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Bhang,
In case you aren't aware of this, part of your In or Out thread was posted on this site months ago by Aldebaran (you remember Alde from Etem, right?). Follow this link to see:
http://noblerealms.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=1080
I just tripped over it today and thought I'd mention it.
Lyra wrote: "I'm not understanding how this is proof of our lettering system being of a higher design.
Whether you assign numerical values to the numbers via the traditional method, (as outlined earlier in the thread ) where it's 1 - 9, or, you give them 1 - 26, the reason it breaks down the same way is because 1 = 10, 2 = 1, 3 = 12, 4 = 13, etc. etc.
The 1 - 9 method is just a shortcut method of the longer method. Someone figured out that you can just go up to 9 and get the same results, because 10 -18 and 19 - 27 and 28 - 36...etc. etc...break down the same way.
So while I don't dispute that there's hidden numerical meaning in the titles and phrases you've mentioned, I do question the lettering system itself being of higher design. You could insert any alphabet into the 1 thru 9 method and have it still work out the same way as the 1 thru (whatever total number of alphabet letters). And as far as the numbering system is concerned, the 1 - 9 method is just a clever shortcut to that."
When I say higher intelligence, I mean that our alphabet is set up in such a fashion, as to give VIRTUES to letters through Numbers. Coded letters basically.
I quote Sir Henry Agrippa,
"Severinus Boethius saith, that all things which were first made by the nature of things in its first Age, seem to be formed by the proportion of numbers, for this was the principall pattern in the mind of the Creator. Hence is borrowed the number of the Elements, hence the courses of times, hence the motion of the Stars, and the revolution of the heaven, and the state of all things subsist by the uniting together of numbers. Numbers therefore are endowed with great and sublime vertues. For it is no wonder, seeing there are so many, and so great occult vertues in naturall things, although of manifest openations, that there should be in numbers much greater, and more occult, and also more wonderfull, and efficacious, for as much as they are more formall, more perfect, and naturally in the celestialls, not mixt with separated substances; and lastly, having the greatest, and most simple commixtion with the Idea's in the mind of God, from which they receive their proper, and most efficacious vertues: wherefore also they are of more force, and conduce most to the obtaining of spirituall, and divine gifts, as in naturall things, elementary qualities are powerfull in the transmuting of any elementary thing. Again, all things that are, and are made, subsist by, and receive their vertue from numbers. For time consists of number, and all motion, and action, and all things which are subject to time, and motion.
Harmony also, and voices have their power by, and consist of numbers, and their proportions, and the proportions arising from numbers, do by lines, and points make Characters, and figures: And these are proper to Magicall operations, the middle which is betwixt both being appropriated by declining to the extreams, as in the use of letters. And lastly, all species of naturall things, and of those things which are above nature, are joyned together by certain numbers: which Pythagoras seeing, saith, that number is that by which all things consist, and distributes each vertue to each number. And Proclus saith, Number hath alwaies a being: Yet there is one in voyce, another in the proportion of them, another in the soul, and reason, and another in divine things. But Themistius, and Boethius, and Averrois the Babilonian [Babylonian], together with Plato, do so extoll numbers, that they think no man can be a true Philosopher without them. Now they speak of a rationall, and formall number, not of a materiall, sensible, or vocall, the number of Merchants buying, and selling, of which the Pythagoreans, and Platonists, and our Austin [Augustine] make no reckoning, but apply it to the proportion resulting from it, which number they call naturall, rationall, and formall, from which great mysteries flow, as well in naturall, as divine, and heavenly things. By it is there a way made for the searching out, and understanding of all things knowable. By it the next access to naturall prophesying is had: and the Abbot Joachim proceeded no other way in his Prophecies, but by formall numbers."
The fact that it works the same with 1-9 or 1-26 is just a nice coincidence? Or higher thinking by human or 4D kind? We must remember (or research) how mystical these things (creating language) can be. Like Hebrew text, English lettering has mutiple meanings. Have you ever wondered why the letter A is like a triangle? Or the letter O is a circle? Do you actually think that some person just sat down and overnight and had made a new alphabet?
Nay I say. There is much, much more to the story of letters, words and numbers.
When I say higher intelligence, I mean that our alphabet is set up in such a fashion, as to give VIRTUES to letters through Numbers. Coded letters basically.
Okay, true, that does make sense.
But....
Your original point was to marvel at the fact that whether it's 1 - 26, or 1 - 9, the letters still break down the same. That's what I'm talking about here. You said "There is something more to numerology!" I'm saying: Of course they break down the same! Because 10 - 18 breaks down to 1 - 9, just as 19 - 27 does, and 28 - 36 does...........etc.
The fact that it works the same with 1-9 or 1-26 is a nice coincidence
The 1 - 26 discovery isn't a "coincidence"......it's the properties of numbers. It's math. The 1 - 9 method is simply a shortcut. You can use either...with any alphabet..... it doesn't matter.
I'm not trying to burst any bubbles......again, it's good that there's somebody out there noticing the stuff they flaunt in front of our faces. Most people would look at the O11 and O12 posters and just see a movie poster, nothing more. You however noticed the occultic colors, the double meanings, and even sleuthed out the hidden numerical values of the words and phrases, so that's cool. I'm just nitpicking the 1-9 versus 1-26 comment, that's all. 
So why pick 26 letters?
If Z=26 and *=27 and ^=28, the 1-9 system would not work the same.
I'm just pointing out that there is a number game within the alphabet....
I did not mean to "prove" it.... that's why I used parentheses. I'm anything but a math wiz.
So why pick 26 letters?
If Z=26 and *=27 and ^=28, the 1-9 system would not work.
Okay, I'm not following you here. Why / how would the 1 - 9 system not work then?
You could have infinite letters in an alphabet - Let's pretend our alphabet has in fact, 150 letters. You could assign numerical values to them indefinitely and it would still add up the same.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
A B C D E F G H I
J K L M N O P Q R
S T U V W X Y Z *
^ ! @ # $ % & ? <
, > / " : ' { ] ;
So, using our fictitious alphabet listed above, ! is the 29th letter, 2 + 9, which breaks down to 11, or 1 + 1 for 2, and it happens to line up underneath...............the number 2. & is the 34th letter, which breaks down to 7, and it happens to line up underneath........7. : is the 41st letter, which breaks down to 5, and it happens to allign underneath the number 5.
The 150th letter, which breaks down to 6, would thus allign under the number 6.
It all breaks down the same. So, the 1 - 9 system most certainly DOES work, and I think you're very mistaken.
Bhang {inserts} foot into {mouth}.....
thank you for that... despite my hurt for being 'not so smart as I think I am' I say thank you for clearing that up...
I know more about the virtues of number than the application of number...
thanx and sorry.
I know why I was confused now...
The number 11! I've read in more than one publication that the number 11, being the first number of sin, or imperfection, is not reduced to the unity of 2. So all numbers that add to 11 are to be left alone. I'll get more info on that, I promise.
Untill then more words from Sir Henry Cornlius Agrippa, on the number 11:
"The number eleven as it exceeds the number ten, which is the number of the commandements [commandments], so it falls short of the number twelve, which is of grace and perfection, therefore it is called the number of sins, and the penitent. Hence in the tabernacle there were commanded to be made eleven Coats of hair which is the habit of those that are penitent, and lament for their sins, whence this number hath no Communion with Divine or Celestiall things, nor any attraction, or scale tending to things above: neither hath it any reward; but yet sometimes it receives a gratuitous favor from God, as he which was called the eleventh hour to the vineyard of the Lord, received the sanne reward as those who had born the burden, and heat of the day. Now the number twelve is divine, and that whereby the Celestials are measured; it is also the number of the Signs in the Zodiack over which there are twelve angeis as chief, supported by the irrigation of the great name of God. In twelve yeers [years] also Jupiter perfects his course, and the Moon daily runs through twelve degrees. There are also twelve chief joynts [joints] in the body of man, viz. in hands, elbones [elbows], shoulders, thighs, knees, and vertebrae of the feet. There is also a great power of the number twelve in divine mysteries. God chose twelve families of Israel, and set over them twelve Princes; so many stones were placed in the midst of Jordan, and God commanded that so many should be set on the breast of the Priest; twelve Lyons [lions] did bear the brazen Sea that was made by Solomon: there were so many fountains in Helim, and so many spies sent to the land of promise, and so many Apostles of Christ set over the twelve tribes, and twelve thousand people were set apart and chosen; the queen of Heaven crowned with twelve Stars, and in the Gospel twelve baskets of the fragments were taken up, and twelve Angels are set over the twelve gates of the City, and twelve stones of the heavenly Jerusalem. In inferior things many breeding things proceed after this number; so the Hare and Coney being most fruitfull, bring forth twelve times in the yeer [year], and the Cammel [camel] is so many moneths in breeding, and the Pea-cock [peacock] brings forth twelve Eggs."
Ocean's Twelve SoundTrack Listings
1. Gianni Ferrio - L'Appuntamento
2. David Holmes - $165 Million + Interest [into] The Round Up
3. Roland Vincent - L.S.D Party
4. David Holmes - Lifting The Building
5. David Holmes - 10.35 I Turn Off Camarra 3
6. Piero Umilani - Twilight On The Sea
7. David Holmes - What R We Stealing
8. Dynastie Crisis - Faust 72
9. David Holmes - Stealing The Stock [into] Le Renard de Nuit
10. David Holmes - 29-7-04 The Day of
11. Yellow Hammer - Lazy 9
12. John Schroder Orchestra - Explosive Corrosive Joseph
13. David Holmes - Yen On A Carousel
14. David Holmes - The Real Story
15. Grusin Orchestra - Ascension to Virginity
16. David Holmes - Three 8 Bar Drum Loops (Hidden Track)
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Btw, Bhang, you'll just love the colours on his home page!!!
http://www.davidholmes.tv/
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Feb 1, 2005 12:00 PM
DAVID HOLMES
Ocean's Twelve (Warner Bros.)
Bigger Rat Pack sounds from Belfast DJ and producer
Matching clichéd groovers with rare '70s European tracks, David Holmes' Ocean's Twelve is a better showbiz production than the original. Using a core of New
York musicians called Boomish, Holmes' tracks recall the mad interludes of an Austin Powers movie, as well as the funky drums, boogaloo brass and day-glow
guitars straight out of Broadway musical Hair. “7/29/04 the Day Of” and “$165 Million + Interest” are drivel but no doubt fulfilled soundtrack needs.
Better are Latin-tinged tracks “The Real Story” and “Lifting the Building,” which recall edgy soundtrack composers Lalo Schifrin and Elmer Bernstein.
The songs by other artists give Ocean's Twelve true depth. Holmes has always been inspired...
http://remixmag.com/mag/remix_cd_reviews_23/
Holmes has an impressive discography, yes.
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Now, SEE this link ---- (here's how I got to it: googled that date of July 29, 2004, then looked at random site offerings, and looked for the number 165, and
lookee what came up??? Federal Reserve. $165 million borrowed during the week of July 7. Weird or not, I have no idea. But it certainly is COINCIDENTAL, given the names of those 2 songs from O12. Yes?)
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/ … 729/h3.pdf
Follow that pdf link to see better, for yourselves. This HTML version does not copy well as you can see!
FEDERAL RESERVE STATISTICAL RELEASE
H.3 (502)
Table 1 For Release at 4:30 p.m. Eastern Time
July 29, 2004
AGGREGATE RESERVES OF DEPOSITORY INSTITUTIONS AND THE MONETARY BASE
Adjusted for changes in reserve requirements(1)
Seasonally adjusted unless noted otherwise
Millions of dollars
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Reserves of depository institutions Borrowings of depository institutions from
the Federal Reserve, NSA
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Date total(2) non- required excess Monetary total primary secondary seasonal
borrowed(3) NSA(4) base(5)
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Month(6)
2003-June 42348 42186 40485 1862 702786 161 87 0 74
July 43314 43183 41379 1935 705363 130 21 0 110
Aug. 45581 45252 41814 3767 710239 329 168 15 146
Sep. 44289 44109 42779 1510 712123 181 23 0 158
Oct. 43394 43287 41921 1473 715834 107 13 0 94
Nov. 43034 42966 41544 1489 718967 68 25 0 43
Dec. 42827 42781 41788 1038 720964 46 17 0 29
2004-Jan. 43152 43046 42253 899 722554 106 93 0 13
Feb. 42916 42874 41715 1201 724094 42 28 0 14
Mar. 44612 44561 42854 1758 725672 51 23 0 28
Apr. 45591 45505 43836 1755 728748 86 29 0 57
May 45353 45242 43761 1592 732303 112 9 0 103
June 45917 45737 44084 1833 737782 180 40 0 140
2 weeks ending(7)
2004-May 26 44591 44480 42930 1661 732387 112 3 0 109
June 9 47002 46860 45413 1589 736797 143 20 0 123
23 45340 45157 43407 1933 735839 183 44 0 139
July 7 45675 45452 43729 1945 742935 223 59 0 165
21p 45088 44847 43713 1375 745097 242 40 0 203
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I was debating whether or not to post this song's lyrics. Don't want to detract from the thread (which I appreciate mucho) but decided to post cuz because
the song is called "Are you in or out". From the Disney/Alladin flick. Well, here goes nuthin'...
I remember a time
When crime was sublime
There was plenty of loot in the lair
We'd plunder and pillage
And ransack a village
With nary a worry or care
Then along came this king
With his soft-hearted dream
But he ratted us out in the end,
So rally the troops!
We were meant to regroup
And return to our roots once again!
Are you in or out?
Gotta know without a doubt
I'm the one you need for a dirty deed
I'm the best, success is guaranteed
Are you men or mice?
Take a slice of my advice!
You want a fearless leader, one that's strong and stout?
Better vote for me
Are you in or out?
We used to be smart, yes,
Horrendously heartless
In ravaging raids, we were rough
We knew what we had
To be blissfully bad;
Then Cassim brought this sensitive stuff!
And we strayed from the path
Of our rigorous wrath;
Now we're taking a bath in the dust!
But we'll reclaim our winnings,
Our humble beginnings,
In turmoil and torture we trust!
Are you in or out?
Double-crossers or devout?
Put your faith in me,
Pretty soon you'll see
I'm the prince of generosity
Are you foe or friend?
Here's the path I recommend
You want a ride to fame?
I've got the fastest route;
What's it gonna be?
Are you in or out?
We'll go robbing in all the right places,
From Agrabah dunes to Bali
Imagine the fear on their faces
When we drop by for cookies and tea
Come along, boys!
Follow me!
Are you in or out?
If you're with me, give a shout (YAY!)
I'll lead you all the way,
Into the glory days
We'll begin a life of crime that pays
Are you out or in?
Make your choice now, sink or swim!
You can stick with me, or stay behind and pout
What's it gonna be?
Consider carefully.
Are you in or out?
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Btw, I don't have any of these songs. Found all info on the net.
Finally, I hope that Explosive Corrosive Joseph referred to in song #12 on the O12 soundtrack is not Joseph Ratzinger, the new pope. 
Chilling to say the least.... give me some time to absorb all of this....
"In turmoil and torture we trust"...?
Bhang wrote:
So why pick 26 letters?
Lyra replies:
"Okay, I'm not following you here. Why / how would the 1 - 9 system not work then?"
Bhang responds:
I know why I was confused now...
The number 11! I've read in more than one publication that the number 11, being the first number of sin, or imperfection, is not reduced to the unity of 2. So all numbers that add to 11 are to be left alone. I'll get more info on that, I promise.
"Master numbers: The Master Numbers are the numbers 11, 22, and, in
rare cases, the number 33. (Note: Some numerologists believe that the
numbers 44, 55, 66, 77, 88, and 99 are also Master Numbers. However,
the Master Numbers 11, 22, and 33 form a triangle that represents
potential mastery. The number 33 in the top depicts enlightenment. The
numbers 44 and up have no place in this triangle, and should be reduced
to single digits).
The Calculations
Basic numerology from:
http://www.path-with-heart.com/numerolo … tions.asp:
"Your life has a unique meaning and purpose. There has never been any one like you before, and there never will be. You are a unique miracle of creation. It is true that most of us wander through life, blown around by the winds of change. Once we know why we are here and what we need to do, it is a lot easier to point ourselves in the right direction.
When we calculate the number totals in numerology, it is helpful to do
it a certain way. The reason is to make sure we don't miss any hidden,
yet vital numbers. This is important for finding the Master Numbers, 11
and 22. Additionally, it is crucial that we know which compound, or
double digit numbers, the final, single, digits are derived.As you work your way through the calculations, you'll occasionally
encounter the caveat symbol. It's there to help you avoid making some
fundamental mistakes as you begin your journey into the world of numerology."The How-to of Fadic Addition
When I first heard of "Fadic Addition," I assumed it must be
complicated, since it had a high faluting name. Well, it isn't.
The word Fadic probably stems from the old English word Faed, which
means "to reduce." Fadic addition means taking a series of numbers and
adding them together repeatedly until a single digit between 1 and 9 is
arrived at. Fadic addition is done from left to right. For example, the number
196352 is reduced to its single digit this way: 1+9+6+3+5+2 = 26 = 2+6 = 8.The final result in a fadic addition is usually written as 26/8 - showing that the single digit 8 came from the compound, or double digit number of 26. This makes the final 8 distinct in that it came from 26 (2+6), as opposed to coming from 17 (1+7), or 35 (3+5), or 44 (4+4), or 53 (5+3) and so on. Even while "8" stands on its own as the final number, the double digit or "compound" number it comes from tells us a
lot of what we want to know about the nature of the final "8."
This process holds true for all the other numbers, as well.
This is from:http://www.thedreamtime.com/spirit/numerology.html
"Numerology, the science, is based on the understanding that each number has an inherent vibration which provides the key to greater self awareness. This 'vibrational quality' of each number originated before an alphabet was created! When sounds were originated, they were originally assigned a number as a way of counting - eventually this numbering system was used by the Babylonians: King Sargon II, who ruled Babylonia in the 8th Century BC used the numerical value of his name to determine the length of a wall in the city. Hebrews applied this method to one of their first alphabets. Through this way of applying sound and number they were able to determine that by adding the numeric values of letters and words together they could create values that equaled the 'vibration' or 'quality' of the actual letter or word that was being spoken. This method was eventually named Gematria: "a system for discovering the true and hidden meaning of words, using numbers and letters of the alphabet. The numerical values of the letters of words are added together, and then interpreted according to other words with the same numerical values", from Harper's Encyclopedia of Mystical and Paranormal Experience."
Hi Bhang,
When I first started learning numerology (back in highschool) I do indeed remember reading that the master numbers (11, 22, 33) are not broken down. But strictly speaking math-wise, (forgetting esoteria) when you break them down like any other number then the 1 - 9 method works out the same. When you think about it, who assigned those esoteric magical properties to "11", "22" and "33" anyway? All this talk of being "master numbers"........but why?? That's what I want to know. (hey, maybe we could have a numerology thread, where we could learn about it all.....) I'm sure there's some story behind who thought they were special and why, but again, strictly mathematically speaking, they're just numbers when you think about it, numbers which break down the same as all the others.
Anybody up for a numerology / kabbala type thread, to get into this more? Sounds like a cool idea to me....
I think it is a great idea!
impatiens,
Translation of Appuntamento* = Blind Faith.
*From Ocean's 12 Soundtrack listing (Track1).
I like the sound of a numerology topic - got a couple of books on it, and have done some studying - but only scratched the surface really.
Would love to learn how to use it properly, and find the hidden meanings of numbers / language of numbers ...
Track 10: "David Holmes - 29-7-04 The Day of"
29-7-04 = 22! Master number. Not to mention half of that 22 is upheld by the twin ones! 2+9=11.
The flags flew at half mast for 11 days after 9-11.
Flight 11.
110 stories! (multiple of 11)
Twin or 11 !
I really believe I'm on the right track here people!
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