Topic: Wow.. The ease of mind programing

I hope this isnt on here already, but this guy derren browne does an experiment where he tries to get 4 people with "normal" lives to rob a armored car.  Very interesting if you have some time to kill.

http://www.ryoni.com/news/135/ARTICLE/1 … 01-16.html

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I thoroughly enjoyed it Capitan.

Thanks

3 (edited by Ayahuasca 2006-02-05 09:00:55)

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Yeah this is good stuff. I've written about Derren Brown a few times in the past and I saw this program when it was first shown on British tv several weeks ago. I intended to write about it after I watched it but forgot about it for some reason.

I strongly recommend everyone watch this show. What Derren can do is absolutely incredible but the implications are quite scary really. If he can achieve all this by simply using highly subtle suggestions and triggers it makes you wonder what TPTB are capable of with all their technology etc.

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Ayahuasca wrote:

I strongly recommend everyone watch this show. What Derren can do is absolutely incredible but the implications are quite scary really. If he can achieve all this by simply using highly subtle suggestions and triggers it makes you wonder what TPTB are capable of with all their technology etc.

Aya,

The scariest part is that out 13 delegates he chooses 4 (30% of the subjects) and out of those four he is able to influence 3 of them (75% of the selected) into robbing an armored car.   Sometimes I wonder about those teenagers in the US that wake up one morning grab a few guns and shoot several kids in school.  The same applies to postal workers.  Are these people being targeted by a certain group?  One must conclude that the answer is yes because it does not seem random.    Teenagers and postal workers.......Why not miners, engineers, accountants, etc... ?  I think the manipulators want us to know they can do it by influencing specific groups in our society.

Regards

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Yea, great video clip.

I agree with the implications being scary, while I was watching I felt quite disturbed and saw the emotions that the people were going through, especially with that experiement with shocking. 

If that can happen in that scenario, what does television and other influences in our everyday lives do?

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Great show.  What amazes me though; is that apparently (at least from what little they said) the people that performed the heist didn't really learn anything from it.  "It was a positive experience", "I feel I can do anything".

Not exactly the reaction I would imagine someone would have after realising what their personality is like.  Yes they can blame Darren, but ultimatly they had to have been highly suggestable to have gone through with it.  Had it been me, at the very least I would hope that I would question my being as to why I did it...rather than thinking about how good I feel about the whole "positive" experience...

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I wonder if...If somebody could so easily convince a group of people to do "wrong" (commit crime or act selfishly at the expense of others), could a person as easily convince a group of people to do good?  Would it be harder to convince four people to empty their wallets out for a struggling young couple who is living paycheck to paycheck? 

Once, a couple of years ago as an experiment, I approached a lady on the street and offered her $20.  She wasn't homeless, but a regular blue-collar worker on her way somewhere.  It took me about two minutes to convince her to take it.  She was both defensive and suspicious: "Why would you do that?...Is it stolen?...Why give it to me?...Is there a catch?...What do you want?"  Finally she took it and thanked me.  I shrugged.  I wasn't doing it, particularly, to be nice--I just wondered how hard it would be to give away money in a situation where it wasn't being asked for.

Maybe I'll try convincing somebody to do good...Another experiment..."Hey, would you mind helping that old lady across the street?"--"Who?  Me?"--"Yeah, you.  How about it?"

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I enjoy your post dreamosis.

On a side note, does anyone know the name of the song that plays right before the final scenes, when Derren is giving his final thoughts?

Thanks. smile

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Natural Mystic:  Are you refering to "Everything in its right Place"  by Radiohead?  The last song during the credits sounds like sigur Ros.  Anyway radiohead has been one of my favorite bands for years, I just recently noticed some pretty deep subjects contained in there music.

"...But Nothing is Lost:" "Nothing lasts... nothing lasts. Everything is changing into something else. Nothing's wrong. Nothing is wrong. Everything is on track. William Blake said nothing is lost and I believe that we all move on." - Terrence McKenna - Shpongle - But Nothing Is Lost

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It may be that song, Ill check it out ASAP.  Thanks a bunch!

Now that you meantion Radiohead, I think Ill start listening to them the second time around...

Thanks again!

"Beyond the stars a new world awaits me now" - Wintersun