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Aya> Can you love John and his questions? I ask because you said "Of course he doesn't get it." while John showed his understanding almost an hour before you said he isn't capable of understanding.

Moralman> I personally know people who consume mushroom potions and value the Scriptures. So people who consume mushroom potions do not necessarily devalue the Bible or christianity. You may have heard about those south american churches who use ayahuasca (not a mushroom by the way) as a sacrament in their holy services while singing simple songs and hymns concerning Jesus, Mary and God.

Dear Friends
kind regards
I would like to respond to the following people.
Ayahuasca.........
America is filled with Evangelical Christians who are very fundamentalist.
Evangelical Christianity has a few big flaws and its biggest flaw is its belief in an extreme version of Zionism.
An overview of the heresy of Evangelical Christianity and its support of Zionism is at the following weblink.
1. http://www.fixedearth.com
I think that a proper American government should be unbiased where the middle East is concerned.
I think that the Jews and Arabs deserve a state but there are factions in both Israel and Palistine that are very much against the other even existing.
I love homosexuals enough to want them to be cured of their homosexuality.
After the changes in 2012 we may be re-instated into a 12 strand DNA Light body(resurrected body) of perfection.
The righteous will be their higher selfs-Christs just as Jesus himself was.
Thats the meaning of the word ascension or as the Christians say-rapture.
Hopefully gays and lesbians will also ascend if God allows it and they will be cured of what they suffer from.
However homosexuals and their supporters probably won't ascend since they are scathing of righteousness in its truest sense.
Thats not to say that homosexuals are truely evil-I just don't consider homosexuality as a normality or Godly.
Homosexuality is an imbalanced Earthly instinct-there is nothing celestial or graceful about gaydom.
Once again I urge you to read the articles of Henry Makow PHD.
2. http://www.savethemales.ca
I used to be open minded where homosexuality was concerned but after meeting a few and being surrounded by them I take the view that homosexuals are bizarre.
Indeed they are basically act like women in a mans body-There is something wrong with them and I am not taking that view back to satisfy you or anyone else.
I really believe that society has been duped into accepting homosexuality as normality when it clearly isn't.
As far as Satan and the Illuminati are concerned.........I don't love them and the sooner the Devil and his minions die the better.
Universal oneness or the body of Christ as the Christians call it has some exclusions.
Bumblebee.........
Part of the reason why I came on this forum was because I am open minded and open to any information.
I don't know enough about Ayahuasca to comment accept that I read Ickes "tales from the timeloop" book earlier this year.
I cannot comment further on this subject untill I do some valid research on it which I haven't done thus far.
yours thankfully
John

Dear Neomatrix
kind regards
Indeed you can love someone without loving the wrong that they do.
Christianity has a motto..........love the sinner not the sin.
I don't state that homosexuality is an evil(promotion of it is though) if two men make the decision to have sex with each other..........its the same as a person chain smoking or taking drugs-it only harms the people who are doing it.
The Higher self is when a Christian or anyone else is perfected.
Jesus Christ was perfected and ascended-he was resurrected.
The Christians might not use the words but the meanings are the same.
God gives free will.........I think that the creator expects us to use free will wisely, justly and morally.
Henry Makow PHD is a hero as far as I am concerned-he shines a light on a sinister agenda.
Homosexuality, feminism and lesbianism are imbalances and Makow rightly points that out whilst stating that the Illuminati uses these three instruements to undermine family values.
A man should be a man and a woman should be a woman.
If a man feels like a woman and a woman feels like a man then there is a fault in creation.
In a perfect World the physical and spiritual are compatible with each other.........why do you think that after 2012 the righteous shall be resurrected into a 12 strand DNA body of Light?
Normality is morality and morality is endorsed by God and nature.
God did create good and evil but just because he created good and evil doesn't mean that they are the same.........the Kelloggs company makes all sorts of different cerials-or can't you tell the difference between rice crispies and co-co pops?
Universal oneness by your definition is incompatable with logic.
It is based on the assumption that every Soul that God makes is equal.
Again I state the obvious.........Is Jesus Christs soul the same as the soul of the Illuminati henchmen?
If the Illuminati is advanced and have secret knowledge about human origin(according to David Icke) why do they rape and ravage the World?
If they know that they are apart of universal oneness why do they kill, humiliate and
destroy people?
I have learned certain things on this forum but there is still much to learn.
yours thankfully
John

That is hands-down the funniest thing anyone has ever said in this forum. Who needs jokes when we have Moralman? God bless you John.

Just one question for you though: Why, in your opinion, did God create evil?

Hold the phone!   My God!!!   Lyra actually agrees with something Moralman is saying!!!   ahhhhh!     And Neo, I have to admit it, but I'm actually disagreeing with some things you said.   Anyway, I was trying to stay away from this thread but it's taken a really interesting turn, lots of juicy topics coming up here. 

In a condensed form, here's what I agree / disagree with and why:

-  I agree with Moralman that there's an agenda of sorts in our present society by TPTB to undermine morals and the traditional family structure, as well as a push by Hollywood to heavily promote homosexuality in the mainstream media.   I've already elaborated heavily on this topic over in my "Feminism" Henry Makow thread, so I won't retread over old ground.  But I'm sure I caused a few grumbles around here with that thread.   But I have to make it clear that I'm not against homosexuals at all, nor do I share the views that MM does regarding them, I'm just acknowledging that there has been a huge push in the media towards heavily promoting the homosexual lifestyle.

I guess in the big scheme of things none of it matters, the family, morals, and all the rest.   Be as bad as you want to be, be as good as you want to be, it's all "just an expression of creation" or whatever, as it's been basically said by some here.   I have to ponder that a little more, see what I think about that. 

- I fully agree with the concept "Love the sinner, not the sin."   You CAN love somebody, but not necessarily the things they do.   We do this all the time.   Everybody here who has family that they're still in contact with and have a close relationship with ponder this for a moment.   Most will agree that they love their siblings, parents, grandparents, etc.  however, not necessarily some of the things they do, or the way they're living their life.  But ya still love 'em.   Come on.

-  Regarding "it only harms the people that are doing it" with homosexuality -  Moralman said this, Neo disagreed, and I say that Yes, sometimes, in fact oftentimes, this lifestyle DOES harm the ones partaking in it.   Absolutely.

-  And lastly, I happen to like Henry Makow.   To me, he's right about a lot of stuff.   He's nailed what's going on with Hollyweird and our current society.  Call me a prude, hey, whatever, I find that I'm appalled by what I see going on in our world today.  I totally agree with him that the American Woman has changed.  She's now typically a bitchy, ballbusting manipulator, not marriage material AT all.  Something's gone horribly wrong in our society, and guess who's the one suffering?   The kids.   But I've already gone over this extensively in my other thread, so again, won't re-tread over  old ground.   I will say this:   I used to snicker when I'd hear about guys who go to Europe and Russia to find a suitable wife.  Then, I researched the subject some more by linking to a guy's website that works to match American businessmen with eligible European / Russian women.   I read their perspective, about what they're unhappy about over here in America, read different tales of dating woe and what they've experienced with the women of today, and I found myself nodding my head by the time I was done.  I was like, Okay, I get it, I see your point of view, I can appreciate that.    So, I have to defend Makow, I like what he's saying.   

ANYway.......so, how 'bout that wrestling?????   

Dear Friends
kind regards
Neo-Matrix............
Love is righteousness...........are you stating that Jesus was wrong for condemning the Pharisee's?
I suppose Jesus was wrong for whipping the money lenders out of Gods house.
What a terrible thing for Jesus to do-after all aren't the money lenders apart of universal oneness?
Homosexuality is spiritually destructive-it is an imbalance.
Therefore I put it on the same level as drugs and tobacco.
The Higher self is the perfected Human and spiritual self-thats what Jesus Christ was and is and thats what he came for............to teach us to be like him.
I believe that Souls have a gender.
In fact in a discussion about Twin souls we earlier discussed that there is a male and female soul that through eternity is spiritually linked eternally.
God made the World and gave us free will to experience everything we could experience.
Obviously if there is a fault in creation the fault lies with those who abuse Gods freewill and Satan and his minions are responsible for that.
Your definition of Universal oneness is acceptable to a degree-no doubt all Souls were made by God.
However not all Souls please God almighthy the creator.
Is God going to put Jesus Christ and Joseph Stalin on the same pedestal?
In the sense of creation all Souls come from the same source but again its like a story of two men from Palistine............one may be a very honourable, peaceful man and another may be a shoe-bomber.
They may both be from Palistine but they are not the same-would you welcome the latter into your home for tea and biscuits on the assumption that on the basis on Universal oneness he is you and you are him?
I do understand how a person and can be unique and equal-if you are simply placing emphasis on source then yes your definition of universal oneness is correct but placing emphasis on the beginning source isn't enough.
Jesus Christ and Adolf Hitler may have come from the same source in the beginning but how will history or the future ever make them compatible comparatively?
Ayahuasca............
I am glad that you found my comments amusing.
God created freewill and from freewill evil through ignorance and human flesh became a reality.
Also I go along with the biblical idea that Satan tests every human soul to see if they are going to be Gods representatives or the Devils minions.
Evil in itself whilst important isn't the be all and end all as it is a finite source..........it is shunning and fighting the forces and ultimate force of evil that counts.
Bumblebee...........
We will have to agree to disagree on the articles of Henry Makow PHD however I'd be delighted to see your rebuttal against his articles.
In my view Henry Makow PHD is a genius.
Of course I am keen on Moralism..........why do you think that I try to be a Moralman?
As far as Western women are concerned I think that Henry Makow PHD is probably right to a degree.
That doesn't make Western women any lesser than any other type of woman but with the poisonous doctrine of feminism being used to hypnotise Western women into getting careers rather than being housewives-no wonder Makow recommends an alternative.
Everyone loves music yet I consider Hulk Hogan a better role model than all of the Spice girls combined.
Hulk Hogan taught children to train, say their prayers and eat their vitamins-he did what was pleasing to God.
The spice girls encouraged "girl power" which probably meant that women should become men and not be Mothers and housewives.
Jesus Christ instructs us to love our enemies yet the same Bible states that a day will come when evil will disappeare and a New heaven and Earth will be formed.........I suppose Jesus loves evil enough to let it go and die in the end.
Homosexuals and lesbians destroy any society that they live in-they try and dominate the atmosphere and it is due to such people that we see such an overflow of immorality in society.
One thing that I also find irritating is how women love gays.
Straight women who have boyfriends are fascinated with homosexuals and thats purely on the basis that they act like women.
I consider this hypocrisy.........gaydom = soddom.
It is an imbalancing and confusing aspect to society that angers civilised society.
I still think that the World Wrestling Federation should live on after 2012.........homosexuality on the other hand should be a forgotten memory.
yours thankfully
John