what does 2012 mean? (Page 1 of 2)

Here, read this http://www.eaglesdisobey.net/wm_corner.htm

While I do see why the idea of parallel universes being individually created is an appealing thought, I on the other hand see how it can be used to detract from humanity's capabilities to effectively reason and to speak up agaisn't the ills of this world, the corruption, the manipulation. If one thinks they're going to be beamed off, why should one worry about what's going around them? It's a diversionary method created by highly manipulative forces to make us effectively "give up", to lure us into complacency so their agenda can reach it's ends, however temporary their reign may hold. Hitler's reign lasted only 17 years; this, from a historical aspect, is a small sliver of recorded history, yet  the horrors that were unleashed upon the world had lasting consequences that carry on to this day. And it could've been stopped by the German people, yet they were the ones who brought that fate upon themselves. Sure, the Third Reich blew over like all forces forged upon the paradigm of violence and manipulation, but at what cost?

All that is necessary for this to happen to us is to give up, or have unquestioning loyalty towards an individual who you feel holds the key to your salvation. There is a great potential for humanity, after a particularly brutal event, to be lured by the "spiritual teachings" of some "maitreya", some "Christed" being, who will not serve the heavens nor this world, but will be the host of a force far more sinister that will deceive countless men and women throughout our glorious Earth.

We must wake up. I'm not saying ascension is never going to happen, but to tell you my personal perspective, it does not feel near. Humanity is not nearly ready for this outright transformation; there are things we must work out. One of these tasks is to unite the enormous degrees of soul splits throughout history, the various lifetimes scattered throughout time, past and present, we are living simultaneously as we speak. Many are stuck, and you cannot leave without all your luggage. Robert Monroe described this great unification being complete in the 35th century, when there will be a global blastoff. If this is your final lifetime, then all the power to you. But for most, we're coming back, and we will have to live with whatever conditions and situations we have unleashed in our past lives, that will come to affect us in our future world.

Given this reality for most, what would be worse than to put your life on hold, your abilities of discernment on standby, and your mind in a passive state? Who would benefit from this, other than the forces that seek to undermine the true human potential?

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle." -Edmund Burke.  In other words, all that is necessary for evil to win is for good people to do nothing.

check this out--its a possibility, crosses many threads,...and cheaper than buying the book, apparently this is the crux behind LKJ's end of the world scenario (i dont mean to tout it/her), but i keep constantly running into this today, a ton of C stuff continues to pop up. its so damn synchronistic and lot of stuff on here at NR has been lately--so look at this

Q: (L) Also, there was a supernova that became the Crab
   Nebula, which occurred 5,000 years ago, yet was not seen
   on earth, which was 900 years ago, which happens to be
   exactly the time period I have been looking at as having
   been a turning point where seeds were planted that are now
   bearing fruit.  Can you tell us if this supernova that was  (SEEDS?  what seeds?) 
   seen 900 years ago, were there effects from the Supernova
   that contributed to this state of affairs at the
   culmination of the Dark Ages, the creation of the Templars (and everybody STOLE their stuff, =the GOOD guys)
   and so forth.  What were the effects of this supernova
   that was seen 900 years ago?

A: Excitation of base liquid molecules.  (For eventual DNA crystallization?)
Q: (L) Did this have a physiological effect, or genetic, DNA effect on people?  (Will it do it again, soon?)
A: Slight.
Q: (L) What were the pronounced effects that one would have
   been able to note.  That is microscopic...  (SO its in the genes, in the cells, cells have memory, genetic karma)
A: Growth.  (Redemption, maybe by reincarnation even)
Q: (L) Growth in what sense?  Growth and change in the size
   of people?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Growth in a psychological or mental sense?
A: Close.
Q: (L) What kind of growth specifically?  (Overpopulation, pods, unsoulled beings, fakes, a big mess)
A: Both.
Q: (L) You mentioned the importance of the Horsehead Nebula
   in relation to the symbol of the Knight.  What is the
   significance of the Horsehead Nebula?
A: Keep up your search, as you are near.
Q: (L) What would be the effect of cosmic rays emitted by a  (Veilakovsky)
   supernova that is in some proximity to the earth on the
   human body?  (So if it happens every 13,000+ yrs then here we go, again=the new human, 2012, the ascension)
A: Genetic splice of strand.  (CHANGING DNA, again?, also the tampering with our original, etc)
Q: (A) Now this supernova that is supposed to explode soon,
   will it be soon in the sense of our SEEING it, that is the arrival of the light from this, or soon in the instantaneous sense?
A: Optically.
Q: (L) So, this supernova must have already occurred?  (Repeated cycles of destruction, which r necessary)
A: Yes.
Q: (A) But, if it already occurred, then this means that the
   instantaneous effects have already been felt, even if it
   was lesser than the optical effects.  It must have been
   recorded by anomalous changes in genes? (L Is that true?
A: Close.
Q: (L) So what, in the records, should we be looking for?  (Depends on which "records", u'd have to read so many and we HAVE) n now this is out of sequence but...
A: Sign of struggle out of sequence with pre-ordained
   activities of Royal Blood Lines. (Blue Blood vs?, the set-up, the bankers, the control of the world)
Q: (L) In other words, the usurpation of the blood lines?  (pre-adamic man vs? OP's, i swear its IN THERE ---who sseeded who and why?  THIS IS the biggest key to it "all" IMO, it SOURCES from this & its gonna go back to this, I can FEEL IT, cloning, hybrids, religions and men, )
A: Close. You have, on occasion, related this to DNA changes.  Is it that certain individuals are connected to other densities through the  (Star children, feeling difft than everybody else=spiritual immunity to lies and deception, warriors on a mission, shamans, healers, dreamers, wanderers, treehuggers, druids, illustrators, writers, patriots, magical mongooses, lonos, heretics, mystics, i leave none of us out!!! here)
windows of the stars in certain constellations, and the
clues are found in the location of the stars in the
figures of the constellations relating to the areas of the
body where pockets in the etheric field are points of
activation of DNA, and that these relate to certain pains
and discomforts?   (Remembering stuff--"its in the genes", illnesses, disorders=from old issues, memories, lives)

Q: Are the body pains in these areas related?
A: To...?
Q: Obviously this is a big one... it relates directly to the
   crossed shin bones, the skull, the shoulderblades, knees,
   elbows and a lot of other symbology... the exposed breast
   of the Masonic initiate.   (The KT, and those darn masons again, famous grandfather was a mason)

The original "Zaphon" is another bizzare root word, ZPN, which adds up to
137, the number of the word received, or kabalah, in Hebrew. The orginal  (Not gonna get away from the Jews)
meaning was the place, or state of mind where the knowledge of the universe
could be found. Its coruption into Zion represents the control trip of the
priesthood. Finally its use by the Priory of Sion, which can be spelled SN,
equals 110, or the end of days in Hebrew, signals their understanding of
the esoteric significance.  He who controls the Matrix of reality, controls reality. The hidden city is
really Zaphon, where we realize who we are in the universe.  (I always say its the evil priests=from the beginning of time=The Nine, even tho they were Lamas, reincarnated atlantean priests, then egyptian priests, and now--u now, and if that isnt clear than i dont know what is!=Rome, vatican, white house, monarchies, ETC)

A: Lord of Serpent promises its followers infinite power  (Lucifer, the Director of Marketing)
  which they must seek infinite knowledge to gain, for which
  they pledge allegiance infinitely for, which they possess
  for all eternity, so long as they find infinite wisdom,
  for which they search for all infinity.  (As well as the craving for power and security which they cant get enuf of, druids and bhang's last posts)

Q: (L) Well, that is a round robin... a circle you can't get
out of!  (SEEEEE!!!???, theocracy, the War in Heaven book, reincarnating traps souls, possibly de-evolutinizes,? evil traps, karma skews, chakras remember and get stuck,  dont go to the light? go to the light?)

A: And therein you have the deception!  Remember, those who
   seek to serve self with supreme power, are doomed only to
   serve others who seek to serve self, and can only see that
   which they want to see.  (STO vs STS, stunted spiritual growth, pods CAN only see what they wanna see)

Abraham received this insight from the Elion, the God Most High, or the  (Abraham= A BRAHMIN, my plumber mentor taught me that, Yahweh, Jehovah. aliens, tricks by the overlords)

ion/aeon of the El. The place where he made this covenant was named Zion to  (ION? molecule, EL=the sun, lord, king)

indicate the galactic nature of the alignment. The intersection of Elion,
the Draco/Lesser Mag. Cloud axis, and the galactic central axis creates  (Reptilians=big stakeholders in all this)
"time." Within this framework, the function of 'time" is played out
according to the IHVH pattern. This is simply the elemental alignment of (JC is in here=INRI)
fixed signs in the pattern Fire/Leo, Earth/Taurus, Air/Aquarius and
Water/Scorpio. This pattern fell on the spring equinox roughly 13,000 years (The Mayan Calendar?)

ago, and is now aligning itself with the fall equinox to repeat the  (Astronomy and the placement of the constellations, Astrology, Signs, and Archetypes, gods and goddesses, and god heads)
pattern.  As an historian, I can think of a dozen time periods that seem to have
inexplicable continuity glitches.  (Lyra's time glitches, reality matrix shifts, high weirdness)
The worst, in my opinion, is the French Revolution, which seemed to have an extraordinarily large number of
time-spooks pulling strings in the background. The key to all of this seems
to be the time we are in at the moment, as Nostradamus implied, and the
results of this kind of manipulation are approaching critical. What we were (Terrance M, gregg braden & ZERO POINT)
trying to say in our book, without coming out and saying it, is that the

end of the world is a manipulated psycho-drama designed to detract from the  (THIS IS IT!)
spiritual significance of the cosmic moment. I haven't ruled out the
possibility that time travel and reality manipulation are involved. I just
don't know who's manipulating whom.  (I dont think that matters now, after all this, who even cares anymore?)

Which brings us to the question of synchronicity. We were very careful not  (HOW SYNCHRONOUS!, im freaked!)
to give more meaning to any synchronous event than it deserved.   (Well, im gonna anyway)
Synchronicity seems, in general, to be a field effect of sentience.  (Well, thats good to know, advanced SOULS see connections repeatedly, its the CONSISTENCY of all these cross refernced areas from UNRELATED sources)

Whatever carries the deepest significance will be manifest in your field of
awareness.   (Yes, we said that, we were only dreaming it? yet we FOCUS on this stuff & seek each other out to do so, CYOR, co-creating, were all secretly gods, in their image, who is THEY?)

well, that EXPLAINS everything then...the whole enchilada, my hypothesis by cut and paste.  the world acc to zenden and i finally got this off my chest.  and it all started because i saw those damn little greys at the foot of my bed when i was 8, or so.  i searched and searched and i found montalk, and u guys, and im done now.

i looked and looked and couldnt find that direct quote? up there?  is that up there or inferred?

believe me i would never say were all in the same reality, and realize it.  most of all that up there is from LKJ and the C's as she was memoing/emailing vicent bridges.  it was just some of her work and quotes from the C's compiled by me.  and the thesis of her book, which id never seen the end of before, that SHE says that thru her work, she THINKS (not me but it is an illuatration here of what might be happening as a mere possibility--altho beats me, i couldnt prove a thing and wouldnt strive to even do so, i dont even care about proving stuff.  some stuff cant be proved and measurements to do so r impossibly impossible, and would need to be as etheral).  is that theyll have a war while some people are shifting or some cosmic event will occur SIMULTANEOUSLY.

so, it will look SHE SAYS, like its one event in the eyes/perception of some. when its really 2 distinct events, with the possibility of one being covered up?  or shaded by the other, depending i guess, which side of the fence one's on at the time.  if anybody's even here then.  phew.

no, id never say wwere all in the same reality, and frankly,  i was just throwing stuff around up there, and trying to make connections.   well, overall, good to know, that its "thicker"...which id venture to say is "help" from within and out, maybe.  either way im ALL FOR IT.

lyra--im a total retard on here and im in over my head with my posting probs.  i have to learn to do things right.  im a terrible quandry with it. im losin it!!!  so thank u much for ur advice, which i need to adhere to myself.  yes that wouldve made things clearer. and i meant to tell montalk the other day too, how that new qucik post box is better, but cant use it right yet. and that it is appreciated, its a nice new improved one.  thank u.  i must use the quote thing more accurately too.  i think i need soem MEDS of some sort.  when all else fails--use chemicals?  no, better to sleep maybe.  thank u.

mongoose--so well put and short yet covered the dilemma.  my totally favorite subject.  whats it gonna be?  wake up on another plane that day? (2007 vs  2012-13) after 3 days of darkness, a magnetic pole shift, a faked out holographic rapture?  a comet?  a nibiruan impact vs landing?  an alien invasion?,  (they say theyre gonna "help"  either way--cuz we will be "ready" then?), leave with a body this time they say, be 33 on the other side, or ya get to be ur fav archetype (and what ill do with THAT!!!), or the/a war occurs and the planet reaches annihilation zero point.  most r killed, some ascend?, some survivors exist in pockets.  (ive read mundane stuff such as to stay away from the windows nevertheless, for real, and a few other nebulous things that r so of ? account.  get ur mind/soul "right" so u will be gone, keep working on urself, etc, align ur DNA, remain open to ?, cleanse ur chakras, recoup ur past, finish ur unfinished business (and thats a feat in itself). 

some stay to maybe help design the "new earth" that may emerge and were really the true leadership destined to do so?  "the meek shall inherit the earth"?--(theres alot on that as u know, and i thot i had that down a cpl of times, but dont know now other than it could be the difference between op's, ensouled adamaic vs pre-adamic again staying or leaving, and those that have "corrected" themselves by self-work and changed their own DNA/karma/script/vibes? i even thot at one time it was the sons of baal /belial/vs those of the law of one. and then i read the other day that that's an insert, and all contrived, and i thot there were clues in there but now? and i was really into that for awhile, clues, clues, clues...

so then (newer lately in my mind) its gonna shift DURING a war maybe--and some die in the war while others r shifting? and it all gets criss-crossed? man, and thats maybe planned, what a rigged evil deal.  rotten to the core aint it?   how so totally ROTTEN, stink to the core of cores, HATRED so deep. it is unfathomable.  what an unreal way to live/feel.  who and why and how could something hate that bad.  the malevolence is stunning, and its over eons of time from the human eye. with their contrived war, it captures some souls and sticks em here or on a "terra" somewhere to repopulate, and so forth.  that story of slavery and bondage, and ignorance, yet fire to fight it must end here then somehow,, those damn bad guys just keep playing this. as its an old 3d game thats so played out.  i say BORING. they seem to like that story, and is that behind what theyre trying to do again, geez, dont they have any new storylines? and for that matter, dont I? gawd. i wanna leave just to get that over with and behind me. do they ever evolutionize?  oh my god, the resistance is incredible.  then ya got all the frickin prophesies (yawn) reaching culmination on purpose, is it good or bad? so the temple mount is re-built, sacrifice is back on.  the antichrist is having a hayday, or before that survivors re-build the world in the midst of mad-max anarchy (and ive thot lots of ppl these have the look of those MAD MAX characters, so it would really be interesting, incl ME!!!==have u noticed a lot of ppl look sorta like that in dress/style?  kinda neat, the influences. scripted? or drawn to it like in a story ur playing out to entertain urself with even.   its sorta cool to watch that, even the thread with the kids wearing symbols, and looking goth and stuff, vs more streamlined yet hip these days).

will we/i leave or will we/i stay?  its all in ruins and were/im stuck, and will i be of the clean-up crew again?  in the role of an old crone with scraggly dreads, and torn rotting clothing, mixing potions, and delivering the babies of the survivors, telling stories to keep the "past" alive. complaining about what shoulda been done, how it coulda been changed, what we better do the next time.   i thot i came in that way, and here it is again?  nah--need another 5 act play outta here on this one, its the next BIG story. so then stock up? or not?  ok then, the impetus to prepare and how mad one will be at oneself for not having enuf toilet paper or supplies, i used to do this all the time.  hoard or dont hoard?  hoarders will be reported they say.  ive read all that is a scare tactic and "u will have everything u need so quit worrying" ---but what if?  should be prepared.  then  u wonder am i in a safe place, should i have moved?  will i be stuck leading around a bunch of pods, in a destroyed neighborhood where i gotta save everybody from their physical injuries?  is that why i am medical this time?  but i always was i think/remember.  what to do as the time approaches. be forced into the "mark" by then, get put in a camp for running my big mouth, be a rebel burned at the stake again? or bypass that scenario all together.  then i laugh as i hum or sing that Clash song "should i stay or should i go?" thank god for humor.  its so cleansing and clean.

its a crack up by then, and im laughing and feel better as its probably those alternate realities, and we have so studied that and done our scholarly work to reach that conclusion, in agreement possibly with the formal writers of such.  as we read above here, we may already have "done" it, or?, or as i suspect, an entirely NEW/concept may be flourishing if NOT, and is in the works, something so not planned, or gleaned out easily from all our research.  its so new=its still in the works,  oh my god.  and with so much of everything being such a huge lie, cuz almost everything else has been, in this morassed illusion, maybe the next deal, is so un-knowable or such a huge different enterprise, that there really r few clues=its the biggest SURPRISE we've ever seen, and all trails/roads do not lead to or from rome.  hmmmm.  its all been so WIZARD OF OZ.

as far as "we changing our ways"--and  have been purposefully reading (again) lately, for clues/keys, on the subject of those ppl that kept being shown all those scenes of destruction by the greys, and have been given the "warnings"--and that its just one person who's supposed to change any of the pollution, the destruction of forests, on and on, when theyre in no position whatsoever to do shit, other than to tell everybody that the greys said destruction destruction "unless u ppl change ur ways".  so its back to having guilt then, on using trees for toilet paper.  ur damned if u do or damned if u dont, all the guilt that the worlds on her last legs. like these ppl or any of us, r the CEO's of major companies who can then turn the tide for the ways to be changed on a grand scale. 

i dont know what to say on that other than LOVE (sounds so corny and ridiculous) being the answer and to have it so deep and so profoundly for one's fellow man, for every half breed, for every species of 'em, for every single OP, for even the rotten MIB, for every dim-witted pod, for every idiotic creation of/by the reps. even chucacabras, chimaras/centaurs, spooks; even greys-- to hold no racist/species/nationalistic/souled vs unsouled bias/and fear of anymore.  end all OLD OLD ancient distaste for all.  be so damn big and huge with that, theres no turning back.  its so NEW and clean, to be taken in and given out that, despite all the crap we see and go thru everyday, and remember and harbor resentments for over centuries, that now were back to the one person /each person deal wherein just one soul, yet collectively then, all souls or whatever change course and save or lift or whatever in this sector of the universe.  He aint heavy--he's my brother kinda stuff.  oh my god.  talk about circles. or is just that my personal mythological full of archetype frickin STORY?  yet, i say IT ALL HAD TO START SOMEWHERE IN EACH OF US.  how it began, and thats pretty rotten , from what weve read.  slaves made from parts of clay and alien DNA. kept in bondage and chains, and they finally quit the game, get the hell OUTTA DODGE as lyra says, and from all those other existences we FIX this shit.  we COME from somewhere to play this out, in a ROLE, u have to admit it.  we LOOK certain ways, feel certain ways, and all have images of ourselves that we walk around in this time here.  its old old stuff yet developing, and yet being influenced by the future and the past simultaneously so this time, its done on a planetary scale, on a cosmic level so cool, even the EVILl ones are lifted from far far down below.  we even FREE our captors.  bless their hearts. we even grow em a heart, they never had one before.  its that pure, that goddam strong.

all thats left then is kiling time, come seh, come sah.  which we do here rather nicely, hanging out with each other, and trading/sharing our concepts.  we may be the very magicians that r supposed to do that, from within our minds, (screw the predators that "gave them to us"--screw em i say!) that will pave the way.  i feel its in there, in that last part.  we r the key.   and everything we think, feel, share, as we network, is gathering, all with excellent, clean, fabulous, gorgeous INTENT, while we spin and spin in this vortex of everyday life, we r consciously creating something somewhere that's never been ""done" like this before.  thats all we got, that beautiful intent.  the rest is just a story, but it took that to get here....love u all!!! happy halloween my friends

LOL. I was browsing the Steve Pavlina forums and found this regarding the 2012 shift.

http://www.stevepavlina.com/forums/erin … -2012.html

Well according to the Cassiopaean transcripts, at the time when Laura Knight began channeling these beings in 94' the Cassiopaeans states:

Q: (L) Will there be atomic war?
A: No.
Q: (L) Will there be a war in the sky with the aliens?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will it be between Orions and the Federation?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will it be visible on earth?
A: Oh, yes.
Q: (L) When will this be?
A: It has already started. Will intensify steadily.
Q: (L) Why are we not aware that it has already started?
A: It is disguised at this point as weather. It is still in other
dimensions. Will go to this one within 18 years. Anytime within this
period. The absolute time is not determinable as to exactly when. It
could be tomorrow or 18 years from now.
Q: (L) 18 years from now is 2012. Is there some special significance
to that time?
A: Yes.

So according to those statements alien ships are supposed to be arriving on earth around the time of 2012 but also:

Q: (L) Is this the cycle understood by the Mayans?
A: They understood partially.
Q: (L) Their calendar extends to 2012... is that accurate as to the time of the realm border change?
A: Close. Still indefinite as you measure time. Lizzies hoping to rule you in 4th density. Closer to 18 years.

Now from the start of these sessions of 94, 18 years is apparently 2012, and these "ships" that are supposed to be arriving on earth are riding via a "wave". In which case im not sure if this is the same wave noted by the C's that will hit the Earth and transform it into a 4th density realm. 

I believe depending on the individual if they learn all of their required "lessons" for this level of density, 3rd, the transference into 4th is apparently the next step.  BUT depending on the individuals energetic frequency (knowledge and awareness raises this) this may determine the point in space/time they make their transition.  Also, the individuals who are aware of this, and raise this frequency high enough to resonate with this oncoming wave are able to "anchor" a conduit in space/time that will allow them to transcend beings of their choice.

Now its hard to say if any of this stuff is how it is, or is how it is going to happen, but it is my understanding that 4th density is a reality shaped by your perception. So when this wave arrives and transforms the earth into a 4th density realm people may not be aware of this transcendence.  Since perception will shape your existing reality, if people (which there most likely will be) aren't open, un-aware of the fact they made a transcendence they will continue to live in a linear perspective and be completely un-aware of anything that may have happened.

But for those who are aware, should be able to free them-selves from the existing reality and continue to exist in a reality of their choice hence "spontaneous combustion"

If you haven't seen it already the Cassiopaean site if very interesting www.cassiopaea.org