John Titor (Page 1 of 3)

Time Travel! I heard about Titor several months ago. Didn't see enough on him to decide. Now I'm trying to find more about a man who made hundreds of millions in the stock market, who was arrested and convicted of insider trading, but who claimed to be a timetraveler. He wasn't connected to anyone on wall street, and profit from the buying and selling he did was way beyond anything insider trading could have done.

Here's the article from last year:    http://tv.yahoo.com/news/wwn/20030319/104808600007.html                                                I'll look for more on him, but if he's who he says he is, he's probably so isolated, they feed him with a slingshot. and here's the "truth":       http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/insider.htm         It brings up a question. If it's in Weekly World News, is it necessarily untrue? I remember a TV series a few years ago that combined a Men In Black (aliens on earth) concept with a WWN newsroom setting. The irony being that the most wacked-out news was actual fact. Truth always was stranger than fiction. Or Ruth is stranger than Richard. One of those.

Hey Abra! I had just been thinking "I wonder what happened to Abrashea? I wish she would post something!" I wondered if you were "time traveling" as it were.

Here's a thought.....................

When you have a premonition, and then the event happens exactly as you forsaw, what does that say about the nature of the future?

It means it's already happened.   It's not just a probability, it's actually "out there."   For you to be able to see it means it already exists.  I've had a few premonitions over the years, saw things that came to pass verbatim of what I saw in my mind.  When I was 17 I stopped and thought about that, and what the implications were.  I realized the future is already "out there"......... one version of it anyway.   If you can forsee it, it's already happened.   Now............you can decide to make different choices when faced with that fork in the road moment when your premonition is now happening in front of you.   You can choose a different future.   Which led to my other realization when I was in my early 20's:    Parellel timelines.   I had no knowledge of Quantum Physics at the time, but I figured out one basic concept of it which involves multiple probable timeline futures.  For every choice you make, the choice you DIDN'T make has to still be out there.    Say you have a premonition, you forsee an event, and when the event finally comes to pass and you choose to do something different and choose a different path, where does that "other version" of the future go??   For you to have seen it means it's already happened, right?  It can't just.......disappear, right???

Parallel timelines! 

Anyway, just some thoughts.  I think the parallel timelines thing should be a whole thread in itself, so maybe I'll start a thread about it later, because it's interesting stuff.  I've had personal experiences of glimpsing flashes from my other parallel realities.     I really don't know how it all works, to be honest.    I don't know if whether you choose one future over another if the other one still physically exists someplace else, which means there are literally, endless versions of ourselves out there, or whether that other future "collapses."  I don't know how time travel can fit into that, but it would be cool to hear the input of anybody on the forum who does know and understand this stuff.

And about John Titor himself.............I'd read over his website several months ago from another messageboard forum, and my conclusion was that he's bunk.   I think it was an experiment to see how people would react, see what they'd say, and also, to instill fear and other stuff into our mindsets.

However, he did make several good points regarding the state of our population during this time period, calling us "civically ignorant sheep", and that we turn a blind eye to the suffering of humanity around us, among other things.   It may rub some people the wrong way, but he's right, whoever he is.   Our general population is materialistic, "me me me!" oriented, asleep, brainwashed, and doesn't care about what's happening to this country, our society, or the world.

A few weeks ago I was pondering the idea of time and I started seeing some kind of pacman-like game (don't ask me how, I have no idea), except that every time "pacman" chose a direction within the labyrinth, he split himself. After a while I could see hundreds of "pacmans" all over the place, but they kept on all going in the same direction and they finally started to merge again until they reached the end point and became One again.

lyra,

I just want to point out that johntitor.com is not "his" site - its a site that was made by people who were interested in his comments that he made nearly 4 years ago now...

I have posted some quotes from him in the past - the thing about him being a time traveller is not nearly as important as the social commentary and warnings he stated...

he had said some interesting things specifically about this year and the upcoming elections.

Whomever he was the comments he made are rather haunting when you think that they were made 4 years ago... if it was a "hoax" and it was some people just making shit up - they were rather astute in their observations.

I personally believe in the ability to travel through time - although I have no ideas on the mechanisms for accomplishing it.

Aaron…I read the article, and it is truly mind boggling how both these people just come up missing…right after they say they are going back to the future--and nothing can trace them! But then I wonder two things, and please tell me if I am a little off the wall here, this is seriously how I am thinking.
My first thought it the human may not be here, but what about the machine? Physically there is no way possible the machine could disappear with him; from what these “time travelers“? are saying they step into the machine, correct me if I am wrong…then “warp“? the future.
Secondly what if this is just complete bogus altogether. What if this is just another way for the gov’t or whoever is trying to manipulate an control us like sheep to entertain us and get us thinking off the wall things. Maybe it’s trick *squints eyes all evil* and maybe it’ll keep us busy pondering on this subject just long enough to make a sly moving further disclosing some…secret plan…or thought…we shouldn’t no about. If what I just said made perfect sense you have a higher IQ then me. Well at least it made sense when I initially started thinking about it. Hmmm…or what if these people are just in a big dream…but yet…they come up missing. To hard for me to figure out.

Lyra I wrote that before reading your comment.
You bring up wonderful points. I never thought of that. I have not studied quantum physics so forgive me if this sounds rather…dulcet, but are you saying we as beings live in a state such as a “dream world“? would be? Your first paragraph REALLY made me think. I have premonitions weekly, I am serious. Usually it’s dream, but sometimes…sometimes I find myself face to face with something and just “remember“? it…but cant remember I dreamed it, I just remember it. Like I don’t know where it came from. What you wrote really might put a glimps into the mentalities of those who time travel. Very interesting stuff.

I personally am neutral in saying he was or was not bogus. Its really just makes you think though. How could he predict so many true things, or were they premonitions he turned into something way more than that, and where, why, and HOW did he dissappear? Why doesn’t he have any records, other than the fact he was a mathmetician or professor (I think I remember reading that but will need to read more up on this. Just fascinating, I find it, how you all have replied back to this. It really is helpful when others put there two cents in.

Lyra--for your second response. Do you have any links you can direct me talking about this draft? What makes you feel females will be involved this time around. We had a discussion about this over at IH but everyone was certain it would be for males only…
Read they are sending out 15k more troops…I can definitely see a draft happening, seeing the foreshadows that are happening now.

Ok off topic a little…Hey Sedna! Long time no talk, LOL. Just got swapped up in life, in love…met someone who knocked me off my pedestal and showed me the mistakes I made…but hey, we all learn from our mistakes…most of the time…and it’s good to be whipped back in shape! Any who I’m back for good! LOL
And its good to be back.