Lies in the buddhist belief system (Page 2 of 2)

I agree that the interpretation and resulting so-called "cores" of religions have been corrupted over time. The actual core ideas have not been proven corrupted to me yet, and I don't think they can be, because the truth is incorruptible. Its based on a spiritual interpretation, rather than a material one.

Alot of good people are involved in these religions. Mormonism is based upon the beliefs of one of their own "prophets" and is to me an opposition of what I consider Christianity.It's founder was not a good man by any stretch of the imagination.

To me, the first shall be last and the last shall be first. In other words, the current lowly members of these Christian religions will step forward and reconcile science, religion, and aliens, due to a deep and true essential understanding and non-violent yet pragmatic spirituality (which Christ intended in my view.) Those who are currently running the show in self righteous violent opposition are not going to the front of the line, to say the least.

In some parts of the world, those who profess Christianity are being killed for it.
Here, anyone who is not the leadership's version of Christianity is killed or stopped.
I suspect they are just mouthing the words and saying they are Christian, when in reality they are organic portals and/ or Satanists. I did not used to believe that a Christian could be treated this way, as I thought it wouldn't happen to a mainstream religion. But if Jesus were here to today thise same preachers would do all over again what they did before. It's all about saying, Oh, yeah, I'm a Christian.
Then when you talk to these types all they can do is parrot some preacher or quote the Bible verbatim without any understanding of what they are saying. That's why Jesus said that those who make a big show of praying before others would be preceded into heaven(my view of heaven is not as a place, but a state of being)by the harlots. We must always remember to keep a historical context to these things, because otherwise we risk looking at the Falwell's of this world as some sort of example.

Even milder Christian groups are watching as their leaders spend their donations on the New World Order. Some people have killed themselves because of these things. We are told they killed themselves, anyway. But how do we really know?

This it seems to me has more to do with worldly power, intelligence, technology and hoarding it versus sharing it. This is due to ignoring what the sages have said or simpletons and folksy charlatans being given power, due to believers certainty of being killed if they "call it like they see it." Then these horrible beings laugh all the way to the bank in their shrouds.

Thanks for that piont, ermolai. I'm not certain about o.p.'s either, for the same reasons you mentioned, and others. Perhaps though, they are more attracted in general to situations (like politics) where sincere people don't go as often. There they can blend in more seamlessly with the ways and means that prevail, and go undetected....perhaps Tom has something to say about this.

On the other hand I can think of some "evangelists" I've bumped into who dispayed all the characteristics of organic portals in conversation...but it's more of an attack they did on me than a religious debate, and they did not seem like they had broken souls to me. It seemed more like they lacked souls, looking back.It's the oddest sensation they give off, as if they are hostile, and would kill you if they could, but cannot due to the laws of freewill, which they cannot violate. They try to get you into a debate so they can trick you into doubting your convictions and succumbing to a mechanical part of yourself. This is bound to get you to violate your own freewill, by forgetting you even have it. They are so busy attacking you and your soul that you may revert to the primal or mechanical just to deal with them. This is what they are hoping for, but they can't suceed when you see their ploys. Perhaps they are the ones who break people souls? So that people don't even try anymore. There are parts of America swarming with these people.

Some thoughts to bounce off of....

Here are some beautifully thought out paragraphs written by one much more informed than I on the subject of religion, from an evolutionary pyschological viewpoint:

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The religious instinct is the central enabler of the Hegelian dynamic. The instinct has two barely separable components: a predisposition to embrace premises on faith when the dividends of mental frugality are expected to outpace those of thorough investigation, and a predisposition to embrace on faith only a premise promoted by someone whose authority is respected. This latter predisposition is adaptive in and of itself, because it tends to instill social consistency and cohesion, equipping the community to work effectively as a team. Thus is enabled the cult of specialization, and the whole of Hegelian epistemology: the mutual deceptions of Hegel's heralded bureaucracy (following inevitably from the division of intellectual labor), and the horrors of Idealism and Positivism.

Inevitably, the religious instinct - since it is a prima facie abridgement and violation of reason - becomes a vehicle for those intent on concentrating social control in their own hands. It cannot be overemphasized that the purpose of religions is control over the actions of people, achieved through control over the thoughts of people. Etymologically, ``religion'' derives from the Latin for ``to tie back'', evidencing its binding, constraining character.

The god concept - common to many though not all religions - is the ultimate organizational corruption. A god would have total authority with no accountability. The priests and potentates who cite god as the source of their authority similarly wield total authority with no accountability.

Practical religion is sociocognitive warfare. With this realization, a great deal of what is considered by Americans to be ``culture'' or ``political systems'' is seen to actually be religion. For example, though communism in the USSR was atheistic (denied ``belief in the existence of one God viewed as the creative source of man and the world who transcends yet is immanent in the world'' (from Webster)), it was obviously a religion. As one peruses the litany of establishment tactics in my introductory essay, the burrowing of religion into the American cultural landscape becomes clear. Many of the tactics squarely aim to subvert reason.

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That literary bundle of joy was from Daniel Pouzzner's Architecture of Modern Political Power, more specifically from the section on ancient history.  I do enjoy reading Pouzzner now and then; he's the self-appointed(and to him there's no other way) defender of reason and considers modern history to be a conflict between the power brokers and the innovators.  Specifically, that that those currently in control always do their best to stifle innovation that would undoubtably benefit the entire human race, because that innovation might have a diminishing effect on their power over others.  Oh, and to steer this post back to the topic; there is a lengthy accounting of the lies (or conspicuous lack thereof) in almost every religious system on his ancient history page, including 2-3 differing schools of buddhism.