogical database, i've seen it...uh deals mostly with Baptisums for the Dead...i don't think the info they have is that detailed?

As The Fallen Fall,
They Shall Rise Again,
As The Phoenix Teaches,
There Shall Be No End.

26 (edited by lyra 2005-07-22 22:08:30)

Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

"Oregon Prescription Policy May Set Meth Law Precedent."


If they have their way, you'll now need a prescription to purchase over the counter cough syrup in Oregon...all in the name of preventing methamphetamine production.

"Trying to stem the abuse of methamphetamine, the Oregon Senate will likely vote next week on a bill that would make the state the nation's first to require a prescription for popular cold medicines, which are used to create the illegal drug....."


More testing and pushing the envelope up in no-man's-land......

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/200507 … wprecedent

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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"I get by with a little help from my (higher density) friends."
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Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

Here in Indiana we don't need a script, but there will be an age limit (otherwise you'll need a note) and you will need to show proof of ID when buying OTC cough syrup and allergy medicine (I think).

But hey at least you can still ride your motorcycle without a helmet here.

Peace,
Teddy

"It means the Matrix can't tell you who you are" - Trinity

28 (edited by lyra 2005-07-23 06:33:22)

Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

T-Ren wrote:

But hey at least you can still ride your motorcycle without a helmet here.

That reminds me about how Florida is.......what a relaxed, free and easy state it is.  I was so shocked when I first moved there.  I hadn't realized how many laws and restrictions there were in California until I moved to Florida. 

People packed into the beds of pickup trucks, chugging down the street.  Can't do that in California.  NO riding in pick up truck beds.

People riding around with helmets on.  Can't do that in California.  You can't even ride a BICYCLE without a helmet..........that's how strict they are.

Go to a restaurant and they ask you "Smoking or Non?"  Not in California.  Statewide no public smoking ban.

On July 4th, back yard fireworks shows with lots of things exploding.  Not in Cali, where personal fireworks are illegal.   

A section of Fort Lauderdale beach designated for people's dogs to run around.  Not in California, where they have very strict and highly enforced Leash Laws.

Go to the DMV to change over your driver's license and register your car....you get your new license  in 10 minutes and your plates right then and there.   In California they send you home and tell you it'll be several WEEKS before you receive everything in the mail.  And that's after they made you wait 2, even 3 HOURS in a line that winds its way out the front door, where people were already lined up before the DMV opened in order to snag a choice spot at the front.   In Florida you pick a number and sit down and wait to be called.  (same as Virginia)

In California, car insurance is mandatory before you're even allowed to register your car.  "It's the law."   And they ask for it on demand if you get pulled over.  It's all connected now, one big beaurocratic conglomerate.   

The only thing that was a pain in the arse but which I do actually agree with is the smog check.   If your car doesn't pass smog, you don't get to go.   In Florida you see these old clunkers spewing black smoke everywhere because there's no sort of enforcement for this.   You just don't see that in California.   So that was nice, it pretty much guaranteed you'd never find yourself driving behind a smoke spewer, coughing and gagging and scrambling to roll up your windows.

But yeah, maybe I should give California equal treatment, start a thread about them!  big_smile

"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "Holy shit ... what a ride!"  - Anonymous
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29 (edited by Jezreel 2005-07-31 13:28:32)

Re: What the *@#! is going on in Oregon?!?

Was reading this today, and immediately thought of this thread:

http://educate-yourself.org/tw/franzbardon28jul05.shtml

"Hitler apparently lived for many years in Oregon. Cisco was given a folder by her father, when he was on his deathbed, that included a photograph of her father, Mengele, and Hitler posing together in the Oregon house where Hitler had lived"