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Topic: The Mind - The "Reptillian / Avian" Mind

I practice a lot of mental-acceleration techniques such as image-streaming, photoreading, accelerated reading, field-of-awareness, spatial awareness, brain-wave theory, and etc etc etc. I even add to my regime with the Qigong techniques I keep telling you guys about.

In casschat I noticed a few were worried about such ideas to enhance ones mind. This was due to their belief, that like Don Juan's teaching (Castaneda), our mind is the mind of our controllers. Reptillian.

Yet they also say our mind is half-Reptillian and the other half is Avian.

So by increasing and powering up the mind, perhaps the negative increases in their perspective. Yet I also believe, like everything that exists with balance, the positive increases equivalently.

In "Bringers of the Dawn", which I'm reading, they bring up the theory that the "Original Planners" whom preferred to generate the frequency of love (hence Golden Age) instead of what the MCS controllers generate (chaos, destruction, death). The "Original Planners" designed us, brought us here, and intended Earth to be a "living library". However the medium in which the exchange of information would occur would be through organic-mechanisms of expression (2:22pm), Humanity for instance. 300,000 years ago, the MCS controllers raided earth and has ever since manipulated the living library to be a slaughter-house for  the purpose of food (= an asset for ownership). At the time humans were at 12-DNA (perhaps higher for some like grandmasters) and this allowed awareness and intelligence to be existing on the planet which was a "no-no" for efficient-energy absorption. They needed to control us and make us act and think as sheep. So they de-aligned our DNA and made our system rely on 2-DNA strands instead. Limited awareness = Ignorance = Controlled Slaughter House. "Step into the line and take your place"

So then I come back to my point on the "mind". We originally were designed by the so-called "Original Planners" yet we were manipulated (tweaked) by the MCS controllers. Just like Organic-Portals being manipulated from their natural-purpose, we too have been manipulated away from ours. So if this is so, then by increasing my/our minds speed and efficiency, this is not as negative of a process as the casschat (some) implies. Increasing my mind's levels with whole-brain-sychronization goes hand-in-hand with increasing awareness. That the Reptillian mind can be balanced by the Avian mind, to holistically keep us all in-sync.

Our mind is not designed (at least not originally) for our control as Don Juan implies. It was manipulated to be so, and can/may/will be restored to its original, glorious purpose. (2:33pm) To act as mediums for the exchange of information.

What do you guys think? I had an urge to bring this up. smile

2 (edited by Christine B. 2004-05-14 17:35:03)

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Blackbox wrote:

In casschat I noticed a few were worried about such ideas to enhance ones mind. This was due to their belief, that like Don Juan's teaching (Castaneda), our mind is the mind of our controllers. Reptillian.

It's difficult to comment on something someone said on a forum I'm not part of...as I'm not sure exactly what was said.  However, *if* this is what was said, and the intention was to discourage people from enhancing their mind...then I think "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing."

Perhaps you might like to check out this website which has all of Castaneda's books with ONLY what Don Juan said, rather than all the Don Juan/Castaneda stuff.  It's pretty good, fast reading and would give you,I feel, a better understanding of Don Juan than what seems to be going around on Casschat (from what you've written).

www.prismagens.com/castaneda

I'm not sure which one of Castaneda's books Don Juan mentions the predator having given us their mind, but you'll find it if you read the books from that site.  As they are only Don Juan, they are considerably shorter than the actual book.

Christine B.

3 (edited by BlackBox 2004-05-14 18:14:14)

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That link doesn't work. I'll try it later though.

Christine, I didn't mean to discredit Castaneda or Don Juan. I've read a lot of his material, mostly from Laura's referance in her works. I've enjoyed his simplistic brilliance, if I can be bold enough to label it that.

The main thing I'm pointing out is that Castaneda (Don Juan) may have not have known the vast history of mankind, therefore he wouldn't have been able to hypothesize of what our original purpose was before the fall. Even the C's don't go into the details that the Pleidians do in regards to the "Original Planners". They considered it too complex to be told to the medium. Therefore his description of our mind being the "predator's mind" is based on what it has been tweaked and manipulated to as of late. Originally this may not have been the case, if refering also to Marciniak's literature on the Pleidians.

Perhaps at 2-Stranded DNA, the Reptillian part of our minds is dominant? Or rather dominant until we put our will-power over our emotions and the subtle programming that has taken hold in our lives. Yet I think that once the remaining 10-strands are activated, awareness rises with equivalent Avian-factors/benefits popping up.

Thanks for pointing out the site though. Let me know what link works and I'll definately read up more on Castaneda's literature.

Adonai, Namaste and Kudos! smile smile

4 (edited by Christine B. 2004-05-14 18:49:52)

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BB:
try this:  http://www.prismagems.com/castaneda/

I'm not defending Don Juan or Castenada, merely trying to point out that reading exerpted material can lead to a slanted understanding...as usually the exerpts are used to emphasize or point up a perspective one is attempting to "prove."

At least that's my experience.

It is the internal dialogue that Don Juan is pointing to, to Castenada as being the predator's mind.

The *true mind* is a horse of a different color.  To badly mix metaphors.

Bon soir.
Christine B.

5 (edited by rlha11 2004-06-26 20:14:36)

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Hmm, never read Castenada but Ive always thought of the reptillian as being the most primal portion of the brain. 

"Perhaps at 2-Stranded DNA, the Reptillian part of our minds is dominant?"  Perhaps.. and interesting question,. I consider the reptillian mode of expression to be of a sexual nature. A lower vibration of the body mind.

And I find the raising of the serpent in kudalini meditations offer a path in which you can access that mode of expression/ or vibration in a more direct way.

6 (edited by Torarota 2004-06-22 17:08:12)

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rhla11 wrote:

Perhaps.. and interesting question,. I consider the reptillian mode of expression to be of a sexual nature. A lower vibration of the body mind.
And I find the raising of the serpent in kudalini meditations offer a path in which you can access that mode of expression/ or vibration in a more direct way (...)
It will also create intense erotic feelingsss and other exhilirating sensationsss.  Enjoy

Yes, raising the reptilian energy is kinda cool, isn't it? I won't try this though becoz then It'll take me hours to cool down and I don't wanna be running after innocent mini-skirts wearers all evening...
I think I'll just do Pranayama instead! Thanks for the tip anyway!

"He simply said: Laianela"

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So do you all think kundalini is linked with reptilian energy? I've read much texts praising the rising of the kundalini, saying it was a more direct path to "enlightment" (anything promoting "spiritual shortcuts" is suspect in my book). Thinking in particular about Sahaja Yoga (http://www.sahajayoga.org). Do you think it's a trap setup by our friends the lizzies?

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Kundalini and reptilian energy?
Erm...
What I can say for sure is that I agree with you on this:

ermolai wrote:

"I've read much texts praising the rising of the kundalini, saying it was a more direct path to "enlightment" (anything promoting "spiritual shortcuts" is suspect in my book).

I think I might start a thread on psionic devices at some point.

"He simply said: Laianela"

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Re: The Mind - The "Reptillian / Avian" Mind

Anything can be a spiritual shortcut if you do it at the right time in the right way with the right state of mind (right being a relative term here, not a definitive). ^_^ The problem with people who speak of ways of enlightenment is that they are speaking usually of some event or events that brought to them a profound shift in consciousness and/or understanding.. and not everyone can use the same method to achieve that state of change/being.

10 (edited by Torarota 2004-06-23 18:07:29)

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UnbiddenTruth wrote:

Anything can be a spiritual shortcut if you do it at the right time in the right way with the right state of mind

It's precisely the "rightness" of shortcuts that we were questioning here. I feel both ermolai and I were referring to "Become telepath in 10 days"-type of teachings.

UnbiddenTruth wrote:

The problem with people who speak of ways of enlightenment is that they are speaking usually of some event or events that brought to them a profound shift in consciousness and/or understanding.. and not everyone can use the same method to achieve that state of change/being

Agreed, hence the value of designing your own system/reality as even the best system ever will not be YOURS and can therefore be restrictive for YOU.

"He simply said: Laianela"

11 (edited by rlha11 2004-06-23 20:16:35)

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Dudes, what excatly is spirituality. All things ? certain thing? Ive really had a hard time grasping anything as spiritual.  Dunno, lately it seems to me that as I learn there is less desire to call things spiritual, or say enlightenment. I can define experience as spirituality but Im not going to, it doesnt feel like Im any more enlightentened or spiritual  than anyone.

Tararota "Agreed, hence the value of designing your own system/reality as even the best system ever will not be YOURS and can therefore be restrictive for YOU."

If I design my reality as the best system ever, it will be. How is that not mine and resticting my flow, it seems more liberating and maybe one of the best attitudes to have!

UnbiddenTruth wrote:

The problem with people who speak of ways of enlightenment is that they are speaking usually of some event or events that brought to them a profound shift in consciousness and/or understanding.. and not everyone can use the same method to achieve that state of change/being .

:)Shows you the highly individualized experience of all .




Ok my views on kundalini,
Look at kundalini, an expression of energy, look at the visual meditation, raising of energy from your reproductive organs up the spine, under the top of the skull and out the nose, notice the path, :its a serpent being charmed . the motion  can only be called snake-like the energy expressed can only be called sexual, So there is a connection there to reptiles, and reptiles may be defined as being primal. In my belief based on my experience this energy is not outside myself, there are no forces at work manipalting me, I am the force that manipulates myself. Ie, there are no outside influences effecting of me unless I decide to let them.

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rhla11 wrote:

If I design my reality as the best system ever, it will be. How is that not mine and resticting my flow, it seems more liberating and maybe one of the best attitudes to have!

One day, aged 21 or so, I had a very interesting perception, that one was chemically induced (Has anybody seen Timothy recently?... lol).

The idea was that IF an individual was able to design a PERFECT system of Reality (perfect meaning that there are no "gaps" in it), and EVEN if the said reality was TOTALLY at odds with the one of the whole  community, world, even the whole specy , then the individual would be able to function within that system (and through it) at leisure, for however long and however it wished. We all attempt to do this on a daily basis and life after life, most of the time without even knowing it. The only problem is that designing such a perfect system is a rarity, let alone designing a totally unique one.
The individual accomplishing this little feat would be deserving of being called a god or an entity (in the purest sense of the word).

rhla11 wrote:

raising of energy from your reproductive organs

Are you sure it is not being raised from the base chakra (bottom of spine) rather than the sacral chakra (sexual organs)?

"He simply said: Laianela"

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ermolai wrote:

Do you think it's a trap setup by our friends the lizzies?

Raising the kundalini prematurely is tempting. I was interested about it a month ago when it dawned on me that I would be encouraging something that naturally occurs if you simply develop your bioelectric circuits, naturally and patiently. You start with your minor chakras, then your major chakras, and a kundalini experience may result naturally or quite easily by command if you seek it.

From what what I've read, prolonging the kundalini-rise is when enlightenment comes. The longer you hold it, the further the elaboration on the experience. The new-ager's say it awakens 'christ-consciousness'.

Personally I don't think it's a 'trap setup by lizzies'. The human-body wasn't designed by them. It's a trap to manipulate our bodies into 'short-cuts' which one of the many "I's" of our being is perhaps not ready for.

14 (edited by ermolai 2004-06-25 12:58:42)

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Our body wasn't designed by them but it was apparently manipulated by them.

Anyway, the more time goes, the more the idea of finding "enlightement" through esoteric techniques seems ridiculous. Maybe we should define just what "enlightment" is!? I feel that for some it consists of making their ego the size of the universe, dressing in some strange costume, spending 15 hours a day meditating and talking to disciples about "love and light" with lots of nice fuzzy words. How's that for a spiritual life?

Sorry I'm being sarcastic. And maybe paranoid as well.

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heh, thats not entirely sarcastic..:)

What im saying Tarotoa, is that if you believe your reality to be the best, what do you have to compare it to,... someone who you think is having a shitty life? someone with what you think as having a better life?  Thats an outside perspective of another individual.  Maybe the person who you think of as having a shitty life, though to  them it is the best they are capable of.  It all lies in the definition of best as relative to each person, i suppose.


At the base of the spine is where the reproductive organs are, right?  Know that there are many systems each with their own unique interperatation of where the energy centers are located.  A simple issue of logical semantics.

I dont understand how you may think doing this is a premature thing or a shortcut.  It wont get out of control, you wont rape anybody.  If you have had an orgasm then your ready, in my opinion.